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The Missing Matter

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For more than 25 years, Sally Leydon has been waiting for answers about her missing mum, Marion Barter. In Season 2, Sal steps beyond her own story to speak with other families enduring the same unthinkable reality—the ambiguous loss of a loved one who has vanished without explanation. These are raw, intimate conversations about hope that refuses to die, grief that never finds closure, and the strength it takes to live in the in-between.  If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at info@themissingmatter.com  

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  1. Sandrine Matters...4,946 days missing

    EPISODE 1

    Sandrine Matters...4,946 days missing

    Welcome back to Season 3 of The Missing Matter. On Friday, July 13, 2012, 37-year-old mother of three Sandrine Jourdan vanished from a property in Caboolture, north of Brisbane. Fourteen years later, she has never been seen or heard from again. In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally is joined by Sandrine’s youngest daughter, Nikita, who shares what she remembers, the unanswered questions, and why her family refuses to accept the official narrative. Links to Sandrine pages   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1h 27m
  2. Mindy: The Super Sleuth Linked to Dear Rachelle

    EPISODE 2

    Mindy: The Super Sleuth Linked to Dear Rachelle

    In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with Mindy a relentless behind-the-scenes super sleuth who played a key role in supporting the Dear Rachelle journey. Mindy shares what it’s really like helping families through missing and unsolved cases and how quickly a disappearance can spiral when authorities can’t keep pace. From media pressure to urgent real-time searching, this is a powerful conversation about determination, frustration, and the fight to bring people home.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    58 min
  3. Anna Matters ... 914 days missing -Part 1

    EPISODE 3

    Anna Matters ... 914 days missing -Part 1

    ****Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of human remains being discovered. Listener discretion is advised. Anna Jenkins went to the dentist in Penang on December 13, 2017. Hours later, she called her husband in panic, saying someone was trying to kidnap her. Then the line went dead. Police dismissed it. Suggested she’d wandered off. Ignored key CCTV. Refused to investigate properly. While authorities looked the other way, Anna’s son Greg flew to Malaysia and began doing their job for them. For 914 days, Anna was missing. Over nearly three years, Greg travelled more than 120,000 kilometres across Malaysia, put up thousands of posters, interviewed anyone who would talk — and uncovered leads police never followed. Then an anonymous message arrived. In Part 1 of this powerful two-part series, Greg reveals the moment he realised the system had failed his mum — and the discovery that would change everything. Because Anna matters... See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    50 min
  4. Anna Matters ... 914 days missing - Part 2

    EPISODE 4

    Anna Matters ... 914 days missing - Part 2

    ****Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of human remains being discovered. Listener discretion is advised. When Anna Jenkins vanished in Penang in December 2017, her family believed authorities would act swiftly. They were wrong. In Part Two of this gripping conversation, Greg Jenkins takes us deeper into the relentless three-year search that followed his mother’s final phone call. From covering more than 120,000 kilometres across Malaysia to conducting thousands of interviews himself, Greg refused to accept silence as an answer. But what he eventually uncovered would raise even more disturbing questions. After an anonymous message led him to a construction site, Greg made a discovery that should have changed everything. Instead, he found himself battling roadblocks, denials and a system he believes prioritised power and profit over truth. Nearly 3,000 days on, Greg is still fighting. Because Anna matters... See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    45 min
  5. Leisl Matters... 4,925 days missing

    EPISODE 5

    Leisl Matters... 4,925 days missing

    When 23-year-old Leisl Smith left home on the New South Wales Central Coast on August 19, 2012, she told her father she’d be back by five to feed her animals. She never returned. In this episode of The Missing Matter, Leisl's mother, Sandi Harvey, shares the story of the quirky, animal-loving young woman who preferred horses and swimming pools to crowded rooms—and the day her life changed forever. What began as a routine meeting near Tuggerah Railway Station would become the start of a mystery that still haunts her family more than a decade later. Leisl was reported missing days after she vanished, and the investigation that followed would stretch across ten years, uncovering disturbing inconsistencies and ultimately leading police to charge the man they believed responsible. With the verdict sealed by law and Leisl still missing, Sandi has been left navigating a grief without resolution. Yet her determination to speak, to push for change and to bring Leisl home has never wavered. Because Leisl matters. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    1 hr

  6. EPISODE 6

    The Justice Tragic: Graeme Crowley’s Fight for the Forgotten

    Former police officer turned investigator Graeme Crowley has spent nearly fifty years chasing justice. What began as a career in policing eventually evolved into something unexpected, true-crime podcast investigations that challenge official narratives and reopen forgotten cases. In this episode of The Missing Matter, Sally sits down with Graeme to explore how podcasting has become a powerful tool for uncovering new evidence, questioning flawed investigations, and giving families answers when the system has failed them. From missing persons to suspicious suicides and wrongful convictions, Graeme explains how pulling apart a brief of evidence can reveal cracks in the story prosecutors once relied on. He shares how one podcast investigation helped push police to re-examine a suspicious death  ultimately leading to a murder arrest that may never have happened otherwise. Together, Sally and Graeme discuss: Why missing person cases often lose urgency within the system The hidden problems inside coronial investigations The emotional toll on families waiting decades for answers How podcasts are changing the landscape of criminal investigations For Graeme, this work isn’t a job — it’s a lifelong pursuit. Because sometimes the search for truth doesn’t begin with police. And sometimes the answers come from the people who refuse to stop asking questions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    55 min

  7. SEASON 3 TRAILER

    Season 3 returns - Monday Feb 9

    The Missing Matter is back.This Monday, February 9, we return with an all-new season. This season, Sally once again steps into the missing space having gentle, respectful conversations with those closest to the stories, giving voice to families, friends, and the people still searching for answers. Across the season we’ll dig deeper into the cases left unresolved, speak with voices you haven’t heard before, and follow the threads others have let go cold. Season 3 of The Missing Matter — coming Monday, February 9. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    2 min
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For more than 25 years, Sally Leydon has been waiting for answers about her missing mum, Marion Barter. In Season 2, Sal steps beyond her own story to speak with other families enduring the same unthinkable reality—the ambiguous loss of a loved one who has vanished without explanation. These are raw, intimate conversations about hope that refuses to die, grief that never finds closure, and the strength it takes to live in the in-between.  If you know someone who is dealing with a missing person, and would like to share your story, contact Sally at info@themissingmatter.com  

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