EcoEchoes

EcoEchoes

Hello, listeners! In 2024, a professor and a group of PhD students decided it was time to give research in health economics a voice (or set of voices!). Through this podcast, we aim to reveal the stories behind health economics research, create a resource for PhD students, academics, and anyone with an interest in this field, review key conferences and share tips that help us make our way in academia.

  1. 12 JAN

    Episode 34: Sanna Azzouz on Treating Ventricular Tachycardia Using Image-Guided Ablation

    This episode’s guest is Sanna Azzouz, PhD candidate in Health Technology Assessment at Erasmus University Rotterdam. She discusses her paper "Cost-effectiveness analysis of image-guided ablation versus conventional ablation in patients with recurrent ventricular tachycardia in France: results from the inEurHeart trial". The conversation covers how ventricular tachycardia develops after myocardial infarction, the clinical and economic trade-offs between different treatment options, and how AI-based imaging can reduce procedure time and costs without compromising patient outcomes. The episode also reflects on the challenges of measuring quality of life in severe cardiac conditions and translating short-term trial results into long-term health economic insights. In the final part, Sanna shares her experience working at the intersection of healthcare, economics, and AI, and offers personal advice for PhD students on growth, balance, and enjoying the research journey. Guest: Sanna Azzouz, PhD Candidate, Erasmus University Rotterdam Hosts: Karen Trujillo, Andrea De Palma Timestamps: (00:55) Sanna’s background and research focus (06:55) Ventricular tachycardia and treatment pathways (12:54) Image-guided vs conventional ablation and AI (15:45) The InHeart trial and key findings (23:00) Quality of life, uncertainty, and long-term outcomes (38:53) Advice for PhD students and early-career researchers

    43 min
  2. 18/11/2025

    Episode 32: Job van Exel and Informal Care

    In this episode of EcoEchoes, we speak with Professor Job van Exel, a health economist, director of research at ESHPM, and the original founder of this podcast. We discuss the challenges in defining and measuring informal caregiving, especially for incorporating it into economic evaluations and then to further down the line inform policy. For example, we talk about the distinctions between objective and subjective burden, and the different assumptions and potential biases in different valuation approaches (proxy good, opportunity cost, contingent valuation, perseverance time). In the final part of the episode, Job reflects on his career trajectory, the role of luck and curiosity, and gives advice for early-stage researchers on career planning and embracing opportunities.   Guest: Job van Exel, Professor of Health Economics at Erasmus School of Health Policy & Management (ESHPM), Erasmus University Rotterdam Host: Fanny Tallgren, Andrea De Palma   If you are interested in reading more about this topic, then this paper summarizes work done at ESHPM in terms of measuring and valuing the impact of patient interventions on informal carers. In this paper, you can learn more about the perseverance time measure, and in this paper, how to use a discrete choice experiment to determine the value of an hour of time caregiving. This paper describes how to include broader effects of caregiving in an economic evaluation of a patient intervention using a measure that is compatible with how effects are measured in patients (and the healthcare perspective). This paper shows how to estimate caregiver time using information that is typically available in clinical trials: the EQ-5D scores of patients and their gender.

    57 min

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Hello, listeners! In 2024, a professor and a group of PhD students decided it was time to give research in health economics a voice (or set of voices!). Through this podcast, we aim to reveal the stories behind health economics research, create a resource for PhD students, academics, and anyone with an interest in this field, review key conferences and share tips that help us make our way in academia.