Part 2: After the last few weeks, Hannah Ferguson is not okay.

Listen to part 1 of Clare's conversation with Hannah here.

On a Thursday morning in Australia, news breaks that far-right US activist Charlie Kirk has been shot while speaking at Utah Valley University. Hours later, Hannah Ferguson — CEO of Cheek Media, a proudly feminist and unapologetically progressive platform — publishes her response. The headline reads: “The shooting of Charlie Kirk is not a choice between celebration and condemnation.” Within hours, her words ignite a firestorm, sending her name into headlines across mainstream media and sparking another brutal pile-on.

In Part 2 of my conversation with Hannah, we talk about what it’s like to weather this latest storm in real-time. She opens up about the death and rape threats, the financial insecurity facing her business, and the attacks on her character that have left her shaken. This episode picks up where we left off in Part 1 — as Hannah confronts not just the personal cost of a pile-on, but the terrifying scale of one that has made her a national target.

With thanks to Hannah Ferguson. You can see her live across the country in the upcoming months. More details can be found here. 

Next week, journalist Marlee Silva joins us in studio.

The Pile-On is created and hosted by Clare Stephens.

Produced by Lize Ratliff.

For guest suggestions or feedback, message Clare on Instagram @clare.stephenss

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Find her debut novel The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done — about a young woman at the centre of a vicious online pile-on — here. 

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