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Kia ora (hello) and welcome to the Beyond Consultation Podcast.

This is the podcast to help you do more than just tick the box of consultation.

You'll hear stories of people working together on challenges that no one person or organisation can address on its own. You'll hear about the mindsets, the methods, the failures, and the lessons learned - all with the goal of increasing the collective impact you're making in your work.

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Kia ora (hello) and welcome to the Beyond Consultation Podcast.

This is the podcast to help you do more than just tick the box of consultation.

You'll hear stories of people working together on challenges that no one person or organisation can address on its own. You'll hear about the mindsets, the methods, the failures, and the lessons learned - all with the goal of increasing the collective impact you're making in your work.

    Ep 27 - Where to next for Community-Led Development? - with Megan Courtney

    Ep 27 - Where to next for Community-Led Development? - with Megan Courtney

    Introducing Megan Courtney
    I first met Megan when I moved to Nelson five or six years ago. We caught up for a cup of coffee and I was a little bit in awe of some of the stuff she was talking about.

    She's one of the core members of Inspiring Communities and has been with the organisation since it started 15 years ago.

    In this episode we talk about the changes she’s seen in community-led development during this time.

    We also explore Inspiring Communities’ journey as an organization that's made up of European descended New Zealanders who are authentically asking themselves, ‘How can we be of Aotearoa New Zealand?’

    This episode is packed with all sorts of mind-altering gold nuggets.

    If you're looking for insight into how to navigate the messiness of systems change or involved in community-led development, you are going to love this conversation.

    In today’s episode you’ll learn:

    The nature of cycles, and how we shouldn’t get too stuck on the exciting stuff in the beginning when the real work comes with pushing through.
    How structural response without changing mindsets and practices can only take us so far.
    Why it’s important to think of different ways of enabling participation in what you’re doing.
    How you might authentically grow and nurture a Tangata Tiriti organisation.

    Resources mentioned in this episode

    Inspiring Communities’ website.
    Te Kai a te Rangatira - a collection of videos sharing tikanga Māori.


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    • 42 min
    Ep 26 - What's your Wellbeing plan, with Paul McGregor

    Ep 26 - What's your Wellbeing plan, with Paul McGregor

    Today’s topic was inspired by two things that happened on the morning of recording this episode.

    First, our original guest opened up about not being up to the recording session. Life was just too much at that moment.

    Second, I was reading this fantastic report called Wellbeing Inspires Well-doing. The report looks at how changemakers’ inner wellbeing influences their work.

    These two small things made me realise how important it is to look after your own wellbeing, especially if you are hoping to serve others. In short, if the oxygen mask pops down, make sure you put your own one on before you start helping other people.

    It can be really easy to put other people's needs ahead of our own. Even more so now that we find ourselves in lockdown, possibly alongside family and loved ones.

    So, if that sounds like something you can relate to, today's episode is for you.

    In today’s episode you’ll learn:

    Why it’s important to put ‘protection barriers’ in place for our own wellbeing
    Six practices that makes navigating complexity easier
    How pausing and doing something for yourself can help you better serve others

    Resources mentioned in this episode

    Download a Wellbeing Plan template
    If you need a wellbeing coach, we recommend https://www.tuiwilliams.com/ or https://www.intentionalgenerations.com/
    Wellbeing Inspires Welldoing report
    Tips on killing stress by Alicia McKay
    Personal Practices for Navigating Complexity - article by Business Lab


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    • 20 min
    Ep 25 - Local Decision Making, with Judene Edgar

    Ep 25 - Local Decision Making, with Judene Edgar

    I first met today’s guest when we were fellow actors in our local drama production, but she is much more than a former theater colleague.

    Deputy Mayor of Nelson City Council, Judene Edgar, really epitomizes what it means to be committed, to going beyond consultation.

    Her CV is really lengthy (which we discuss), but safe to say that Judene has perspective from so many different angles!

    In this episode we look ahead to the future of local governments because Judene is in the thick of some of the reforms that are coming down the pipeline being potentially taken from councils and transferred to regional organizations .

    Within this context, how can you enable local power and local decision making when services are being centralized to improve efficiency through scale?

    How do you do engagement and consultation? How do you choose the right media? How do you set expectations realistically? We talk about how to keep yourself healthy and well, when you're driven by service and a need to say yes.

    In today’s episode you’ll learn:

    The importance of scoping the actual problem, instead of finding solutions for the symptoms.

    Why it’s important to forge real interpersonal relationships with your community - get out there!

    How to keep yourself healthy and well when you’re driven by service.

    Why the right media and realistic expectations go a long way to building trust and understanding in your community.


    Resources mentioned in this episode

    Judene’s LinkedIn profile.

    Information on the Three Waters Reform Programme.



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    • 43 min
    Ep 24 - Leanne Hughes interviews our host Paul McGregor

    Ep 24 - Leanne Hughes interviews our host Paul McGregor

    Leanne Hughes interviews our host Paul McGregor
    A year into hosting this podcast, I realise that the process has taught me so much about being a better communicator, facilitator and consultant. Recently, it also led me to being interviewed for Episode 179 of the the First Time Facilitator Podcast with the energetic Leanne Hughes.

    If you are feeling tired or drained within your role at the moment, today's episode is going to provide you with a bit of inspiration, as well as some new ideas, tools and maybe even some perspective.

    This time, we are flipping the script and I'm the one being interviewed. Leanne Hughes gave us permission to share her interview with me on our own podcast… with a few edits for our audience!

    I open up about some of the challenges I've faced working in government, being a facilitator, and a consultant, and how it all brought me to where I am today.

    In today’s episode you’ll learn:

    Why facilitation doesn’t mean solving all the problems for your group.

    Some of my past facilitation failures and how those have shaped me

    Why it’s important to realise that the value we deliver is separate from our self-worth

    How trusting your curiosity and intuition can be great tools for facilitation in the moment.


    Resources mentioned in this episode

    Paul McGregor’s LinkedIn profile.

    The Business Lab website

    Leanne Hughes LinkedIn profile.

    The First Time Facilitator Podcast

    The Flipchart Facebook page.



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    • 39 min
    Ep 23 - The Power of Curiosity, with Breanna McQuade

    Ep 23 - The Power of Curiosity, with Breanna McQuade

    Introducing Breanna McQuade
    Bright, curious and always evolving, Bre is one of our most prized assets here at Business Lab.

    We can often get so bogged down with the pressures of everyday work that we can forget to ask the bigger questions. But Bre's always asking them naturally - and that has a lot of power.

    She's constantly digging deeper. Even in her job interview, she asked us, ‘What's your future vision for the business?’.

    She embodies the power of curiosity. Bre doesn’t shy away from emotion and her approach to ‘being human’ within the workplace.

    Bre wears many hats on top of being our Operations Manager. One of those hats is with The Social Experiment, and that’s the context we dive into in today’s episode.

    Connect with Bre via LinkedIn.

    In today’s episode you’ll learn:

    Why a little mystery can go a long way when inviting people to engage with you

    The importance of defining the ‘container’ for codesign or social innovation

    Why systems thinking and codesign can be so challenging for people to grapple with (and how to help people through that)

    The value of being open about emotions and creating space for them at work (especially when things are super busy).


    Resources mentioned in this episode

    The Social Experiment



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    • 39 min
    Ep 22 - Real Talk about Māori-Crown Partnerships, with Kara Nepe-Apatu

    Ep 22 - Real Talk about Māori-Crown Partnerships, with Kara Nepe-Apatu

    Introducing Kara Nepe-Apatu

    Passionate about community, social justice and having the voices heard of those who are often overlooked, Kara Nepe-Apatu is outspoken and clear about where she feels the social conversation should go next.

    Kara, who works at NZ Treasury, states on her LinkedIn bio that "My opinions are my own and do not reflect the position of the public service." But her opinions are garnering reaction - real and emotional reaction.

    Recently, in a LinkedIn post, Kara shared her frustrations over the level of discussion around Māori-Crown relationships, claiming that it was still a basic, 101 type of conversation.

    She wants more.

    More ‘real talk’. Better partnership models and initiatives. Idea/collaboration hubs where iwi, communities, businesses and government can grow better partnerships.

    She wants gnarly questions to be brought to the table - and many are agreeing with her.

    So, how can we improve the conversations around Māori-Crown relationships? How do we go about ‘leveling up’ and finally getting to those tough and gnarly issues that are truly at the heart of the matter?

    In this episode, Kara shares her passion for the issue and brings her ideas forward in an attempt to kick-start a new movement.

    Connect with Kara Nepe-Apatu via LinkedIn here.

    In today’s episode you’ll learn:

    Why people are craving discussions about the gnarly “how” of Māori partnerships

    How to enable and support tino rangatiratanga (Māori rights to self-governance)

    Some ‘bright lights’ we can look to for inspiration in Māori-Crown relationships

    What’s coming next in this discussion about Māori-Crown relationships .


    Resources mentioned in this episode

    The LinkedIn post that started it all

    Atawhai Tibble’s podcast episode on The Five Wai’s (Not Why’s) of Māori Engagement

    Atawhai’s article on The Five Wai’s



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    • 33 min

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