Breaking Precedent

Leah Solivan

Welcome to Breaking Precedent, the podcast that dives deep into the stories of trailblazers, innovators, and game-changers who are redefining societal precedents. Join us as we sit down with extraordinary individuals who are pushing the boundaries of social norms, challenging precedents, and setting new ones in their fields. Whether it’s in technology, art, social justice, or beyond, Breaking Precedent is your source of inspiration for understanding how precedents are broken and new paths are forged.

  1. Broken System: Halle Tecco on What it Takes to Build Massively Better Healthcare

    2 DAYS AGO

    Broken System: Halle Tecco on What it Takes to Build Massively Better Healthcare

    What would it take to make healthcare massively better? In this episode of Breaking Precedent, Leah Solivan sits down with Halle Tecco, founder of Rock Health, to unpack why the U.S. healthcare system remains so hard to change—and what it will actually take to fix it. Drawing from her upbringing in the Midwest, decades of experience across healthcare, investing, public health, and education, and her new book Massively Better Healthcare, Halle explains how incentives, power dynamics, and regulatory capture shape outcomes far more than technology alone. From Medicaid disparities and data misuse to venture capital timelines and the myth of “innovation solves everything,” she challenges founders and leaders to see healthcare as a system—not just a product opportunity. Together, Leah and Halle explore why healthcare resists scale, how evidence differs from proof of impact, and why founders must often become advocates—not just builders. Halle shares lessons from Rock Health, insights from teaching at Columbia and Harvard, and hard truths about incumbents, misaligned incentives, and what meaningful progress actually looks like. Halle Tecco is a healthcare investor, educator, and author focused on improving outcomes, access, and equity across the healthcare system. She is the founder of Rock Health, an early-stage venture firm supporting digital health startups, and the author of Massively Better Healthcare: The Innovator’s Guide to Tackling Healthcare’s Biggest Challenges. Her work spans investing, public health, teaching, and policy advocacy, with a mission to make healthcare meaningfully better for more people. Massively Better Healthcare (Book): https://www.halletecco.com/bookRock Health: https://rockhealth.comCost Plus Drugs (Mark Cuban): https://costplusdrugs.comEpic Systems (EHR): https://www.epic.comCleveland Clinic: https://my.clevelandclinic.orgNational Academy of Medicine (Social Determinants of Health context): https://nam.eduCenters for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS): https://www.cms.govMenlo Ventures – AI in Healthcare Report: https://menlovc.com/perspective/ai-in-healthcare/ Shownotes00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent02:10 Icebreaker: A Personal Moment That Changed Halle’s View on Healthcare06:30 Growing Up in the Midwest and Early Healthcare Experiences10:45 Fairness, Access, and Social Determinants of Health15:20 Questioning Systems from the Inside and Outside19:40 Founding Rock Health and Early Digital Health Investing24:10 Why Healthcare Resists Scale28:30 Data, AI, and the Future of Healthcare33:10 Incentives, Power, and Misalignment37:20 Writing Massively Better Healthcare41:00 What Needs to Change and What Innovators Can Do Next44:30 Final Thoughts Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: leah_solivanX: @labunleashed

    45 min
  2. Breaking the Bias: Samara Hernandez of Chingona Ventures on Capital, Culture, and the Future of Funding

    22 JAN

    Breaking the Bias: Samara Hernandez of Chingona Ventures on Capital, Culture, and the Future of Funding

    What happens when difference becomes a competitive advantage? In this episode of Breaking Precedent, Leah Solivan sits down with Samara Hernandez, founder of Chingona Ventures, to explore how identity, constraint, and culture can shape leadership in venture capital. From growing up in Mexico to building a venture fund in the United States, Samara reflects on how limited resources, discipline, and an early love of math forged resilience and clarity—and how being underestimated became a source of strength. Tracing her path from engineering at the University of Michigan to finance at Goldman Sachs, and ultimately to launching her own fund, Samara shares how she learned to turn difference into a competitive edge. Now a venture capitalist and engineer backing bold founders, she brings a philosophy of doing more with less—working to close access gaps, expand opportunity, and redefine leadership in an industry built on pattern-matching. Samara Hernandez is a venture capitalist and engineer focused on backing bold founders building the future. Born in Mexico and raised in Chicago, her career spans engineering, finance, and early-stage investing, shaped by a philosophy of doing more with less. Through Chingona Ventures, she works to close capital gaps and expand opportunity for underrepresented founders across the innovation economy. Learn more at chingonaventures.com, and follow Samara on Instagram @chingonaventures and LinkedIn. Resources National Venture Capital Association (NVCA) Venture Forward SAFE (Simple Agreement for Future Equity) Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent!02:03 Icebreaker: Turning Differences into Superpowers 03:43 Samara's Childhood and Education 06:59 From Mexico to Chicago: A Family's Journey 07:21 The Significance of Qana Ventures 08:32 Celebrating Hispanic Heritage 09:59 The Power of Community and Upbringing 11:48 Discovering a Passion for Math 13:30 Navigating Education as an Immigrant 17:39 Choosing Engineering and University Life 24:13 From Engineering to Wall Street 26:08 Learning and Growing at Goldman Sachs 30:39 The Intensity of Sales and Moving On 31:12 Mentorship and Business School Journey 32:18 Discovering Venture Capital by Accident 34:13 First Steps in Venture Capital 35:37 Building a Venture Firm from Scratch 36:48 Challenges and Opportunities in Venture Capital 40:31 Scaling Chingona Ventures 44:44 The Power of Representation and Impact 51:07 Investing in the New Majority 57:01 Redefining Success in Venture Capital 01:03:16 Final Thoughts and Advice for Founders --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/ Instagram: leah_solivanX: @labunleashed

    1h 6m
  3. Breaking the Silence: Derrick “D-Nice” Jones on Music, Movement, and the Legacy of Club Quarantine

    8 JAN

    Breaking the Silence: Derrick “D-Nice” Jones on Music, Movement, and the Legacy of Club Quarantine

    What happens when culture becomes a form of leadership? In this episode of Breaking Precedent, Leah Solivan sits down with Derrick T. Jones, better known as D-Nice,  legendary DJ, photographer, and cultural connector, to explore how music, joy, and shared experience can shape communities and create belonging at scale. From his early days in hip-hop to the global phenomenon of Club Quarantine, D-Nice reflects on the responsibility artists carry, the power of gathering, and how creativity can serve as social infrastructure in fractured times. The conversation spans art, entrepreneurship, cultural stewardship, and what it means to hold space for people, not just entertain them. D-Nice is a world-renowned DJ, photographer, and cultural curator whose career spans decades at the intersection of music, art, and community. Rising to prominence as a pioneering hip-hop artist before becoming one of the most influential DJs of his generation, D-Nice is widely celebrated for creating Club Quarantine, a global virtual gathering that redefined connection during the COVID-19 pandemic. Through his work, D-Nice demonstrates how culture can be a unifying force — building bridges across industries, generations, and identities. Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome to Breaking Precedent! 01:00 Introducing D Nice: A Multifaceted Innovator 05:40 Early Life and Hip Hop Beginnings 16:52 The Influence of Scott La Rock 32:34 Stop the Violence: A Call to Action 35:49 The World and Democracy 37:17 Political Involvement and Personal Reflections 39:02 The Birth of Club Quarantine 40:53 The Evolution of Club Quarantine 49:39 From Club Quarantine to Carnegie Hall 53:12 Breaking Precedents in Entertainment 01:03:35 The Role of AI and Technology in Creativity 01:07:01 Final Thoughts and Reflections Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. She founded TaskRabbit in 2008 after beginning her career as an engineer at IBM. Connect with Leah Website: breakingprecedent.comInstagram: @leah_solivanX: @labunleashed

    1h 10m
  4. Shattering the Grid: Lynn Jurich on Electrifying Homes and Extending Women’s Lives

    26/12/2025

    Shattering the Grid: Lynn Jurich on Electrifying Homes and Extending Women’s Lives

    In this episode of Breaking Precedent, the host  Leah Solivan is joined by Lynn Jurich, co-founder and former CEO of Sunrun, to discuss her journey from growing up in Tacoma, Washington to leading one of the largest residential solar companies in the U.S. They explore the challenges and triumphs of scaling Sunrun, including innovative financing models and negotiating with utility companies. Jurich also shares personal insights on the impact of sports on resilience, the importance of strength training, and her foray into women's health through the establishment of the Female Longevity Institute. The conversation highlights Jurich's persistent optimism, innovative mindset, and commitment to transforming entrenched industries. Lynn Jurich is an entrepreneur, investor, and visionary leader who co-founded Sunrun, the nation’s leading residential solar and energy services company. Under her leadership, Sunrun grew from an idea pitched beside a county fair pumpkin stand to a publicly traded company with over a million customers, $2 billion in recurring revenue, and a $20 billion market cap. Named one of Fortune’s “Most Powerful Women,” Lynn has pioneered clean energy innovation by championing rooftop solar, distributed batteries, and consumer-driven energy independence. Listeners can learn more about Lynn Jurich at Sunrun.com and on LinkedIn . Resources: Berkshire Hathaway EnergyDOE – U.S. Department of EnergyLunar EnergyShow Notes:  00:00 Introduction to Breaking Precedent 00:21 Meet Lynn Jurich: Solar Pioneer 01:30 Personal Reflections and Icebreakers 03:40 Lynn's Early Life and Competitive Spirit 04:29 Lessons from Sports and Leadership 07:59 The Journey to Stanford and Beyond 10:41 The Birth of Sunrun and Solar as a Service 13:02 Challenges and Triumphs in Solar Energy 17:28 Navigating Financial Crises and Growth 21:12 Breaking Energy Precedents and Future Vision 25:25 Consumer Demand for Solar and Batteries 25:56 Taking Sunrun Public with a Newborn 28:07 Battling Utilities in Nevada 29:43 Sunrun's Growth and Future Innovations 31:54 Founding the Female Longevity Institute 33:54 Challenges in Women's Health Research 37:26 Precision Medicine for Women 42:35 Breaking Precedents in Energy and Healthcare 47:57 Advice for Breaking Through Entrenched Systems --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @labunleashed X: @labunleashed

    50 min
  5. Emergency Break: A Doctor’s Case for Rebuilding the System, Not Just Treating the Symptoms

    11/12/2025

    Emergency Break: A Doctor’s Case for Rebuilding the System, Not Just Treating the Symptoms

    In this episode of Breaking Precedent, the host, Leah Solivan interviews Dr. Thomas Fisher, an emergency medicine physician and political candidate. They discuss Dr. Fisher's career, including his experiences growing up on the South Side of Chicago, attending Dartmouth, and his work in emergency rooms. He shares insights from his book, 'The Emergency,' and how it reflects the systemic inequities in healthcare. Dr. Fisher also touches on his motivations for running for Congress, his vision for improving healthcare, and the importance of public service. Through personal anecdotes and policy discussions, the episode delves into the intersections of medicine, social justice, and political activism. Dr. Thomas Fisher is an emergency physician, author, and public servant dedicated to transforming America’s healthcare system from the inside out. Born and raised on the South Side of Chicago, Thomas grew up in a community of working families and changemakers who showed him both the promise and the inequities of the world around him. The son of a physician and a social worker, he learned early that service isn’t just a calling—it’s a responsibility. Listeners can learn more about Dr. Thomas Fisher at ThomasFisherForCongress.com, Donate to his campaign at https://secure.actblue.com/donate/fisherlaunch1000 and follow him on LinkedIn @ThomasFisherMD. Resources: University of Chicago Civil Rights Act of 1964 Affordable Care Act (ACA) White House Fellows Program Show Notes:  00:00 Introduction to Breaking Precedent 00:21 Meet Dr. Thomas Fisher 01:17 Icebreaker: Superpowers 04:22 Growing Up on the South Side of Chicago 06:21 Influence of Parents and Education 14:15 Journey to Dartmouth and Medical School 20:28 Choosing Emergency Medicine 23:23 Writing 'The Emergency' 27:46 Patient's Decline and ICU Struggles 28:58 Emotional Impact of Patient Loss 30:03 COVID-19's Systemic Impact 33:03 Challenges in the American Medical System 38:46 Entrepreneurship and Healthcare Innovation 42:23 Running for Congress: A New Chapter 48:18 Vision for Healthcare and Public Safety 53:48 Legacy and Inspiration --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @labunleashed X: @labunleashed

    58 min
  6. Breaking Gravity: Olympic Gymnast, Nastia Liukin, on Defying Limits, Labels & Expectations

    26/11/2025

    Breaking Gravity: Olympic Gymnast, Nastia Liukin, on Defying Limits, Labels & Expectations

    In the second episode of the brand-new season of Breaking Precedent, Leah Solivan sits down once again with Olympic legend Nastia Liukin — and the conversation hits deeper than ever. They revisit their first encounter and trace the arc of Nastia’s extraordinary career, from the early days in the gym to the unforgiving expectations that come with being one of the world’s top athletes. Nastia opens up about what the pursuit of perfection really cost her, the pressures and politics behind gymnastics judging, and the emotional toll of constantly performing at an elite level. She and Leah dive into the highs, the heartbreaks, and the hard-earned wisdom that came from both. Beyond the medals, Nastia reflects on rebuilding her identity after competition, the ventures and creative projects that now drive her, and her commitment to guiding and inspiring the next generation of athletes. Nastia Liukin is an Olympic gold medalist, entrepreneur, and broadcaster who became one of the most decorated gymnasts in the world at just 18 years old. After retiring from competition, she transitioned her passion into building a brand, founding the annual Nastia Liukin Cup, and inspiring the next generation of athletes through mentorship and community. Today, she’s a sought-after speaker and role model, sharing lessons on resilience, identity, and redefining success beyond the podium. Learn more about Nastia Liukin at NastiaLiukin.com and on Instagram @NastiaLiukin. Resources: Marie Claire Power Trip (San Francisco event) USA Gymnastics Show Notes:  00:00 Introduction to Breaking Precedent 00:05 Reminiscing Old Memories 00:52 Icebreaker: Sacrifices and Reclaiming Life 01:49 Balancing Career and Personal Life 02:58 The Journey of Self-Discovery 07:38 The Foundation of a Gymnastics Legacy 10:40 Immigrant Beginnings and Family Sacrifices 16:57 Overcoming Physical Challenges in Gymnastics 19:43 Mental Strength and Focus 25:53 Defining Success Beyond Gymnastics 29:00 Breaking Age Narratives in Gymnastics 34:30 Reflecting on Personal Struggles and Resilience 35:36 The Defining Moment: 2012 Olympic Trials 36:53 Lessons from Falling and Getting Back Up41:05 “We will never be defined by a salary, a title, a relationship, a company, or even a gold medal. Those are things we’ve done, not who we are.”  45:26 Navigating Subjectivity in Gymnastics 53:00 Life After Gymnastics: Embracing Imperfection 01:11:22 Inspiration and Future Aspirations --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @labunleashed X: @labunleashed

    58 min
  7. Breaking Bread: How Christina Tosi Made Dessert a Movement

    13/11/2025

    Breaking Bread: How Christina Tosi Made Dessert a Movement

    Kicking off a brand-new season and launching our first-ever video episode, Breaking Precedent returns with a powerful conversation between host Leah Solivan and Christina Tosi, founder of Milk Bar. Christina traces her journey from baking cookies with her grandmothers in Ohio to becoming one of the most influential pastry chefs and entrepreneurs in the country. Leah and Christina unpack their shared experiences as introverts navigating high-pressure environments, the mentors who shaped their paths, and the creative process behind Milk Bar’s iconic recipes like the Compost Cookie and Crack Pie. Christina opens up about building a business during the 2008 financial crisis, the role of constraints in driving creativity, and what it takes to scale a brand while protecting its soul and culture. Christina Tosi is a pastry chef, entrepreneur, and founder of Milk Bar, the beloved dessert brand known for its nostalgic yet innovative creations like Cereal Milk, Compost Cookies, and Milk Bar Pie. Raised in Ohio by generations of strong, creative women, Christina learned early the joy of making something out of nothing—a philosophy that would later define her career. Listeners can learn more about Christina Tosi at milkbarstore.com and on Instagram @christinatosi and @milkbarstore. Momofuku Kitchen Confidential by Anthony Bourdain  The Joy of Cooking by Irma S. Rombauer  Crack Pie / Milk Bar Pie Cereal Milk Ice Cream Show Notes: 00:00 Introduction to Breaking Precedent 01:00 First meeting and shared experiences 02:00 Introversion and social challenges 02:37 “Your destiny is impossible to miss by definition of it being your destiny.” — Christina Tosi 03:00 Scorpio connection and business beginnings 04:00 Swapping jobs and TaskRabbit 07:30 Childhood and baking origins 12:00 Family influence and career choices 26:00 Culinary school and early career 34:00 Starting a tradition: family meal desserts 36:00 The birth of Crack Pie 39:00 From simple recipes to Milk Bar 45:00 Launching Milk Bar during a financial crisis 52:00 Scaling Milk Bar: challenges and creativity 57:00 Nostalgia and innovation in desserts --- Leah Solivan is the host of Breaking Precedent, a podcast that explores the stories of innovators who are pushing societal boundaries and setting new precedents in their fields. Leah is General Partner at Fuel Capital, where she invests in early-stage companies across consumer technology, hardware, education, marketplaces, and retail. Leah has 15 years of experience building and creating technology products that have reached millions of people around the globe. She started her career at IBM as an engineer in the software group, working on Lotus Notes and Domino. In 2008, Leah founded TaskRabbit, the leading on-demand service marketplace in the world. Connect with Leah: Website: breakingprecedent.com/  Instagram: @labunleashed X: @labunleashed

    57 min

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Welcome to Breaking Precedent, the podcast that dives deep into the stories of trailblazers, innovators, and game-changers who are redefining societal precedents. Join us as we sit down with extraordinary individuals who are pushing the boundaries of social norms, challenging precedents, and setting new ones in their fields. Whether it’s in technology, art, social justice, or beyond, Breaking Precedent is your source of inspiration for understanding how precedents are broken and new paths are forged.