In this episode, Jill is joined by career coach Shannon Bowen for a rich conversation about what it really takes to move through change—not just professionally, but personally. Together, they explore the distinction between transition and transformation. A transition might look like a job search, a new role, or a career pivot. Transformation, however, is the deeper internal shift that asks us to rebuild trust with ourselves, reexamine our identity, and learn how to move forward with greater clarity and confidence. At the heart of their conversation is encouragement. Jill and Shannon reflect on how often clients seek coaching not because they lack capability or intelligence, but because they want someone firmly in their corner—someone who can help them regulate emotions, name what’s happening beneath the surface, and remind them of who they are when doubt creeps in. Career transitions can be deeply disruptive, stirring up fear, grief, and imposter syndrome, and coaching becomes a steady place to land when everything feels in motion. They also unpack the importance of understanding what work truly means to a client. A job is rarely just a job—it’s tied to identity, safety, worth, and belonging. Without addressing those deeper layers, even the “right” next move can feel misaligned. Jill and Shannon emphasize that self-trust is essential for navigating these moments well, and that authenticity—especially in interviews and the job search process—is not a liability, but a strength that increases connection and hireability. The conversation expands beyond individual coaching into the broader workplace, highlighting the need for environments rooted in care, humanity, and mutual support. When people feel seen and supported, they don’t just perform better—they transform. Shannon also shares how she thoughtfully integrates AI-generated insights into her coaching practice, using technology as a tool to deepen reflection and enhance, rather than replace, the human connection at the core of coaching. This episode is a reminder that real change isn’t only about what we’re moving toward, but how we’re being supported as we move. Transition may be the catalyst, but transformation is where lasting growth takes hold. Meet Shannon! Shannon Bowen is a career advancement coach, job search strategist, and salary whisperer who coaches professionals on how to ace their job search and step into a higher salary band. She is also a former nonprofit C-Suite leader, fundraiser, and a staff retention and salary negotiation expert. Currently, she is the CEO of her company Monsoon Leadership, the Co-President for AFP Advancement Northwest Board of Directors, and a trainer for AFP Global, AFP ICON, AFP LEAD, local chapters, NTEN, and more. Shannon also DIY designs her house (have you seen her Zoom background??), tends to her 50+ houseplants, cooks gourmet meals, and plans her next foodie vacay. Show Links! Follow Shannon on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannon-bowen525/ Monsoon Leadership: https://monsoonleadership.com/ Sweet Ass Affirmations card deck: https://ragecreate.com/products/the-sweet-ass-affirmations-deck-affirmations-to-motivate-your-creative-maniac-mind P.S. Remember, you are magic!