Detonation Point

Matt O'Neill

Hosted by Matt O'Neill, retired U.S. Secret Service Special Agent Detonation Point is where powerful conversations spark. Each episode brings you into the room with fascinating guests as they share their stories, dive into cutting-edge technology, and tackle the challenges of fighting crime in the 21st century. Along the way, expect insider insights from a career spent protecting leaders and confronting threats, plus a few detours into Philadelphia Eagles football. Go Birds. 🦅

  1. 6 DAYS AGO

    Episode 16 - Cybersecurity Trends: 2025 in Review and Predictions for 2026 with Jason Shafferman

    In this conversation, Matt O’Neill and Jason Shafferman discuss the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, focusing on trends from 2025 and predictions for 2026. They explore the growing importance of supply chain management, the shift in attack vectors towards identity risks, and the ongoing threat of ransomware. The discussion also highlights the challenges of identity and access management, the role of backups in resilience, and the risks associated with third-party dependencies. Looking ahead, they consider the implications of AI and quantum computing on cybersecurity. The conversation wraps up on a lighter note, with Matt and Jason sharing their perspectives on the NFL season, offering predictions on playoff contenders and standout teams. Takeaways Supply chain management has gained visibility post-COVID.Identity risks have become a major concern for organizations.Ransomware continues to be a significant threat.Compromised credentials are a common issue on the dark web.Organizations need to focus on backup strategies for recovery.Third-party dependencies pose risks to cybersecurity.AI will introduce new attack surfaces.The market for identity management lacks a clear leader.Ransomware monetization has shifted due to insurance coverage.The future of cybersecurity will be shaped by emerging technologies. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity Trends 02:52 The Evolution of Supply Chain Management 03:36 Shifts in Cyber Attack Vectors 07:46 Ransomware: Current Trends and Future Predictions 10:01 Identity and Access Management Challenges 12:44 The Role of Backups in Ransomware Recovery 15:08 Third-Party Risks and Cloud Dependencies 21:36 Emerging Threats: AI and Quantum Computing 24:24 Sports Predictions and Closing Thoughts About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio  This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    28 min
  2. 22/12/2025

    Episode 15 - When Ransomware Detonates: Why Recovery is the Real Target with Costas Kourmpoglou

    In this episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio, Matt O’Neill and Costas Kourmpoglou delve into the complexities of ransomware and organizational resilience. They discuss the evolution of ransomware tactics, the business model behind it, and the role of cryptocurrency in facilitating these attacks. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding initial access points, the cultural challenges within organizations, and the need for effective training and awareness. They also explore the implications of cyber insurance, the significance of backup strategies, and the future landscape of cybersecurity. Takeaways Ransomware has evolved into a lucrative business model.Initial access is often gained through credential reuse and social engineering.Organizational culture plays a crucial role in cybersecurity effectiveness.Training must be tailored and meaningful to be effective.Cybersecurity should be integrated into the overall business strategy.Backup strategies need to be robust and regularly tested.Dual extortion tactics are becoming more common among threat actors.Cyber insurance policies are evolving in response to ransomware threats.Organizations often struggle with the cultural aspects of cybersecurity.Resilience planning must involve all levels of the organization. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 1:25 Understanding Cyber Risk and Ransomware 05:17 Ransomware as a Business Model 07:25 The Role of Cryptocurrency in Ransomware 10:16 Cyber Insurance and Ransomware Payments 13:07 Initial Access and Vulnerabilities 15:36 Cultural Challenges in Cybersecurity 18:01 Empowering Employees in Cybersecurity 20:55 C-Suite Attitudes Towards Cybersecurity 23:14 Current Threat Vectors and Best Practices 26:33 Lateral Movement and Backup Strategies 27:24 The Evolution of Ransomware Tactics 29:15 The Dilemma of Paying Ransom 30:47 Focusing on Resilience and Business Continuity 33:08 The Importance of Reporting Breaches 34:27 Addressing Breach Fatigue 34:49 Key Strategies for Minimizing Cybersecurity Impact 37:29 The Reality of Resilience Planning 40:28 Cultural Challenges in Cybersecurity 41:47 The Future of Cybersecurity and Ransomware 44:47 Optimism in Cybersecurity Culture About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio  This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    47 min
  3. 15/12/2025

    Episode 14 - From D1 Football to K-9s & Global Cyber Investigations with Chase Clowser

    In this episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio, Matt O’Neill interviews Chase Clowser, a former Secret Service agent who transitioned from Division I football to tactical operations and K-9 handling before specializing in complex cyber investigations, including ransomware and money laundering. The conversation delves into the challenges of cyber crime, the importance of collaboration across borders, and the role of AI in criminal activities. Chase emphasizes the need for continuous training and mentorship in the field, as well as the importance of data in investigations. He also provides valuable advice for small and mid-sized businesses on how to protect themselves from cyber threats. The episode concludes with insights on the transition from government work to the private sector and the skills that are transferable between the two. Takeaways Chase Clowser specialized in cyber investigations, focusing on ransomware and money laundering. Collaboration across borders is crucial in law enforcement. Data plays a significant role in successful investigations. Continuous training and mentorship are essential in cyber investigations. AI is being leveraged by criminals to enhance their operations. Small to midsized businesses need to take cybersecurity seriously. The mindset of 'it's not a matter of if, it's when’ is important for businesses. Building a strong network is crucial for success in the private sector. Selling oneself is a key skill in both law enforcement and private sector roles. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Chase Clowser’s Background 02:52 Transitioning from Football to Law Enforcement 05:14 Becoming a Canine Handler 07:38 Diving into Cyber Investigations 10:20 The Role of Money Laundering in Cyber Crime 13:36 Challenges of Cross-Border Collaborations in Law Enforcement 17:01 Leveraging Data in Criminal Investigations 19:15 The Role of Analytics in Complex Cases 21:57 Training and Mentorship in Cyber Investigations 24:53 Collaboration and Knowledge Sharing 30:16 The Evolving Threat Landscape 32:57 Cybersecurity for Small and Mid-Sized Businesses 35:54 Transitioning from Public to Private Sector About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio  This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    41 min
  4. 08/12/2025

    Episode 13 - From SEAL Teams to Public Safety: AI-Driven Active Shooter Prevention with JJ Parma

    In this new episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio, Matt O'Neill interviews JJ Parma, a former Navy SEAL, discussing the impact of AI on public safety, the evolution of technology in military operations, and the challenges of leadership transitions. JJ shares insights from his extensive military career, highlighting cultural differences within the SEAL teams and the rapid advancements in technology post-9/11. The discussion also delves into the ethical implications of AI, the importance of human oversight in technology, and the need for proactive measures in public safety, particularly regarding drone technology and weapons detection systems. JJ emphasizes the role of healthcare and other industries in adopting new security technologies to protect civilians. Takeaways AI will make a material difference in public safety. Cultural differences exist between East Coast and West Coast SEAL teams. Transitioning from enlisted to officer presents unique challenges. Technology in the SEAL teams has evolved significantly post-9/11. Drones are a major concern for public safety. AI can enhance weapons detection and prevent violence. The ethical implications of AI are critical to consider. Implementation of new technology can be hindered by bureaucracy. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to AI and Public Safety 01:00 JJ Parma's Background and Naval Career 02:39 Cultural Differences Between East and West Coast SEAL Teams 11:02 Leadership Transition from Enlisted to Officer 13:33 Technological Evolution in the SEAL Teams 19:55 Drones and Their Impact on Public Safety 24:20 Concerns About Countering Drone Threats 27:39 The Financial Constraints of Security Operations 30:51 AI in Security: Challenges and Opportunities 34:06 The Role of Technology in Preventing Violence 39:35 The Ethical Use of AI in Security 44:15 Implementation Challenges of Security Technology 50:10 Adoption of Security Technology Across Industries About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio  This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    55 min
  5. 01/12/2025

    Episode 12 - Inside the Cyber Underworld: North Korea, Crypto Heists & Global Scams with Geoff White

    In this episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio, Matt O’Neill and journalist Geoff White discuss North Korea’s cybercrime activity, including the “supernote” counterfeit scheme and large crypto thefts. They cover how money laundering enables cybercrime, why stolen crypto is difficult to recover, the rise of ransomware, and the pandemic-driven surge in scams. They emphasize the need for stronger coordination between financial institutions, the private sector, and law enforcement. Takeaways North Korea carries out advanced cybercrime, including counterfeiting and hacking. A Supernote shows its ability to make near-perfect fake U.S. currency. Geoff White moved into cybercrime reporting as digital crime expanded. Money laundering underpins most cybercriminal activity. Stolen crypto is hard to recover. Ransomware expanded quickly through affiliate models. Scam victims often face skepticism. Pandemic-era online activity drove fraud growth. Cross-sector cooperation is essential. Resources About Geoff White WebsiteBooksRinsedThe Lazarus HeistCrime Dot ComPodcasts The Lazarus HeistCyber Hack: The Lazarus Heist Season Two Trailer The Dark Web Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Cybercrime and North Korea 01:36 The Supernote: North Korea's Counterfeiting Operations 05:11 Transitioning from Journalism to Cybercrime Investigation 07:35 The Role of Money Laundering in Cybercrime 09:53 Cryptocurrency: A Double-Edged Sword for Criminals 13:34 The Evolving Landscape of Cybercrime and Regulation 17:03 North Korea's Collaboration with Russian Cybercriminals 20:32 Innovative Cases in Money Laundering and Cybercrime 26:00 The Rise of Next-Gen Fraud 29:43 The Interplay of Cyber Crime and Money Laundering 31:31 Victim Perspectives and Law Enforcement Challenges 38:12 The Role of Private Sector in Combating Scams 39:31 Ransomware: The Evolving Threat 47:52 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio  This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    49 min
  6. 24/11/2025

    Episode 11 - A Journey Through a Secret Service Career from the 1970s to Today with Jim O'Neill

    In this compelling multi-generational episode of Detonation Point presented by Elastio, host Matt O’Neill and guest host Sarah O’Neill interview their father and grandfather Jim O’Neill about his Secret Service career beginning in the 1970s. Jim shares stories from early check-forgery investigations, the realities of protection before modern security technology, and memorable moments from the Reagan detail. Matt contrasts those experiences with today’s cyber-driven investigative environment, the challenges of staffing, social media’s impact on threat work, and how the job has evolved. The episode blends history, humor, and practical advice for anyone considering a career in federal law enforcement. Takeaways Early Secret Service investigations were fast, high-volume, and built heavily on street work and informants.Protection in the 1970s lacked today’s technology - no metal detectors, fewer protectees, and long campaign rotations.Relationship-building with local police was essential then and remains critical today.Jim’s memorable stories include undercover mishaps, evacuations involving major celebrities, and driving Reagan and Sinatra through Hoboken.Modern Secret Service work is dominated by cyber-enabled financial crime, digital forensics, and social-media-driven protective intelligence.Retention is harder today due to extensive travel, quality-of-life issues, and competitive opportunities at other agencies.Technology fluency is now a core requirement; most investigations involve digital footprints.Best career advice: check your ego, value your teammates, invest early in TSP, and know where the best bathrooms are on advance. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Detonation Point 01:14 Jim O'Neill's Early Career and Path to the Secret Service 05:05 Teaching Experiences and Challenges 08:42 Transition to Federal Law Enforcement 09:28 Training at FLETC vs. Secret Service School 13:02 Early Cases and Investigative Work in the Secret Service 21:03 Building Relationships with Law Enforcement 22:49 The Importance of Communication in Protection 25:16 Evolving Challenges in Investigations 27:07 Reflections on the 70s and 80s 29:39 The Changing Landscape of Crime 31:00 The Evolution of Agent Demographics 35:42 Challenges of Modern Law Enforcement 39:26 The Impact of Social Media on Protection 41:56 Retention and Recruitment in Law Enforcement 42:38 Reflections on a Career in Protection 50:15 The Rewards and Challenges of Federal Law Enforcement About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio  This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    57 min
  7. 17/11/2025

    Episode 10 - Understanding AI: A Conversation with Merlynn AI's Carl Wocke

    In this episode of Detonation Point, Matt ONeill speaks with Carl Wocke from Merlynn AI about the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence. They discuss the definition of AI, its implications for society, and the unique approach Merlynn takes by learning from human expertise rather than data alone. The conversation delves into the challenges of bias and hallucinations in AI, the potential for AI to replace human jobs, and the risks posed by bad actors using AI technology. Wocke shares success stories from Merlynn's work in various sectors, including banking and law enforcement, and explores the concepts of agentic AI and digital twins. The episode concludes with a discussion on the future of AI, the importance of human involvement, and the potential impact of quantum computing. Takeaways Merlynn AI learns from human expertise, not just data.Bias in AI is a form of expertise, both positive and negative.The future of work will depend on keeping humans relevant in the economy.Bad actors have fewer regulations, making them agile in using AI.Merlynn's technology has successfully reduced bottlenecks in banking and healthcare.Digital twins can enhance decision-making in law enforcement.Agentic AI represents a new frontier in automating tasks.Access to expertise is a critical challenge in various sectors.The next evolution in AI will focus on managing risk rather than just optimizing costs. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:40 Understanding AI: Definitions and Perspectives 05:37 The Role of Bias and Expertise in AI 08:11 AI's Impact on Employment and Relevance 10:08 AI in Crime: Challenges and Opportunities 12:49 Merlynn AI Success Stories: Removing Bottlenecks 18:35 Agentic AI 20:49 Digital Twins: The Future of AI Engagement 22:25 Access to Expertise: Collaboration Through Digital Twins 26:53 Transforming Incident Response with AI 31:28 Moving Expertise Upstream in Financial Transactions 36:07 The Future of Quantum and AI 39:30 Trust and the Human Element in AI 45:01 Participating in a Digital World About Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio  This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    47 min
  8. 10/11/2025

    Episode 9 - Firing Federal Agents, Government Shutdown, Eagles/Packers with Stephen Dougherty

    In this episode of Detonation Point, Matt ONeill and Stephen Dougherty discuss various topics including the standards and procedures for federal investigations, the impact of the ongoing government shutdown on federal employees, and the political polarization affecting public trust in government agencies. They also make predictions for the upcoming Eagles vs. Packers game, highlighting the significance of recent player acquisitions and the teams' performance. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 01:40 Understanding Federal Investigations 06:04 The Role of the Department of Justice 11:57 Arrest Procedures and Indictments 17:49 Consequences of Firing Federal Agents 20:32 Impact of Government Shutdown on Federal Employees 23:48 Navigating Financial Strain During Shutdowns 25:26 The Impact of Government Shutdowns on Contractors 26:50 Insider Threats and Vulnerabilities 28:38 The Polarization of Politics and Its Effects 29:47 Eagles vs. Packers: Game Predictions 38:54 Family Rivalries and Sports FandomAbout Our Founding Sponsor, Elastio This podcast is proudly presented by Elastio, the control point for cyber resiliency—because survival depends on clean recoveries. As our Founding Sponsor, Elastio continuously validates backups, bridging the gap between security tools and immutable storage. With AI-driven detection and zero-day recovery, Elastio ensures data is clean, uncompromised, and always recoverable. Learn more: www.elastio.com

    37 min

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Hosted by Matt O'Neill, retired U.S. Secret Service Special Agent Detonation Point is where powerful conversations spark. Each episode brings you into the room with fascinating guests as they share their stories, dive into cutting-edge technology, and tackle the challenges of fighting crime in the 21st century. Along the way, expect insider insights from a career spent protecting leaders and confronting threats, plus a few detours into Philadelphia Eagles football. Go Birds. 🦅