Dwell Differently

If you were our friend, and if we could look you in the eyes and see your struggles and know you fully, and if we could only give you ONE thing—we'd give you God’s Word. There is more power and love and truth in one verse than in a thousand other words. So, let us help you memorize God's words in a simple, easy way. We hope you'll love listening in while we chat about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives. 

  1. God's Unwavering Presence and Promises // Jen Wilkin

    28 JAN

    God's Unwavering Presence and Promises // Jen Wilkin

    "He does not promise to deliver you from hard times. He does not promise to deliver you from hard relationships. He does promise to deliver you from besetting sin, and that is a far better promise." — Jen Wilkin Today's Episode: Join Natalie Abbott and Jen Wilkin as they discuss God's unwavering presence and promises. They explore those themes through the lens of Joshua's life. Jen explains how God's work in Joshua's story intersects with his work in the greater story of the Bible and in the lives of believers today—delivering us from our sins just as he delivered God's people into the promised land. You'll be encouraged to find strength and courage in God's enduring faithfulness. This month's memory verse: "The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." — Deuteronomy 31:8 Today's guest: Jen Wilkin is an author and Bible teacher from Dallas, Texas. She has organized and led studies for women in home, church and parachurch contexts. An advocate for Bible literacy, her passion is to see others become articulate and committed followers of Christ with a clear understanding of why they believe what they believe grounded in the Word of God. Recent titles include Joshua, Deep Discipleship, You are a Theologian and Women of the Word. Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership! Links from today's show:  Check out Jen's new Bible study: Joshua: Every Good Promise Fulfilled.Memorize Joshua 21:45 with a free phone lock screen.Get 30% off The Hebrews Bible Study with a free Crossway Plus account.Start studying your Bible with The EASY Bible Study Method. Get 30% off Friend of Sinners at thegoodbook.com with the code: FRIEND.Support the show Follow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

    38 min
  2. The With-ness of God // Felicity Carswell & Sarah Dargue

    14 JAN

    The With-ness of God // Felicity Carswell & Sarah Dargue

    "I know my heart, and I know my sin, and I know how frail and fickle and feeble my heart is. So...what a comfort to just keep coming back to the Lord. The Lord is faithful to his promise. He is faithful to his word here, that he will never leave or forsake, even when I am so quick and my heart is so prone to wander." — Sarah Dargue Today's Episode: Join Natalie as she sits down with sisters Felicity and Sarah from the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast to discuss the wonder of God's faithful presence with his faithless people. Together, they delve into Deuteronomy 31:8, discussing the beauty of community, the challenges of life, and the steadfast promise that God will never leave nor forsake us. Join them for an inspiring conversation about faith, courage, and the transformative power of Scripture in our everyday lives. This month's memory verse: "The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged." — Deuteronomy 31:8 Today's guests: Felicity Carswell is from England but currently lives near Chicago with her book-selling husband, Jonathan, along with their two young sons, Rufus and Billy. She loves to teach the Bible, both locally and further afield, and disciple women on a one-to-one basis. She co-hosts, along with Sarah, the Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea podcast. Sarah Dargue is married to David, and mum to Toby, Sam & Emily. They live in London, where her husband is the pastor of their local church. She loves teaching and training women in her church family through the women's ministry. She's the co-host of the Bible study podcast Two Sisters and a Cup of Tea, and the author of Bumps, Babies, and the Gospel. Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership! Love the show? Support us by leaving a review. Links from today's show:  Find out more about Felicity and Sarah at twosistersandacupoftea.com.Get 30% off The Hebrews Bible Study at crossway.org/hebrewsbiblestudy with a free Crossway Plus account.Find The EASY Bible Study Method at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever you get good books.Get 30% off Friend of Sinners at thegoodbook.com with the code: FRIEND.Support the show Follow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

    38 min
  3. Deuteronomy 31:8 Deep Dive // Trust the God Who Won't Abandon You

    5 JAN

    Deuteronomy 31:8 Deep Dive // Trust the God Who Won't Abandon You

    "Whatever precipice you’re standing on or whatever dark valley you’re walking through, whatever uncertainty, whatever diagnosis or decision or adventure or woe. The Lord himself goes before you. Yes, he himself. And he will be with you." — Natalie Abbott Today's episode: Join Natalie Abbott as she explores the profound promise in Deuteronomy 31:8 that God will never abandon his people. She delves into the enduring faithfulness of God to Joshua, to his people throughout time, and to his people still today. She shows how the promise that God will always be with us and goes before us, finds its fulfillment in Jesus. And she helps us see how God's constant presence offers us strength and courage in times of fear and discouragement. This message will encourage you to trust in the God who is constant and safe.  This month's memory verse: The LORD himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged. — Deuteronomy 31:8 Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership! If you love this show...support it by leaving us a review. Links from today's show:  Get 30% off Friend of Sinners at thegoodbook.com with the code: FRIEND.Get 30% off The Hebrews Bible Study at crossway.org/hebrewsbiblestudy with a free Crossway Plus account.Find The EASY Bible Study Method at MoodyPublishers.com or wherever you get good books. Support the show Follow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

    23 min
  4. From Darkness to Light // Patrick Mahon’s Testimony

    24/12/2025

    From Darkness to Light // Patrick Mahon’s Testimony

    "One night I'm sitting out in my car, smoking a cigarette, and I look up at the church (cause it's always lit up) and the tree that's on the front corner...is engulfed in flames. I got joy for a second, you know. Like, 'oh this is good.' But I'm looking at it, and it's burning...but it's not being consumed." — Patrick Mahon Today's Episode: Listen in as Natalie's friend Patrick Mahon shares his remarkable testimony of God's work in his life to bring him out of the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of light. It's a powerful story of miraculous transformation. You won't want to miss it! Note: this episode is not appropriate for younger listeners.  This month's memory verse: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2  Today's guest: Patrick Mahon is a member of Central Church in Jefferson City, Missouri, where Natalie's husband is the pastor.  Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership! Love this show? Support us by leaving a review. Links from today's show:  Be encouraged with bite-sized biblical truth in New Morning Mercies: A Daily Gospel Devotional, by Paul David Tripp.Find empathy, wisdom, and real-life stories in When Dreams Fall Apart, by Jennifer Lucy Tyler.Dwell on God's character in Amazed: 30 Days of Growing in Awe, by Carolyn Lacey.Join Dwell Differently, and start memorizing in 2026!Support the show Follow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

    40 min
  5. Step Out into the Light // Natalie & Vera

    17/12/2025

    Step Out into the Light // Natalie & Vera

    "The amount of time that we spend on our screens, the amount of time that we spend numbing ourselves, the amount of time that we "check out" as people, as parents, as friends....It's amazing to me how more and more isolated we have become as a culture in the last 20 years and the last 5 years and the last year." — Natalie Abbott Today's episode: Join Dwell Differently cofounders and sisters Natalie Abbott and Vera Schmitz as they talk about darkness and light from a biblical perspective. They share personal stories, including Vera's childhood fear of the dark. They talk about the temptation to isolate in the dark and to numb ourselves with false comforts instead of walking in the true freedom and peace we find only in the light of Jesus. You'll love this heartfelt encouragement to bask in the warmth of God's light. This month's memory verse: “The people walking in darkness have seen a great light; on those living in the land of deep darkness a light has dawned.” — Isaiah 9:2  Memorize Scripture with us: Find out more about the easy button for Scripture memory, Dwell Differently’s monthly membership! Support our show: It's really just as simple as leaving us a review! Links from today's show:  Be encouraged with bite-sized biblical truth in New Morning Mercies: A Daily Gospel Devotional, by Paul David Tripp.Find empathy, wisdom, and real-life stories in When Dreams Fall Apart, by Jennifer Lucy Tyler.Dwell on God's character in Amazed: 30 Days of Growing in Awe, by Carolyn Lacey.Looking to give your loved one God's Word in the new year? Consider giving the gift of Dwell Differently! Support the show Follow Natalie & Vera at DwellDifferently.com and @dwelldifferently.

    29 min

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If you were our friend, and if we could look you in the eyes and see your struggles and know you fully, and if we could only give you ONE thing—we'd give you God’s Word. There is more power and love and truth in one verse than in a thousand other words. So, let us help you memorize God's words in a simple, easy way. We hope you'll love listening in while we chat about what our verse means, why it matters, and how it intersects with our daily lives. 

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