Return

Caitlan Siegenthaler

You’re not broken. You’re just burnt out on trying to be someone you’re not. Return is the podcast for conscious entrepreneurs, sensitive visionaries, and  healers who’ve checked all the boxes—and are still wondering, “Why doesn’t this feel right?” Hosted by Caitlan Siegenthaler, former therapist turned business energy strategist blending Human Design, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and soulful strategy. Return isn’t about forcing yourself into someone else’s blueprint. It’s about coming home to your own. This isn’t hustle hype or spiritual bypassing disguised as business advice. It’s honest, nuanced, often irreverent conversations for the biz owner who’s outgrown performative success and wants to build something that actually feels good. ✨ Tune in for solo episodes and guest convos that help you: Navigate seasons of change (without losing yourself)Reclaim your energy and decision-making powerBuild a business that honors your gifts and nervous systemExplore who you really are—beneath the shoulds Whether you’re in the midst of a pivot, healing from burnout, or finally ready to trust your intuition again,Return is your reminder that you’re not lost. You’re just on your way home. Let’s begin.

  1. 21 JAN

    Why Isn’t All This Self-Work Translating Into My Business? [Inner Infrastructure for Founders Series]

    Send us a text Knowledge vs. Embodiment: Why Knowing Yourself Is Your Greatest Business Asset in the Inner Infrastructure for Founders — Part 1 If you’ve consumed a lot of personal development, strategy, or self-awareness content — and still find yourself stuck, spiraling, or unable to follow through — this episode is for you. This is the first episode in a four-part series on Inner Infrastructure for Founders, where we explore why knowing yourself isn’t just nice — it’s foundational to sustainable growth. In this episode, Caitlan breaks down the difference between knowledge and embodiment, why insight alone isn’t enough, and how founders get stuck over-intellectualizing instead of integrating. We explore Human Design, parts work, nervous system capacity, and why most people opt out right when the work actually starts. This episode lays the groundwork for the entire series. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The real difference between knowledge and embodimentWhy self-awareness without integration becomes “empty calories”How founders use strategy to override discomfortWhy you can’t scale faster than your nervous system can holdHow embodiment shows up in real life (decision-making, boundaries, visibility)Why acceptance > optimization in this season of businessThe questions that reveal where your system is actually asking for supportChapters 00:01 – Knowledge vs. embodiment & the Inner Infrastructure series02:20 – Why self-awareness is uncomfortable (and avoided)05:30 – Patterns, courage, and slowing down enough to notice08:20 – Knowledge vs. internet noise11:00 – Acceptance > optimization14:00 – Why most people opt out of deep self-knowledge15:10 – Human Design as information vs lived integration17:00 – What embodiment actually looks like in business19:00 – Strategy, parts, and nervous system capacity23:00 – Selling, parts work, and the Girl Scout cookie story27:00 – Reflection + self-assessment30:40 – What’s coming next in the seriesLinks & Resources Mentioned: Next Level Decisions (Free Training): A Human Design + Parts-informed decision-making tool: https://www.caitlansiegenthaler.com/next-level-decisions Return+ (Paid Subscription): Behind-the-scenes episodes, integration content, and live calls. Join here   Human Design Integration Intensives: 1:1 support to move from knowing → operating: Book hereEpisode: Reading Dr. Richard Schwartz (Founder of IFS): Listen here    Recent Episode with Rick Kahler: Listen here Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    33 min
  2. 9 JAN

    Money Parts, Self-Led Finances & “A 12-Year-Old Running the Business” with Rick Kahler

    Send us a text What happens when a financial guy meets Internal Family Systems… and ends up sobbing in an IFS demo at Esalen? 😅 In this episode, I’m joined by Rick Kahler—financial planner + financial therapist who helped me (yes, as his willing guinea pig) meet my money parts, stop letting panic run the spreadsheet, and make more Self-led financial decisions. We also talk about how entrepreneurs can stop letting the visionary run the company alone while the “controller” is duct-taped in the basement. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How Rick stumbled into IFS (and immediately got humbled by the Ace of Spades demo)Why financial decisions are emotional decisions—and how IFS helpsWhat “Self-led finances” actually feels like (with the eight C’s)How to work with money scripts without shaming yourselfThe entrepreneur trap: visionary on top, controller exiledWhy resilience matters more than perfection (and why “fatal mistakes” aren’t always fatal)How Rick navigated selling a controlling interest in his company—and the grief of letting goWhere to start if you want to meet your money parts (without spiraling)Chapters 02:00 Rick’s IFS origin story (Esalen, “Schwartz guy,” and the demo that changed everything)06:50 Why Rick didn’t initially see himself as a financial therapist11:00 “Fraud” parts—yes, even for successful people17:00 The lightbulb: IFS + financial therapy (and the guinea pig era)20:40 What financial transformation can look like (spreadsheets, giving parts, saving parts)25:45 Financial uncertainty in the collective + working with fear from the outside-in36:00 Entrepreneurs: visionaries, controllers, and the E-Myth reality check41:15 Resilience, mistakes, and staring bankruptcy in the face44:35 Selling the business + getting unstuck at the “next level”57:45 Where to start with money parts01:03:00 Lightning round: Rick’s Self-energy song01:07:00 How to work with Rick + resourcesLinks & Resources Rick’s financial therapy practice: Advanced Wellbeing Advanced Wellbeing Financial TherapyRick’s blog / “Financial Awakenings” Kahler FinancialRick’s podcast: The Financial Therapy Podcast: It’s Not Just About the Money Financial Therapy PodcastCaitlan's website Join Undefined, we start January 21st: https://www.caitlansiegenthaler.com/undefined  If this episode made you feel 1% more seen (or 1% more willing to open the spreadsheet without sweating), please follow/subscribe, and leave a review—it helps more Returners find the show. And if you send this to a friend, I won’t stop you. 😉 Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    1h 10m
  3. 17/12/2025

    100th Episode: This Was Never About Self-Improvement (plus the 1 year, top 10 episodes of the year & more)

    Send us a text EPISODE 100: "This was the year of realizing that being seen isn’t about doing more—it’s about feeling safe enough to stop abandoning yourself." -Caitlan ✨ JOIN UNDEFINED: Undefined is where Projectors, Manifestors & Reflectors finally build a business around their energy – and succeed because of it. $200 OFF Expires 12/21---->>sign up here to get the code In this milestone episode, Caitlan Siegenthaler reflects on what the last 100 conversations have actually been about: self-permission over self-improvement, nervous-system-led visibility, and the quiet work of becoming yourself without self-abandonment. If you’ve been trying to fix yourself to be seen, this episode is your invitation to stop. What You'll Learn: Why IFS and Human Design aren’t self-improvement toolsWhat visibility looks like when your nervous system feels safeWhy beginnings are about becoming, not doingHow intuitive leadership actually formsWhat legacy really is (and what it isn’t)10 Lessons from This Year’s Top 10 Episodes: Reiki & IFS with Elizabeth Scott Nodes & Past Lives with Sarah TemelReturn+: The Human Design of Being Seen Return+: BTS of the Reading with Dr. Richard SchwartzReturn+: Evolving Beyond the Therapist IdentityThe Legacy of Being Seen with Mao BeckettNotes on Being Seen: What Visibility Really MeansDitch SMART Goals: The Intuitive Way to Reach Your GoalsI Had to Be Quiet to Stay Safe with Jalon JohnsonInternal Family Systems & Human Design: The Ultimate Power Duo  Listen to Episode 99 of Return here    Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    29 min
  4. 10/12/2025

    Return to the 9 Year: A Review & Who We Became in 2025

    Send us a text Episode 99:  Reflection, Reclamation & The Threshold of the Year of the Snake It’s the 99th episode of Return (!!!) and in perfect alignment, we’re closing out our nine year cycle just as we step into a new one. In this reflective, ritual-like conversation, Caitlan unpacks the numerology of a nine year — the year of completion, shedding, composting, and clearing — and reflects on what she’s learned, who she became, and what she’s consciously leaving behind. Inside, she shares her own roses + thorns in business and motherhood, how IFS + Human Design supported her through a year of deep transition, and invitations for you to reflect on your own nine-year cycle with journal prompts, parts work, and Human Design exploration. If you’re craving closure, clarity, or a gentle remembrance of who you became this year, let this episode guide you back to yourself. What You'll Learn in This Episode: What a 9 year means in numerology + why 2025 felt so intenseReflection prompts to meet the version of you this year shapedHow Caitlan used Human Design (4/6 profile) to build authentic connectionThe part she reclaimed through IFS — angerWhat she’s leaving behind, what she’s taking into the 1 yearRoses + thorns from both business + motherhoodWhy Episode 99 marks a threshold into visibility, magnetism, and creative fire 🔥 Timestamps: 02:00 — 05:30 | What a nine year is & why 2025 carried shedding energy 06:00 — 09:45 | Reflection + journaling prompts for the nine year 10:00 — 13:00 | Caitlan’s IFS revelation — working with anger & unburdening 13:10 — 15:00 | Human Design experiments + being a 4/6 connector 15:10 — 17:40 | What she’s leaving behind + tarot messages 17:45 — 19:45 | What she’s bringing into 2026 — Queen of Wands energy 19:50 — 25:30 | Roses + thorns: business, motherhood, expansion 25:30 — 28:00 | Gratitude, becoming, completion + Episode 100 preview Links & Resources: Try Return+ free for 7 days to access the full Return to Self SyllabusJoin Undefined (starts January 20, 2026) — Projectors, Manifestors & ReflectorsBook a Shifted Session (HD Reading + Integration)Last Year's Year in Review Podcast Episode Thank you for 99 weeks of returning together — for listening, sharing, and witnessing this work as part of your own self-expression. Next week’s episode marks 100, the final of the year, a moment of pause, and a doorway into what comes next. Come reflect, release, and rise with me.  See you there. ✨ Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    26 min
  5. 03/12/2025

    Elemental Design, Mental Inflammation & the Rituals That Heal with Dr. Shivani Gupta

    Send us a text Episode 98: Elemental Design, Mental Inflammation & Returning to Your Rhythm – with Dr. Shivani Gupta In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Shivani Gupta—Ayurvedic practitioner, turmeric researcher, founder of Fusionary Formulas, and host of Fusionary Health. We talk about her early health wake-up call, how she discovered Ayurveda, and why understanding your elemental design (Vata, Pitta, Kapha) can change everything about how you approach your body and energy. We also dive into her concept of mental inflammation—how modern stress quietly inflames the body—and simple, accessible daily rituals that help you reset, cool inflammation, and return to yourself. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: What Ayurveda is and how elemental design (Vata, Pitta, Kapha) shapes your body and energy.How mental inflammation from stress becomes physical symptoms.Why the 10pm–2am sleep window is crucial for detox, hormones, and inflammation.Simple Ayurvedic practices you can start today (tea rituals, circadian walks, grounding foods).How turmeric and other super spices support gut health and chronic inflammation.Key Takeaways: Inflammation is inevitable, not a personal flaw—modern life is inherently inflammatory.Stress hygiene matters; mental inflammation often drives physical symptoms.Knowing your elemental design helps you choose routines that align with your natural rhythm.Sleep is foundational—that 10pm–2am window is your body’s prime detox time.Tiny rituals—like “tea time is me time”—create space for intuition and regulation.Chapters: 00:01 – Welcome & setting the stage01:09 – Shivani’s wake-up call & shifting to Ayurveda04:01 – Discovering elemental design07:25 – What Ayurveda actually is09:52 – Mental inflammation explained15:00 – Nervous system anchors: tea time & micro-pauses19:34 – The inflammation forest fire24:47 – Vata, Pitta, Kapha: a deep, accessible breakdown32:00 – How to find your constitution36:09 – A Pitta’s daily rhythm: sleep, food, and movement41:51 – Nature’s medicine > gadgets44:55 – What she’d tell her younger self about healing46:46 – Her returning ritual: tea time is me time48:25 – Super spices, turmeric, and her research52:34 – Where to find Shivani & her upcoming Hay House bookLinks & Resources: Connect with Dr. Shivani Gupta: Supplements: Fusionary Formulas — Use code RETURN for 15% offInstagram: @doctor.shivaniguptaBook: : www.theinflammationcode.com Explore More from Caitlan: Website: caitlansiegenthaler.comWork with me through Human Design, IFS & Return offeringsSupport the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    54 min
  6. 20/11/2025

    Return+: Evolving Beyond the Therapist Identity

    Send us a text Return+ Evolving Beyond the Therapist Identity Episode 97: The Journey of Transformation and Growth In this Return+ episode, Caitlan Siegenthaler takes you inside the quiet, sacred, and often uncomfortable process of identity evolution. She shares how becoming a mother cracked open her sense of self, how the traditional therapist role began to feel too small, and how Human Design and Internal Family Systems became her compass for integrating truth, intuition, and authenticity. Through personal stories and energetic insights, Caitlan explores the tension between who we were trained to be and who we are becoming, the whispers that guide us, and the deep desire to return to the most honest version of ourselves. This conversation is an invitation to step out of the boxes that no longer fit and trust the transformation that’s already unfolding within you. TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE, SIGN UP FOR RETURN+ HERE Projectors/ Reflectors/ Manifestors: Sign up for the Undefined Waitlist Here.  Doors Open January 13th, We Start January 20th!  What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why evolving beyond your professional identity is both common and courageousHow authenticity often clashes with expectations placed on therapists and helpersWhat postpartum intuition can reveal about purpose and directionHow Human Design and IFS together support identity integrationWhy listening to your inner whispers matters more than external validationHow to navigate fear of judgment during big transitionsWhy creativity and intuition are essential parts of the therapeutic processHow community makes identity transformation less isolating Links & Resources Learn more about Caitlan’s offerings: www.caitlansiegenthaler.comJoin Return+: deeper personal reflections, energetic tools & community If you loved this episode, don’t forget to subscribe to Return+, leave a review, and share this conversation with someone on their own path of becoming Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    8 min
  7. 12/11/2025

    The Legacy of Being Seen with Mao Beckett

    Send us a text Episode 96: The Legacy of Being Seen (Part 5 of the On Being Seen series) Today I’m joined by my friend and amazing guest, Mao Beckett, LCSW—a liberation-centered somatic + spiritual therapist and founder of Reset & Resilient Wellness. Mao is a second-generation Cambodian American, rooted in a lineage of Kru Khmer traditional healers/mediums. Her work weaves ancestral wisdom with neuroplasticity and nervous-system science to help people repair relational wounds, unlearn internalized oppression, and reclaim voice. We explore the legacy of being seen: generational silence, perfectionism, white supremacy culture, colonization, parenting + co-regulation, interception, and why visibility can be both sacred and scary—yet essential. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How “generational silence” shows up in the body and voice—and why it isn’t all yours to carry.Ways systems (white supremacy culture, colonization, capitalism) shape our nervous systems, productivity myths, and isolation.Practical self-inquiry to discern: Is this resistance mine—or inherited?Why being seen isn’t all-or-nothing: pacing, choice, and community support.Parenting through a co-regulation lens (don’t rescue from feelings) and building interoception as a visibility skill.How sharing personal stories creates collective repair (and why AI can’t replicate that human-to-human attunement).Chapters: 02:30 — A musical portal to Self: Thee Sacred Souls and liberation themes05:40 — The big visibility block: “I want to… but can’t”07:25 — Generational Silence & Cambodian history: “broken courage” and freeze that never completed12:50 — This is human, not just cultural; systems that shape us (perfectionism, “right to comfort”)21:15 — Individualism vs. collective care; why our bodies aren’t built for factory productivity24:20 — Mao’s own launch resistance: discerning mine vs. lineage28:50 — “Valid fear of seeing ourselves” and how to approach the pause when pausing is scary33:00 — Interoception as a practice; patriarchy, men’s friendships, and emotional attunement35:10 — Parenting: don’t rescue from feelings45:10 — Vulnerability as decolonizing practice51:20 — Where to find Mao + offerings (intensives, membership, meditations)Connect with Mao & Caitlan: Mao Becket — Reset & Resilient Wellness: resetandresilientwellness.comInstagram: @maobecket_resetresilientCaitlan's website: https://www.caitlansiegenthaler.com/ If this episode hit a nerve (or soothed one), share it with a friend who’s navigating visibility. Rate + review Return so more big-hearted humans can find us. For deeper dives, resources, and behind-the-scenes of this On Being Seen series, join Caitlan's Subst Support the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    55 min
  8. 05/11/2025

    Return+: The Human Design of Being Seen: Energy, Visibility & Selling in Alignment

    Send us a text Episode 95: The Human Design of Being Seen: Visibility, Energy & the Art of Showing Up When It Feels Safer to Hide  There’s a quiet truth I keep coming back to: visibility isn’t about being louder — it’s about being braver with your energy. In this episode, we’re pulling back the curtain on what it really means to be seen through the lens of Human Design — not as performance or exposure, but as recognition. Caitlan explores how visibility, nervous system safety, and energy alignment all weave together to help you show up without forcing it. Because when your energy is right, recognition becomes inevitable. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The difference between being visible and performingHow your Human Design type shapes your relationship with being seenWhy your nervous system plays a bigger role in visibility than your content planWhat aligned selling looks like when you stop chasing and start resonatingKey Takeaways: You don’t have to chase visibility. When you’re aligned, you are visibility.Self-recognition is your most magnetic sales strategy.Your energy, not your strategy, is what people actually respond to. TO LISTEN TO THE FULL EPISODE BECOME A RETURN+ SUBSCRIBER HERE If you were sitting across from me at the table, I’d probably tell you this:  the best sales energy doesn’t come from doing more — it comes from being seen in your truth. We talk about how every energy type (Manifestor, Generator, MG, Projector, Reflector) has its own rhythm for visibility, and why the most potent marketing move you can make might just be grounding your nervous system before you hit “post.” I also share a behind-the-scenes story about how I created a paid partnership for this podcast without pitching or performing — just trusting my Splenic nudges and letting my design lead. Links & Resources: To listen to the full episode become a Return+ subscriber hereBook a Human Design Reading + Integration to apply this to your own chart here Follow Caitlan on InstagramSupport the show Produced by Caitlan Siegenthaler Cover Art by Kiara Opara If you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.

    7 min

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You’re not broken. You’re just burnt out on trying to be someone you’re not. Return is the podcast for conscious entrepreneurs, sensitive visionaries, and  healers who’ve checked all the boxes—and are still wondering, “Why doesn’t this feel right?” Hosted by Caitlan Siegenthaler, former therapist turned business energy strategist blending Human Design, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and soulful strategy. Return isn’t about forcing yourself into someone else’s blueprint. It’s about coming home to your own. This isn’t hustle hype or spiritual bypassing disguised as business advice. It’s honest, nuanced, often irreverent conversations for the biz owner who’s outgrown performative success and wants to build something that actually feels good. ✨ Tune in for solo episodes and guest convos that help you: Navigate seasons of change (without losing yourself)Reclaim your energy and decision-making powerBuild a business that honors your gifts and nervous systemExplore who you really are—beneath the shoulds Whether you’re in the midst of a pivot, healing from burnout, or finally ready to trust your intuition again,Return is your reminder that you’re not lost. You’re just on your way home. Let’s begin.