He was nicknamed "Herbie" at school before he ever knew it would become a global brand. Ian Hemphill grew up in a nursery in Dural in the 1950s, watched his mother write Australia's first published book on herbs, trained as an actor at NIDA, sat with 300 spice merchants in New Delhi and finally felt like he'd "found his tribe" - and then, in 1997, took $45 on the first day of trading from a converted terrace house in Rozelle. Nearly three decades later, Herbies Spices is one of Australia's most trusted names in herbs and spices, built on 120 handcrafted blends, zero outsourcing, an 800-page spice bible, and a philosophy that quality isn't negotiable, even if it means going out of stock. In this episode, Ian talks about asafoetida (once branded "devil's dung"), the ghost of an old spice trader who may or may not have guided a 21-ingredient ras el hanout, why chefs are chronically under-seasoning, and why "spicy" might be the most misunderstood word in the culinary world. What You'll Hear in This Episode A childhood steeped in herbs - Growing up at his parents' nursery in Dural, where his mother Rosemary (yes, actually named Rosemary) wrote Fragrance and Flavour, Australia's first herb book, and won a bronze medallion at the Frankfurt International Cookbook Fair in 1960 From NIDA to the family business - Ian trained as an actor, got into NIDA, and ended up "resting" (translation: unemployed) his way back into the family herb trade Finding his tribe - Representing Singapore at the first international spice group meeting in New Delhi in 1986, and feeling, for the first time, like the "weird spice guy" wasn't so weird after all The $45 first day - How Ian and his wife Liz sold their home, converted a Rozelle terrace into a shop, lived above it, and opened Herbies Spices on 7 July 1997 The ras el hanout with 21 spices - The unplanned, possibly-haunted origin story of one of Herbies' most iconic blends, made to order and on shelves within 24 hours Asafoetida, aka "devil's dung" - What it actually is, why it smells like a warning label, and why it might be doing more for your digestion than you think The most underrated spices in the pantry - Ajwain seed, Australian lemon myrtle, and roasted wattleseed all get their moment Why chefs are too scared of spice - Ian's theory on why professional kitchens routinely under-season, and the chamula scone incident that proves it "Spicy" vs "spiced" - Why one word might be quietly sabotaging how people think about flavour The next generation - Daughter Kate Hemphill, who tests recipes on her own kids in London and is now carrying the Herbies spice-discovery-tour torch under "Herbie's Kitchen" The smell test: "Smell your spices every time you use them, even the ones you're really familiar with, because that way you will develop a smell memory." His parting advice for anyone who actually wants to understand spice. About Ian Hemphill Ian Hemphill is the founder of Herbies Spices and one of Australia's foremost authorities on herbs and spices, with a family legacy in the trade stretching back to the 1950s. Author of Spice Notes (published internationally as The Spice and Herb Bible), Spice Travels, and co-author with daughter Kate Hemphill of How to Add Flavour, Ian has spent over four decades sourcing, blending, and educating on herbs and spices from Morocco to Cambodia to India. He and his wife Liz founded Herbies Spices in Rozelle, Sydney, in 1997, and have since developed more than 120 original spice blends - every one made in-house, never outsourced. Ian led 19 international spice discovery tours over 25 years before handing the reins to Kate, who now runs "Herbie's Kitchen" in the UK. You can find Herbie's Spices online, in specialty stores across Australia, and in the pages of Ian's books - where 800 pages still aren't enough to cover everything he knows. People & Places Mentioned Rosemary Hemphill - Ian's mother; wrote Fragrance and Flavour, Australia's first published herb book (1959) Liz Hemphill - Ian's wife and business partner; co-founded Herbies Spices in 1997 Kate Hemphill - Ian and Liz's daughter; chef, recipe developer, marketing lead, and runs "Herbie's Kitchen" spice tours in the UK Margaret Fulton - Family friend since Ian was 12; the food writer behind the line "food is not a competition" Christine Manfield & Alex Herbert - Dubbed "The Spice Girls" in an early Sydney Morning Herald piece that put Herbies on the map Herbies Spices - Founded in Rozelle, Sydney in 1997; now based on the Central Coast, NSW Resources & Links Spice Notes / Spice and Herb Bible - Ian's 800-page reference, now in its third edition https://www.herbies.com.au/shop/spice-kits-and-books/the-spice-herb-bible-3rd-edition-soft-cover/ How to Add Flavour - Ian and Kate Hemphill's newest book, built for beginners https://www.herbies.com.au/shop/spice-kits-and-books/books/how-to-add-flavor/ Spice Travels - Ian's account of decades spent sourcing spices around the globe https://www.amazon.com.au/Spice-Travels-merchants-voyage-discovery-ebook/dp/B006IGUTZG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=37ILCPELRZWN8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dnbS4vNT0AgI8uSghfl-hDmvAMOc5kn3qmjzuWMjDdAGWzJADbNgcDZAmCe1wCm9or_HjZ5WxsoiVUy2ceg5G5NO9cg0bn6hBuHrS4-toGm0jKaEkcu_coyWvokxV-0-4PeBhHfAKYBWEvbNuyUo9cix3fAGqXlBEXwVPUiPN77d47jq4OVgt44c1jsgpsiRiBHwLpKihYd7AHKAL0mV05HClVnLAUg4Y5vGJl3F37U.HIEs19H4imHdSOat-zWAULkL-bG0b_dEZqz3ltUalWE&dib_tag=se&keywords=spice+travels&qid=1785899199&s=books&sprefix=spice+travels%2Cstripbooks%2C219&sr=1-1 Herbie's Kitchen - Kate Hemphill's UK-based spice discovery tours and cooking classes https://herbieskitchen.com/ Herbies Spices - 120+ handcrafted blends, herbs and spices - find them online and in specialty stores https://www.herbies.com.au/ Keywords Ian Hemphill, Herbies Spices, Australian food podcast, herbs and spices, cooking with spices, spice expert Australia, spice blends, premium spices, chef podcast, food podcast Australia, lemon myrtle, wattleseed, ras el hanout, za'atar, asafoetida, ajwain, seasoning, flavour, Lucy Allon, Australian ingredients, Tawnya Bahr, Straight To The Source. Connect with Ian Hemphill LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-hemphill-989a2a101/ Herbie's SpicesOfficial website: https://www.herbies.com.au/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HerbiesSpices Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/herbiesspices/ YouTube: Herbie's Spices https://www.youtube.com/@HerbiesSpices Kate McIntosh, Ian's daughter and co-author of How to Add Flavor, also shares recipes and flavour education through: https://www.herbies.com.au/herbies-blog/ About Straight To The Source Straight To The Source brings you closer to the chefs, producers, growers and makers across the entire food chain, the people shaping where food is headed and why it matters. Hosted by food experts Tawnya Bahr and Lucy Allon. Follow, rate and review Straight To The Source to help more people discover the stories shaping Australia's food and hospitality industry. 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