The Crypto Conversation

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Brave New Coin's Crypto Conversation talks to the key people creating the Bitcoin, blockchain, and cryptocurrency future. Hosted by Andy Pickering, learn how this rapidly evolving industry is reshaping the world as we move towards decentralized finance, NFTs and Web3.

  1. 11 HRS AGO

    Solayer – Hardware Accelerated Finance at the Speed of Metal

    Joshua Sum is the Chief Product Officer at Solayer, a hardware accelerated network built to move money at the speed of metal. Joshua joins Andy Pickering to explain how dedicated chip-level infrastructure is pushing blockchain throughput into territory no software-only chain can reach — and why that matters as payments, AI agents, and real-world asset tokenization all converge on the same rails. Why you should listen Joshua's path to crypto ran through direct-to-consumer e-commerce, a founding quant role at Treehouse, and building CollegeDow into the largest university blockchain network in the world, spanning around 120 campuses globally. He joined Solayer as a founding engineer and has grown with the company over two years into his current role leading product across multiple lines. He walks through how Solayer evolved from pioneering restaking on Solana — using it as a tool to improve transaction reliability and throughput — into building a full hardware accelerated Layer 1 that uses the Solana Virtual Machine but separates consensus across dedicated machines connected by low-latency, high-bandwidth equipment. The result is battle-tested performance of 200,000 to 300,000 transactions per second using messy, real-world transaction types, not the synthetic benchmarks that get loosely thrown around in the space. The conversation covers Solayer's $35 million ecosystem fund and why the team deliberately avoided a grants model in favour of a venture approach, investing in founders building sustainable, revenue-generating businesses rather than handing out free money for narrative-driven experiments. Joshua walks through three early-stage portfolio projects: Docs Exchange, a full-suite DeFi trading platform; BuffTrade, an AI agent launchpad where bots trade on your behalf and back their tokens with actual strategy performance; and SpoutFi, which tokenizes equities and lets users borrow against them the way high-net-worth individuals already do — without selling, and without triggering a tax event. Each use case maps directly back to the throughput thesis: more agents, more users, more overlapping state means you need a chain that can actually handle the load. Joshua also breaks down Solayer's consumer-facing push through Solayer Pay, which includes a mobile app, rotating private addresses for peer-to-peer transfers, and the Emerald crypto card with built-in travel rewards and partner airdrops. He explains why the chain will launch with SOL as its gas token — removing the onboarding friction that kills adoption on new L1s — before introducing a dual-token model with LAYER as the ecosystem matures. The episode closes with Joshua's take on the current market: tough conditions are positive for the long term because they flush out narrative-driven projects and reward teams building real products with real revenue, which is exactly where Solayer wants to be. Supporting links Stabull Finance Solayer Solayer Explorer Solayer Docs Andy on X Brave New Coin on X Brave New Coin If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

    21 min

  2. 3 DAYS AGO

    UTEXO – Native USDT Comes Home to Bitcoin

    Viktor Ihnatiuk is the co-founder and CEO of UTEXO, a Tether-backed global settlement network for native USDT and Bitcoin payments, powered by the Lightning Network and the RGB protocol. Viktor joins Andy Pickering to walk through a decade-long journey from Ukrainian fintech to the frontline of Bitcoin infrastructure — and to explain why the world's biggest stablecoin is finally coming back to the chain where it was born. Why you should listen Viktor traces his path from launching Ukraine's first peer-to-peer lending platform and first fintech conference — where he discovered Bitcoin in 2015 — through to building Boosty Labs, a 150-person dev shop that served Coinbase, Bitfinex, Ledger, MetaMask, and WalletConnect. That operation evolved into a venture studio, and a chance meeting with Tether at Bitcoin Prague in 2023 set the stage for what became UTEXO. Viktor explains how he helped push RGB to mainnet, and how a joint venture with Tether was rebranded into UTEXO, which has just closed a $7.5 million seed round co-led by Tether, Big Brain Holdings, and Plan B Ventures. The conversation digs into what UTEXO actually delivers: instant USDT and Bitcoin settlement at zero transaction cost, with client-side validation privacy baked in through RGB. Viktor breaks down why this isn't USDT arriving on Bitcoin for the first time — it originally launched on OmniLayer back in 2014 — but rather coming home, rebuilt on infrastructure that finally works. He makes the case that Lightning's scalability leaves every other chain behind, and walks through the key use cases UTEXO is targeting: native BTC-to-USDT swaps, new revenue models for wallets through transaction fee monetization, and cross-exchange high-frequency arbitrage. Viktor also lays out UTEXO's broader thesis on stablecoin adoption and payments. He argues that the biggest growth opportunity for stablecoins isn't in DeFi yield — it's in emerging markets where USDT already functions as everyday money for savings, remittances, and increasingly, point-of-sale payments. UTEXO is positioning itself as the infrastructure layer for that shift, working alongside partners like WalletConnect and aligning closely with Tether's distribution strategy. The episode closes with Viktor's take on what blockchain is actually good for — payments, trading, and gambling — and why ten years in the trenches taught him to ignore everything else. Supporting links Stabull Finance UTEXO Andy on Twitter  Brave New Coin on Twitter Brave New Coin   If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

    29 min

  3. 25 FEB

    Open Frontier - The Coalition for Fair Crypto

    Open Frontier Executive Director Erik Balsbaugh and board member Amanda Wick join Andy Pickering for a wide-ranging conversation on crypto, politics, and the future of digital finance. The discussion explores why digital assets are too important to be left to partisan trench warfare, and why the real promise of crypto has less to do with speculation and more to do with reducing fees, expanding access, and breaking the grip of extractive financial intermediaries. Erik and Amanda make the case that this is ultimately a fight about fairness, affordability, and who the financial system is built to serve. Why you should listen Erik lays out the mission behind Open Frontier: to ensure progressive and broader public-interest voices stay engaged in shaping digital asset policy before the space is captured by incumbents and centralized financial power. He argues that crypto and fintech can help restore finance to everyday people by lowering remittance costs, reducing predatory fees, and enabling more transparent, accountable financial flows. Rather than letting digital assets become just another tool for concentrated institutions, Open Frontier wants to push for a democratic financial future—one where the benefits of innovation reach workers, immigrants, nonprofits, and small businesses, not just insiders and early winners. Amanda brings hard-earned perspective from the Department of Justice, FinCEN, Chainalysis, and Capitol Hill, and offers one of the episode's sharpest reframes: crypto doesn't uniquely create crime—it makes financial activity more visible. She argues that much of the outrage around crypto crime reflects a visibility problem, not a new crime problem, noting that scams, laundering, and illicit finance long predate blockchain. What changed is that crypto put more of it in plain sight. She also takes aim at the media and political tendency to reduce the entire sector to meme coins and scandals, while ignoring the less flashy but genuinely transformative use cases: stablecoins, cheaper cross-border payments, tokenization, digital identity, and financial infrastructure that can return value to consumers instead of extracting it. The conversation closes on the geopolitical and ethical stakes of the current moment. Amanda warns that stablecoins are becoming a major global channel for dollar access, and that U.S. policymakers risk undermining dollar influence if they fail to regulate intelligently and stay competitive while other jurisdictions move faster. At the same time, both guests address the reputational damage caused by political grift and conflicts of interest in crypto, stressing that corruption should be treated as a governance and ethics problem—not as evidence that the underlying technology should be discarded. Amanda ends with a broader call that goes beyond left versus right: in a world increasingly split between the haves and the have-nots, digital assets may be one of the few tools capable of shifting structural power in finance—if people pay attention before the opportunity is lost. Supporting links Stabull Finance Open Frontier Andy on Twitter  Brave New Coin on Twitter Brave New Coin If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

    34 min

  4. 8 FEB

    Transak - The Crypto On-Ramp

    Andy Werner is VP of Partnerships and Strategy at Transak, one of the world's leading fiat-to-crypto on-ramp providers. Werner shares his journey through fintech — from big banks to startups — and explains how Transak is building the compliance and payments infrastructure that quietly powers hundreds of crypto platforms globally. While the company operates in what he jokingly calls the "boring" side of crypto, Werner argues that boring is exactly what payments infrastructure should be: seamless, reliable, and invisible to the end user. Why you should listen The conversation dives deep into the evolving role of stablecoins, which Werner frames not as ideological crypto instruments but as practical tools for builders. For developers and businesses, stablecoins function like programmable payment rails — enabling instant settlement, global reach, and lower costs through a single integration. He points to the past 18–24 months as a turning point, driven by clearer regulation in the U.S. and frameworks like MiCA in Europe. This regulatory momentum, combined with improving UX abstraction around wallets and compliance, is accelerating enterprise adoption and opening new product categories. Werner also reflects on stablecoin usage through the lens of his Argentine roots, where inflation and currency instability make the value proposition immediately obvious. In markets across Latin America, Africa, and parts of Asia, dollar-backed stablecoins act as a digital escape hatch — giving consumers access to dollar savings, payments, and yield via nothing more than a smartphone. From remittances to trade finance and cross-border payroll, these real-world use cases are driving rapid growth. Transak is already seeing 30–40% of its volume in stablecoins, a figure Werner expects to exceed 50% — possibly 75% — within a year as adoption shifts from speculative crypto assets to everyday financial flows. The discussion closes on regulation and the future of financial services. Werner is strongly in favor of pending U.S. stablecoin legislation, particularly provisions that would allow issuers to pass yield to users — arguing competition with banks ultimately benefits consumers. Looking ahead, his conviction is clear: all financial services will migrate on-chain. His hot takes? He's 90% Bitcoin maximalist, believes everything will eventually run on blockchain rails, and expects AI — still under-adopted today — to unleash massive productivity gains. His sci-fi pick to wrap it all up: Foundation by Isaac Asimov — a fitting nod to long-range technological inevitability. Supporting links Stabull Finance Transak Andy on Twitter  Brave New Coin on Twitter Brave New Coin   If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

    24 min

  5. 29 JAN

    Veera - The OnChain Neobank

    Andy sits down with SB, CEO and co-founder of Veera, to unpack a bold attempt at one of crypto's oldest and most stubborn problems: making it usable for normal people. From launching BlackBerrys and building early mobile ad tech, to challenging Netflix with an Asian streaming platform and exiting a travel startup, SB's winding entrepreneurial path now lands squarely in on-chain finance. The conversation traces how Veera is positioning itself as a true crypto neobank — not just a wallet with a card — and why user experience, not yield or hype, will decide whether crypto ever really breaks into the mainstream. Why you should listen SB starts by framing Veera as a product-led response to crypto's stalled adoption curve. Despite hundreds of millions of internet users globally, crypto still lives in the "tens of millions" club, largely because it's too complex for everyday users. Veera's core idea is simple but ambitious: your mother should be able to swap tokens, stake assets, or move funds without knowing what a bridge, seed phrase, or protocol is. That philosophy has driven Veera's focus on passkeys instead of seed phrases, simplified onboarding, and heavy use of abstraction to hide blockchain complexity behind familiar, intuitive design. SB positions himself as a "fresh eyes" builder in Web3 — someone who didn't grow up native to crypto and therefore isn't blind to how broken the experience still is. Geographically, Veera is betting on the same adoption arc the internet followed: emerging markets first, then deeper penetration in developed economies. SB points to Latin America, parts of Asia, Africa, and the Middle East as the next major growth zones, where access to global financial products is still limited. From there, he lays out Veera's four-pillar model: Invest, Earn, Spend, and Borrow. That includes tokenized gold, upcoming tokenized equities for users who've never had realistic access to global stocks, multi-chain yield in a single interface, a crypto prepaid card with tens of thousands already waitlisted, and a longer-term push into on-chain lending using financial identity and credit scoring. The pitch is clear: a full-stack, crypto-native bank rather than a TradFi app with a blockchain sticker slapped on top. The conversation closes on the bigger picture — institutional capital, regulation, and what actually moves the needle for mass adoption. SB sees the market maturing, citing massive liquidation events that no longer crash the system as a sign of growing resilience and institutional presence. But for consumers, he's blunt: UX is still the real bottleneck. Yields exist, volatility is slowly compressing, but the experience remains "so, so broken." In the rapid-fire hot take round, he plants his flag as a multi-chain opportunist, calls Ethereum his firmest conviction, and predicts stablecoins will become the basic financial rails of the next decade. It's a forward-looking, product-first take on a future where on-chain finance doesn't feel like crypto anymore — it just feels like money. Supporting links Stabull Finance Veera Andy on Twitter  Brave New Coin on Twitter Brave New Coin If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

    21 min

  6. 20 JAN

    New Book - The Intelligent Crypto Investor

    John Hargrave, CEO of Media Shower and author of The Intelligent Crypto Investor, joins the show to unpack a radically calm, Buffett-inspired approach to crypto investing. From wiring money to Belarus to buy Bitcoin in 2013 to nearly losing his business in the 2018 crypto winter, John shares how hard-earned wisdom led him to a disciplined, diversified strategy that blends traditional assets with a carefully sized slice of high-quality crypto — and why this model has quietly outperformed traditional portfolios over the past several years. Why you should listen John traces his origin story from early Bitcoin believer to battle-tested investor, recounting the moment he and his wife went "all in" on crypto during the 2017 bull run — and the brutal reality check that followed when the market collapsed. That near-death experience for his marketing business reshaped his philosophy around risk, leading him to embrace diversification over maximalism. The result: a framework that treats crypto not as a lottery ticket or ideological crusade, but as a serious asset class that earns its place alongside stocks and bonds. At the core of John's book is a simple but contrarian portfolio model: a traditional 60/30-style mix of stocks and bonds, plus up to 10% allocated to high-quality crypto assets like Bitcoin and Ethereum. He argues this small slice has historically captured outsized upside while strictly limiting downside risk — even in worst-case scenarios. John also takes aim at financial advisors for being "a decade behind," suggesting everyday investors can now build and manage this strategy themselves with the right tools and long-term mindset. Beyond numbers, John brings storytelling and big ideas into the mix, drawing inspiration from legendary investors like Warren Buffett, Ben Graham, and Bill Miller to apply value-investing principles to blockchain projects. He shares his bold conviction that crypto and AI represent unevenly distributed futures — and that a global digital currency is not a question of "if," but "when." The conversation closes on sci-fi, Asimov, and the long arc of technological change, framing crypto not just as an investment, but as a bet on the architecture of tomorrow's financial system. Supporting links Stabull Finance New Book - The Intelligent Crypto Investor Andy on Twitter  Brave New Coin on Twitter Brave New Coin If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

    25 min

  7. 8 JAN

    OpenTrade - Stablecoin Infra & Yield for Financial Services

    Andy sits down with Dave Sutter, CEO and co-founder of OpenTrade, to unpack why stablecoins are rapidly becoming the most important financial primitive in crypto — and arguably the missing link between digital assets and traditional finance. Why you should listen Dave traces his journey from building early Bitcoin wallets and launching one of the first dollar-backed stablecoins, through years working with major regulated institutions, to founding OpenTrade in 2023. His core thesis is simple but bold: stablecoins are no longer a niche crypto product — they are evolving into internet-native dollars used by hundreds of millions of people worldwide for real payments, savings, and cross-border commerce The conversation dives deep into OpenTrade's role as institutional-grade "yield-as-a-service" infrastructure for stablecoins, enabling fintechs, neobanks, and platforms to embed yield directly into their apps without building complex financial plumbing themselves. Dave explains how OpenTrade allows users to earn yield across a wide spectrum — from ultra-safe U.S. Treasuries and money market funds, through higher-yield bonds and private credit, to delta-neutral crypto strategies and curated DeFi markets — all while keeping funds liquid and accessible. This shift, he argues, flips the old crypto narrative on its head: stablecoins are no longer just a parking spot between trades, but a competitive alternative to bank savings accounts that offer better yields with fully reserved, transparent structures. Zooming out, Dave makes the case that stablecoins are not just a technological upgrade but a reinvention of money itself — permissionless digital cash that anyone with an internet connection can hold, move, and earn on. He points to growing regulatory clarity, adoption by giants like Visa, PayPal, and Stripe, and even banking lobby warnings about deposit flight as evidence of how disruptive this shift really is. His bold conviction: stablecoin market capitalization will exceed $10 trillion within the next decade. The episode wraps with rapid-fire hot takes on Bitcoin vs multi-chain futures, the convergence of DeFi and real-world finance, and a shared love of science fiction — fitting for a conversation about a financial future that, as Dave puts it, is already here but not evenly distributed. Supporting links Stabull Finance OpenTrade Andy on Twitter  Brave New Coin on Twitter Brave New Coin   If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

    27 min

  8. 6 JAN

    SecondSwap - The Dex For Locked Tokens

    Andy sits down with Kanny Lee, CEO and co-founder of SecondSwap, to explore one of crypto's most under-discussed structural problems: liquidity for locked and vested tokens. With a background spanning two decades in Big Four forensic accounting and early institutional crypto OTC trading in Hong Kong, Kanny brings a rare blend of TradFi discipline and on-chain realism to the conversation. Why you should listen Kanny explains why crypto's evolution now demands proper secondary market infrastructure—something traditional finance has always relied on, but Web3 has largely ignored. SecondSwap is building a decentralized, on-chain marketplace that allows locked token positions to be traded without breaking vesting schedules, inflating supply, or undermining token integrity. By operating directly at the smart-contract layer, SecondSwap enables partial exits, discounted entry for new investors, and real liquidity where none previously existed. The discussion digs into "mid-life markets," token dump cycles, and the difference between superficial liquidity driven by short-term speculation versus sustainable liquidity built on conviction and patience. Kanny makes the case that healthy secondary markets could be a missing piece behind the stalled altcoin cycle—and that better liquidity design benefits founders, early investors, and new entrants alike. The conversation wraps with rapid-fire hot takes on Bitcoin maximalism, real-world assets, AI, privacy chains, and whether another alt season is still possible.  Supporting links Stabull Finance SecondSwap Andy on Twitter  Brave New Coin on Twitter Brave New Coin   If you enjoyed the show please subscribe to the Crypto Conversation and give us a 5-star rating and a positive review in whatever podcast app you are using.

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Brave New Coin's Crypto Conversation talks to the key people creating the Bitcoin, blockchain, and cryptocurrency future. Hosted by Andy Pickering, learn how this rapidly evolving industry is reshaping the world as we move towards decentralized finance, NFTs and Web3.

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