6 episodes

A five-part podcast hosted by Susie Ferguson, covering an issue most of us find hard to think about, let alone discuss - the loss of a baby.

The Unthinkable RNZ Originals

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.8 • 64 Ratings

A five-part podcast hosted by Susie Ferguson, covering an issue most of us find hard to think about, let alone discuss - the loss of a baby.

    E5: Ralph

    E5: Ralph

    Almost exactly a year after the birth and death of their first daughter, Wren, Kate Gudsell and Sam Arcus welcome Ralph into their family.

    • 39 min
    E4: Frida

    E4: Frida

    Kate and Sam are pregnant again. Another girl. But this pregnancy comes with all the baggage from the first.
    In this episode, Kate and Sam prepare for the arrival of Frida

    • 38 min
    E3: How do you go on?

    E3: How do you go on?

    How do you go on after you've lost a child? Kate and Sam and three other mum's who also lost babies describe different grieving processes, the deep lows and the things that lightened the burden.

    • 37 min
    E2: A Father's Grief

    E2: A Father's Grief

    Kate and Sam lost their beautiful baby girl, Wren just six days after she was born. Their grief is shared, but their experiences quite different.
    This episode covers the loss of a baby through a father's eyes.

    • 35 min
    E1: The Thunderstorm

    E1: The Thunderstorm

    Kate Gudsell and Sam Arcus had a trouble-free pregnancy, but a thunderstorm was quite literally brewing as Kate went into labour. This is a very personal story of grief and loss, but most importantly, love.

    • 31 min
    Trailer: The Unthinkable

    Trailer: The Unthinkable

    The Unthinkable is a new podcast series by Susie Ferguson, which opens the door on an issue that affects hundreds of families every year, and yet we struggle to speak about it.

    • 3 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
64 Ratings

64 Ratings

ChristiElg ,

Thank you

Thank you for sharing your incredible experience. I cried, giggled and could feel your emotions of everything you went through. Going through grief myself (not loss of child but sibling), it gave me a little insight of how you handled your loss. Kate & Sam - all the best to you and your beautiful family - it was a privilege to hear your story.

Debster20 ,

Things to learn

I was astounded by the stats for both the babies dying and the road toll. I am in awe of the bravery of Kate and Sam - and all the others and I’ve known others myself. Mostly l loved hearing the things we can learn about death, dying, grief and Whanau from Maori. This was the best part, so human and without the stiff upper lip of Pakeha culture.

r0l1e ,

Thank you

Thank you for sharing your inner most thoughts, feelings and experiences. So brave of you to do so. I laughed at the surprisingly light moments and cried my way through imagining your pain, terror and sorrow. This is so important and more stories need to be shared so we can all have a better understanding.

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