Two or Three Gathered

Jared Grant, Caleb Zwaadjik & Christine Welten

“Two or Three Gathered” is a series of conversations with Christian brothers and sisters, considering their efforts and contributions to the Kingdom vocationally, their stories and testimonies of God’s sovereignty and grace, and an opportunity to tackle the relevant issues the church faces in the 21st century.

  1. 21/10/2023

    Ep#045 - Interview with Dr Jacqueline Lloyd

    Kia Ora Twos and Threes Today we share the interview with the brilliant Dr Jacqueline Lloyd on the topics of her testimony, her vocational ministry (which is rich, tapestried, and enthralling), and her opinions regarding “Christians and the need for higher learning in Christ’s Body: • Doctorate on ‘The Itinerant Ministry of Jesus of Nazareth as archaeological verifiable by the Gospel of Mark” • Theological Consultant to a variety of Educational Institutions: NZCPT, Laidlaw College, Carey Baptist College, Otago University, YWAM etc • Teacher of over 20+ years experience, from New Entrant to Upper Tertiary • Experience in a series of Archaeological Digs/excavations in the Holy Land • Involved in Church Planting in UK, associated with the Vineyard Churches For the wealth of experience and wisdom this woman possesses, she is profoundly accessible and quintessentially a teacher. Given the similar outworked theme of teaching in her life and service is Jesus’ Kingdom, she possesses an uncanny knack for adjusting the complexity and translation of her ideas; this is something I have come to appreciate having seen her teach in a number of the contexts listed above. It is truly wonderful to see how this sister has been used by our Lord so interestingly in any variety of contexts to equip the saints towards a greater love of Jesus via the use of their minds in worship. With a good mix of anecdote and academic discussion, this is a cast I know you will be blessed for viewing. Sola Deo Gloria, The 2s & 3s Team __________________________________________ Professional Links: ·       Laidlaw College- Snr Research Fellow, Snr Lecturer: ·       https://www.laidlaw.ac.nz/staff/jacqueline-lloyd/ ·       New Zealand Christian Proprietor’s Trust- “Special Character” Coordinator/Theological Consultant: ·       https://www.nzcpt.nz/special-character-coordinator ·       LinkedIn- Summary of her Professional Expertise: ·       https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacqui-lloyd-2b6259143/?originalSubdomain=nz Links to her Thesis: ·       Otago University: https://ourarchive.otago.ac.nz/handle/10523/7675 ·       Mohr Siebeck: Academic Publishing: Archaeology and the Itinerant Jesus 978-3-16-159347-5 - Mohr Siebeck __________________________________________ Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513... Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered _________________________________________

    1h 56m
  2. 23/08/2023

    Ep#044 - Interview w. Luke Collis

    Good day to you 2s & 3s, In this cast we had the opportunity to interview the remarkable Luke Collis, a NZ based Evangelist who spearheads the God anointed idea for the ministry “UNASHAMED.” It is phenomenal how God is blessing this enterprise, developing their capacity and enlarging their vision a step at a time. But Luke himself is very humble in his wisdom, heartfelt in his love for young people, and hypersensitive to situations and circumstances to where the Gospel can be authentically and accessibly preached. He was a delight to talk to, and will no doubt endear himself to our listeners • Youth Pastoral work in Various North Island Churches over 10+ years • Evangelism Consultant to a number of Churches • Visionary and Lead Speaker for UNASHAMED The cast is one part stories, another part theological and another part constructively critical of the NZ Church’s task of spreading the Good News in our blessed country. There is a clear sense of God’s leading and equipping in the ministry of this brother in Christ, and my hope is that you will have yet another opportunity to praise God for his faithfulness and providence in people like Luke. If this cast is anything to go by, Generation Z are hungry for Jesus and the context is prime for the Gospel to be shared. God bless and keep you, The 2’s & 3’s Team _______________________________________________ Authentic Men's Magazine- "Unashamed of the Gospel" - https://authenticmagazine.co.nz/unash... The Daily Examiner - "Christian Leader calls out New Zealand Churches" - https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/ch... "Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word -    • "Hey Pastor" || Spoken Word   Luke's Plug- Worldwide Mission Organization, "Steiger:" https://www.steiger.org/about-us UNASHAMED: Links for Contact/Connection: Website: https://www.unashamed.nz/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unashamedNZ Youtube:    / @ucfn8ltjgp2j00h_u92tcmvq   Luke Collis himself: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?... Apply for the Evangelism Boot Camps! https://www.unashamed.nz/training-camp/ _______________________________________________ Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513... Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered _______________________________________________

    1h 48m
  3. 25/07/2023

    Ep#043 - Interview w. A.J. Hendry

    Kia Ora Twos and Threes, In this episode, we had the wonderful privilege of sitting down to chat with the mighty AJ Hendry: AJ is a former Laidlaw Bachelor of Theology graduate, Husband to Summer Hendry, Father to Wesley, Martin, Lewis and proud ‘Westie’ in the Auckland Context. • He is a passionate, pragmatic faith-motivated advocate of a variety of Social Justice Causes causes including Youth Wellbeing, Homelessness and Mental Health. • His interests also intersect with matters of Politics, Christian culture, and best practice for Youth Work. His roles (past/present) include working for Manaki Rangtahi, Lifewise Youth Housing Leader, Massey Community Trust Board member which includes recent work as Collaborator on the ‘Safety Net Project’. • He has spoken publically in a range of settings - Media, Politics, Radio, Council, Churches, TV, Podcasts, Community Gatherings, ( via the likes of TVNZ, the AM Show, Newstalk ZB, RNZ, and various West Auckland settings) and writes regularly via his letterheads “When Lambs are Silent” & more recently “Letters from the Revolution.” • Articles from these sites have been shared by the NZ Herald, Newsroom and Stuff on a national level. In all of these settings, the man presents humbly and accessibly but with evident zeal to achieve better than before for our rangatahi (the younger generation) in Aotearoa. His discipline of work and self directed study has seen him emerge with a valued contrasting voice on matters which have been typically very polarized. We hope you are blessed by the conversation Sola Deo Gloria, - J. C. T. & C. _______________________________________________ His official FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/aejayhendry His Letter Handles/Blog Sites: https://revolutionletters.substack.com/ https://whenlambsaresilent.wordpress.... The Youth Activism Spaces he works in: https://www.facebook.com/thesafetynet... https://www.facebook.com/manaakiranga... https://www.lifewise.org.nz/our-servi... Media Interactions ( a sampling): - 1 News – Lifewise: Youth Housing Leader: https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/01/hu... - Newstalk ZB – Youth Development Worker: https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/h... - Newshub - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi... - Youth Advocate - https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politi... Articles written for National News Media: Newsroom - https://www.newsroom.co.nz/climate-ju... NZ Herald - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/aaron-h... Stuff.co.nz - https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/13098... Podcasts and Radio - His own: https://wlas.substack.com/podcast?fbc... - Real Life with John Cowan (Newstalk ZB): https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450... - The Honest Theology Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ooN... _______________________________________________ Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513... Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered _______________________________________________

    1h 28m
  4. 29/01/2023

    Ep#040 - Interview w. James Andrew Harris

    To our blessed listeners, Thank you for listening to us in 2023- We kick of the year with the profound delight of interviewing “James Andrew Harris:” • Former World Vision NZ Community Engagement Manager ( Also worked for WV in  Jordan, Middle East & Nauru, Australia) • Former “Zeal” NZ Wellington Manager (and other locations) with wife Jenna • Now, Youth Worker in Aboriginal Community Belgo ,WA • YouthWork WA 2021 Youth Work Awards Finalist • Anglicare New Role in 2022: “Mobilsing Churches for Social Action across Australia” • Advocate for Refugee Release from Nauru in Australia, World Vision Forum contacting Jacinda to ensure Nauru Refugees given sanctions James is someone I can say genuinely walks and talks his walk with Christ. His heart for “the least of these” is equally challenging and inviting and evident in everything he does. More than just professionally, he and his wife Jenna do all that they do with a devout sense of missional worship.  Whether its discussing the merits of various Hardcore bands, Sneaky ninja brewskis with politicians live on air (see below), ‘Zines’ written about times in Palestine and its ‘Other Wailing Wall’ or Open letters to Mai FM about Loansharks; you will see through his insights why we are inspired by this man’s humble but steadfast devotion to Christ. Sola Deo Gloria, - The 2s & 3’s Team  _______________________________________________ Youth Ministry Misfits Podcast –  https://anchor.fm/tim-mullen/episodes... Down to Earth Conversations (Podcast) - https://www.downtoearthconversations.... Open Letter to Tony Abbot re: Australian Nauru Refugees /Asylum Seekers - https://jamesharris460.wordpress.com/... Loan Shark Video - Open Letter to Mai FM: https://www.facebook.com/jamesandrewh... "The Other Wailing Wall" Zine: https://www.facebook.com/events/82172... (Now sold out) https://changeco.bigcartel.com/produc... Newshub Live Conversation feat. Patrick Gower (James ninjas a livestream to talk politics - skip to 16 minutes in): https://www.facebook.com/NewshubNZ/vi... “The Voyage” Band Member (Once upon a time): https://www.facebook.com/TheVoyageHC Youth Work WA 2021 YW Awards Finalist: https://www.facebook.com/YouthWorkWA/... (Crediting - among other things - his co-founding of “Youthwork.io” https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...) _______________________________________________  Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513...  Listen to us via your preferred podcast platform: https://anchor.fm/two-or-three-gathered  _______________________________________________

    1h 40m
  5. 28/10/2022

    Ep#039 - Movies that Messed Us Up (Pt 2.)

    Kia Ora Koutou 2’s and 3’s!  In this fun-but-rambling conversation, we revisit a format we debuted in #013 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-PGE...) with the mighty Andrew Denton (https://www.facebook.com/andrew.mclac...) , where in this installment all the hosts share 3 movies that ‘messed us up’ in all the right ways and challenged us considering Christian Worldview: The Sunset Limited: A philosophical exploration of Nihilism vs Born Again Christianity  The Green Light: A story of a principled surgeon whose sacrificial ethics explore the realism of doing right even when it is at great cost  Midsommar: A dysfunctional couple travel to Sweden with friends for a Midsummer festival, only to find themselves trapped in the machinations of a Pagan Cult  This is also the 2nd we enjoy the company of our new cohost, “Tony Jee,” (https://justicejee.com/) a brilliant, Spirit-filled Christian who we look to introduce in part shortly to you all, and more in depth at a later date via his amazing God-glorifying testimony. We hope you give these a watch and have a laugh and listen as we seek to critique culture through a Christian lense. God bless you all!  - The 2’s & 3’s Team  _____________________________________________  The three films, for your viewing pleasure to be considered:  The Sunset Limited: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1510938/  The Green Light: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gree...  Midsommar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsommar  _____________________________________________  Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513...  Watch us on Youtube! : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpwwjA5rMQiZ3Ru3gsjm6xw/videos _____________________________________________

    1h 23m
  6. 05/10/2022

    Ep#038 - Sex: Before/During/After Marriage (Pt 2)

    Hello again 2’s and 3’s In this 2nd part installment, while reiterating some points from part 1 we seek to 1) clarify more Biblical Theology with regards to Sex and Marriage, 2) Go into some aspects in greater depth (particularly concerning the “After Marriage angle”) and 3) use Parts 1 & 2 to then Q & A around some questions we believe Christian couples may have wondered about in the intersection between faith and sexuality, but have felt they have come up short in terms of direction. We thank Christine again for her wisdom, accessibility, transparency, candour and compassion with which she speaks on this subject. Her ever pastoral heart is a glimpse of God’s heart in her to see people know His will for their lives.  We hope you enjoy this and find it useful, - J. _______________________________________________ Check us out on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/85513... View us on Youtube!  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpwwjA5rMQiZ3Ru3gsjm6xw _______________________________________________ Some valuable sources that further unpack/support Biblical approaches to Sex: C.J. Mahaney - "Sex, Romance and the Glory of God: " https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/sho... Matt Chandler (w Jared C Wilson) - " The Mingling of Souls:" https://www.koorong.com/product/the-m... Dr Sean Mcdowell interviews Nancey Pearcey et al: "How Protestants are waking up to a theology of the Body:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkTQ... Family First: The Harms of Pornography - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ4L... TED ED: Escaping Porn Addiction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbYWK... Ask Pastor John (Piper, of Desiring God)- "Is Oral Sex Okay?" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzimK... The Paradox Institute - Sex and Gender explored scientifically: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list... Your Brain on Porn (Christine recommends the book these videos are sourced from): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6gk4... Jubilee Videos: Is the Idea of Virginity outdated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQnS... Do all virgins think the same? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMlI7... Should you have sex before marriage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKXfk... Dr Preston Sprinkle: "Dear Church - Im Gay:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_0A... Unbelievable? Transgenderism and the Church: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aNz4... Unbelievable? Side A and Side B Christians converse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMsv6... _______________________________________________

    1h 25m

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“Two or Three Gathered” is a series of conversations with Christian brothers and sisters, considering their efforts and contributions to the Kingdom vocationally, their stories and testimonies of God’s sovereignty and grace, and an opportunity to tackle the relevant issues the church faces in the 21st century.