Upside

This Way Up

Welcome to Upside, a limited series podcast for brand owners, brand managers and the digitally curious. In each episode we'll be sharing insights and strategies that have helped us and over 100 brands grow to dominate the online marketplace. We'll dive into the most common questions we get from founders, explore the nuances of consumer behaviour and reveal our formula for success. Whether you’re a seasoned brand manager or just starting out, tune in for bite sized insights and practical advice to help you thrive in the digital world. So join us on this journey, avoid common pitfalls and learn what it takes to win in todays competitive marketplaces. Lets get started and make the most of the Upside.

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    Middle East Conflict: Are Supply Chains Under Pressure Again? | Upside #77

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeN7rpkudA_T0IALgGdc5Kw91OceonqYwjnLueNj3fE9miGug/viewform?usp=sharing&ouid=116429926230531111521 Episode SummaryIn this episode of Upside, Ali and Zamir address the renewed pressure on global supply chains caused by escalating tensions in the Gulf. While the conversation acknowledges the human and regional impact of the situation, the focus remains on what businesses can practically do to protect themselves from disruption. The discussion explores how geopolitical events can expose weaknesses in supply chains, particularly for companies manufacturing in Asia and shipping goods into Europe. Ali reflects on lessons learned during the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic, highlighting how easy it is to underestimate early warning signs of disruption. The key takeaway is that businesses should always be asking one simple question: how could this affect my supply chain, and what can I do now to mitigate the risk? The hosts also examine how similar events have affected global trade in the past, from the Ever Given blockage in the Suez Canal to piracy concerns off the coast of East Africa. These events demonstrate how quickly shipping routes, transit times, and costs can change. If tensions persist, businesses may face rising oil prices and longer shipping times as vessels are forced to take alternative routes. Rather than reacting impulsively, the conversation emphasises the importance of measured, strategic responses. Short-term fixes are often limited, but these disruptions provide valuable signals that businesses should use to strengthen their operations. This could include building more resilient supply chains, diversifying product ranges, or selling across multiple markets to reduce exposure to regional disruptions. The episode also discusses the challenge of diversifying manufacturing locations. While sourcing outside China has become a common strategy in recent years, Ali notes that China’s manufacturing infrastructure remains difficult to replicate in many sectors. As a result, businesses may find it easier to diversify product categories or supplier relationships rather than completely relocating production. Ultimately, the key message of the episode is that disruptions are inevitable. Businesses that survive and grow are those that treat these events as signals to build resilience rather than reacting with panic. Key TakeawaysGeopolitical events can expose hidden vulnerabilities in global supply chains.Disruptions affecting shipping routes may lead to increased costs and longer delivery times.Businesses should avoid knee-jerk reactions and instead focus on measured, strategic responses.Diversifying suppliers, product ranges, or markets can help hedge against regional disruptions.China remains difficult to replace as a manufacturing hub, so diversification strategies may need to focus elsewhere.Long-term resilience comes from building redundancy into supply chains and business operations.

    12 min
  2. 4 MAR

    We Answered Real Amazon Seller Problems (Amazon Clinic) | Upside #76

    In this episode of Upside, Ali and Zamir open the E-commerce Clinic to tackle real questions from sellers facing everyday Amazon challenges. From account access issues to advertising performance and disappearing listings, the team works through practical problems submitted by listeners and breaks down how to diagnose and fix them. What’s Covered in This EpisodeThe episode kicks off with a common but frustrating problem: getting locked out of Seller Central after changing the phone number linked to two-factor authentication. Ali and Zamir explain why this can happen and share a workaround many sellers overlook. Instead of relying solely on Seller Support, they suggest contacting Amazon through the customer account side, which often has more responsive support and can help restore access faster. They also highlight the importance of using an authenticator app rather than SMS codes as your primary two-factor authentication method. The discussion then moves into advertising performance and click-through rates. A listener asks why their campaigns are generating impressions and top-of-search placements but still producing a very low CTR. The team breaks the issue down into three areas: what customers see on the search results page, keyword relevance, and advertising settings. They emphasise that CTR is influenced by multiple factors including price, reviews, delivery promise, images, promotions, and status badges like Amazon’s Choice or Best Seller. They also discuss how bid adjustments can help increase top-of-search visibility, which ultimately improves the likelihood of getting clicks. Another listener asks about managing auto campaigns that generate strong revenue but relatively low CTR. The team explains how Amazon uses auto campaigns to distribute traffic across a wide range of search terms, often at lower CPCs. Rather than shutting them down, they recommend using auto campaigns as keyword discovery tools, while adding negatives to avoid overlap with manual campaigns. They also address the misconception around “good” CTR benchmarks, encouraging sellers to compare their performance against competitors using tools like Amazon Brand Analytics to understand market averages. Finally, the episode tackles a tricky situation where a product appears live and in stock in Vendor Central but does not show up in search results. Ali and Zamir walk through several potential causes including stock levels, delivery location settings, listing suppression, miscategorisation, missing images, or new listings that have not yet fully indexed. They recommend checking inventory availability, verifying postcode delivery settings, reviewing images and category placement, and consulting account health notifications before escalating to Vendor or Seller Support. Key TakeawaysTwo-factor authentication issues: Use Amazon customer support routes if Seller Support cannot resolve login problems.Use authenticator apps: SMS authentication can fail, especially when travelling.CTR depends on many factors: Price, reviews, images, delivery promises, and badges all influence clicks.Focus on relevance first: Broad keywords may generate impressions but not meaningful engagement.Auto campaigns are discovery tools: Use them to find keywords, then move strong performers into manual campaigns.Benchmark against your category: Market CTR averages vary widely by product type.Search visibility issues: Check stock levels, delivery location, category placement, images, and indexing delays. To submit your own question for a future E-commerce Clinic, check the link in the description and the team may tackle it in a future episode.

    17 min
  3. 25 FEB

    How Understanding People Built an E-Commerce Empire (With Umar Farooq Rana) | Upside #75

    In this episode of Upside, Ali and Zamir sit down with Umar to explore an extraordinary journey from engineering and telecommunications to building the foundations of Pakistan’s e-commerce ecosystem and now turning his focus towards human optimisation. From solving national-scale infrastructure problems to biohacking sleep and recovery, this conversation bridges technology, entrepreneurship, and performance in a way few episodes have. What’s Covered in This EpisodeThe episode opens with Umar’s origin story. Initially pushed into computer science despite a passion for psychology and biology, he eventually built a career spanning networking, telecommunications, SaaS, IoT museums, retail business intelligence systems, and foundational Shopify integrations in Pakistan. After early failures including an education ERP platform that collapsed due to market misalignment, Umar learned a critical lesson: build with the customer, not just for the solution. That pivot led to solving real merchant problems in payments, logistics, and infrastructure, effectively enabling Shopify to function locally. By 2019, his company had become the largest e-commerce technology service provider in the country. From there, the discussion moves into building: Ginko Omni Channel, launched just before COVID, which scaled rapidly as retailers were forced onlineUnum Pay, a unified payment system integrating multiple banks and BNPL into one platformThe philosophy of solving hard problems so well that marketing becomes unnecessary But the episode takes a deeper turn. Despite two decades in technology, Umar reveals his true passion has always been human potential. From being a national Wushu champion at 17 to coaching bodybuilding, his long-term fascination has been optimisation of the body and mind. Now, he is building a health optimisation platform combining: Wearable dataBlood biomarkersNutrition trackingMovement metricsAI-driven insights The goal is a unified system that helps people optimise recovery, performance, and longevity without needing constant clinical oversight. The final section becomes a masterclass in practical health optimisation, particularly for high-stress e-commerce operators. Key TakeawaysEntrepreneurship & GrowthSolve real problems: Focus on pain points, not product ideas.Test incrementally: Build in modules and validate early.Infrastructure wins long-term: Foundational systems create ecosystems.Marketing becomes easier when the problem is painful enough. Health & PerformanceSleep is the foundation: 9pm to 1am is peak recovery time.Carbohydrate reduction improves metabolic stability.Movement is essential, but walking is not exercise.Stress should peak in the morning, not the evening.Avoid screens and high cognitive load before sleep.Breathing techniques improve HRV and recovery.You do not need an alarm clock if your circadian rhythm is aligned. A powerful underlying message runs throughout the episode: We obsess over optimising ads, funnels, and conversions. But how often do we optimise ourselves? To access more insights on building sustainable online businesses and avoiding common pitfalls in the reselling world, visit https://thiswayup.online/resources.

    32 min
  4. 18 FEB

    Expert Digital Marketing and Growth Strategist (Rafay Raheel Head of Franchising, CUPP) | Upside #74

    In this episode of Upside, Ali and Zamir are joined by Rafay Raheel, Head of Franchising at CUPP, to unpack the real dynamics between Amazon advertising and the Meta-owned world. Think marketplace versus direct to consumer. Performance marketing versus platform-native growth. The conversation explores how these ecosystems differ, where brands go wrong, and how to build a strategy that connects both. What’s Covered in This Episode The episode opens with rapid fire questions that immediately set the tone. Rafay challenges founders to stop obsessing over traffic as a vanity metric and instead focus on conversion rate optimisation. The message is clear: driving more visitors to a page that does not convert is wasted budget. The discussion then moves into the structural differences between Amazon and owned platforms such as Meta, Google, and Shopify. Rafay explains why growth cannot operate in silos. Paid acquisition, landing page optimisation, retention flows, and lifecycle marketing must function as one connected system. A central theme is funnel integrity. If advertising is strong but the landing experience is weak, performance suffers. If customers convert but there is no retention mechanism in place, value leaks from the business. Rafay outlines how brands should think beyond acquisition and build proper systems for upsell, cross-sell, and repeat purchase. The team also explore the current state of digital channels, including why TikTok may be overestimated by some brands, and why AI will fundamentally reshape performance marketing in 2026. Rather than treating AI as hype, they frame it as an operational necessity that will influence targeting, automation, and creative output. Throughout the episode, the underlying message is consistent: whether operating on Amazon or through owned channels, sustainable growth comes from understanding the full customer journey and optimising every stage of it. Key Takeaways Traffic is not the objective: Conversion rate drives profitability.CRO is undervalued: Optimising what you already have often beats spending more.Funnels must be connected: Acquisition, experience, and retention are inseparable.Channel hype can mislead: Not every trending platform deserves budget.AI is not optional: Brands must prepare for automation-led marketing in 2026.Amazon and DTC can coexist: Integration, not competition, creates stronger growth. To access more insights on building sustainable online businesses and avoiding common pitfalls in the reselling world, visit https://thiswayup.online/resources.

    31 min
  5. 10 FEB

    Side Hustles, Trend Products, and Testing Fast | Upside #73

    In this episode of Upside, Ali pitches a series of low-risk business ideas designed to be tested quickly and launched with minimal upfront investment. From art kits to print-on-demand products, the conversation explores how aspiring entrepreneurs can capitalise on trends without overcommitting capital. What’s Covered in This Episode The episode centres around a set of creative business concepts aimed at individuals looking to launch something practical and scalable. Ali outlines several ideas that sit at the intersection of creativity and commerce, while Zamir and the team stress-test each one in real time. One standout concept is the ‘30 and 30 Art Kit’, inspired by the popular social media challenge where artists create 30 pieces in 30 days. The idea focuses on bundling essential supplies into a simple, ready-to-go kit targeted directly at that audience. The discussion covers sourcing, positioning, pricing, and how to reach niche communities through targeted advertising. The team also explore additional concepts including print-on-demand poster businesses, customisable colouring books, and even fruit moulding kits for decorative purposes. While some ideas are playful, the strategic theme remains consistent: test fast, validate quickly, and avoid heavy inventory risk. A core principle throughout the episode is speed. Rather than spending months perfecting an idea, the group advocate for rapid execution to gauge demand. In fast-moving markets, especially those driven by social media trends, agility is more valuable than perfection. The episode closes with a broader reflection on creative entrepreneurship, encouraging listeners to experiment with ideas, embrace iteration, and treat business like a series of tests rather than one big bet. Key Takeaways Low risk first: Test ideas without heavy inventory or major financial commitment.Trend awareness matters: Emerging social media movements can reveal untapped demand.Speed beats perfection: Launch quickly, gather feedback, and refine.Niche targeting works: Clear audience focus improves advertising efficiency.Creative businesses scale: Print-on-demand and kit models reduce overhead while maximising flexibility.Iterate constantly: Treat every idea as an experiment, not a finished product. To access more insights on building sustainable online businesses and avoiding common pitfalls in the reselling world, visit https://thiswayup.online/resources.

    19 min
  6. 3 FEB

    NEXT's Journey: From Catalog to Market Dominance | Upside #72

    In this episode of Upside, Ali and Zamir break down why Next continues to thrive while many legacy retailers struggle, using Argos as a point of contrast. They explore how long-term thinking, disciplined financial control, and deep ownership of brand and supply chain have allowed Next to grow steadily in an increasingly unforgiving retail environment. What’s Covered in This Episode Ali and Zamir begin by comparing the shared origins of Next and Argos as catalogue retailers, before unpacking how their strategies diverged over time. While both businesses faced similar market pressures, Next took a fundamentally different approach to planning, investment, and customer understanding. A central theme of the discussion is leadership. Under Simon Wolfson, Next adopted a disciplined, long-term mindset focused on financial control, infrastructure investment, and managing shareholder expectations. Ali and Zamir explain how this allowed the business to prioritise sustainable growth rather than short-term performance. The conversation then turns to ownership and control. Next’s end-to-end grip on its brand, supply chain, and inventory is highlighted as a major competitive advantage, particularly in fashion retail where speed, returns, and margin control are critical. This contrasts sharply with Argos, which struggled with flexibility and operational constraints. Ali and Zamir also examine Next’s customer-centric execution, from efficient returns and stock management to personalised marketing and range expansion that has evolved alongside its customer base. They discuss how early investment in infrastructure and technology positioned Next to respond quickly during key moments, including the shift in consumer behaviour during the pandemic. The episode closes with a broader reflection on what Next’s success teaches modern retailers. Clear strategy, long-term planning, and genuine customer understanding remain essential, even as channels and technologies continue to change. Key Takeaways Long-term thinking wins: Next prioritised sustainable growth over short-term financial cycles.Leadership matters: Simon Wolfson’s disciplined approach shaped culture, strategy, and execution.Control creates flexibility: Owning brand and supply chain enables faster, smarter decision-making.Infrastructure is an advantage: Early investment in systems and technology paid off during periods of disruption.Customer understanding drives growth: Next has grown alongside its customers, adapting ranges and experiences over time.Retail can still win: Traditional retailers can thrive if strategy, execution, and discipline align. To access more insights on building sustainable online businesses and avoiding common pitfalls in the reselling world, visit https://thiswayup.online/resources.

    20 min
  7. 27 JAN

    Understanding Your Brand: The Key to E-Commerce Success (with Dax Dupré) | Upside #71

    In this episode of Upside, Ali and Zamir sit down with Dax Dupré, eCommerce Manager at International Beverage, to unpack what it really means to know your brand, know your customer, and build growth that actually converts. Drawing on Dax’s journey from frontline sales through global drinks brands and into e-commerce leadership, the conversation blends commercial reality with practical insight from inside large-scale businesses. What’s Covered in This Episode The episode opens with a simple but recurring theme: knowing your brand and knowing who you are targeting. Dax explains why clarity at this level directly shapes performance across the funnel, from awareness through consideration and ultimately purchase. Rather than overcomplicating strategy, he stresses the importance of understanding who you are speaking to and why they are buying in the first place. Dax shares his background moving from traditional sales roles into major FMCG environments, outlining how early exposure to customer interaction shaped his approach to e-commerce. He reflects on the importance of autonomy, explaining why freedom to make decisions, learn quickly, and adapt has been central to his career progression. The discussion moves into how e-commerce differs from traditional retail, particularly the visibility of data. Dax highlights how online channels allow brands to see exactly what is working and what is not, removing the ability to hide behind assumptions. Conversion rate, pricing, and promotion mechanics are explored as key signals that guide decision-making. Ali, Zamir, and Dax also dive into brand positioning and growth strategy, using real examples from the drinks industry. They discuss how licensing, diversification, and creating multiple customer touchpoints can build brand awareness beyond a single product or channel. Dax explains why growth is not just about volume, but about placing the brand in the right moments of the customer journey. The conversation closes with practical advice for brand managers and founders, particularly those looking to launch or scale in competitive categories. Dax shares lessons on speed, supply chain control, testing with small volumes, and focusing on what customers say rather than personal opinion. Throughout the episode, the message is consistent: data, discipline, and customer understanding drive sustainable success. Key Takeaways Know your brand and your customer: Clear targeting directly impacts funnel performance and conversion.Keep the funnel simple: Awareness, consideration, and purchase are enough when understood properly.Data removes guesswork: E-commerce exposes what works and what does not in real time.Autonomy matters: Freedom to act and adapt enables faster growth and better outcomes.Conversion beats traffic: Sending more people to a page means nothing without relevance.Test, learn, iterate: Small runs, fast feedback, and customer response should guide decisions. To access more insights on building sustainable online businesses and avoiding common pitfalls in the reselling world, visit https://thiswayup.online/resources.

    31 min
  8. 21 JAN

    Trump's Tariffs Tantrum, TikToks 2025 Triumph, and Amazon Driving People Away? | Upside #70

    In this episode of Upside, Ali and Zamir unpack a week of developments that could reshape the landscape for sellers and brands operating globally. From proposed US tariffs to the rise of TikTok as a serious commerce platform and new questions around Amazon’s affiliate practices, they explore what these shifts mean in practice for businesses of all sizes. What’s Covered in This Episode Ali and Zamir open with a breakdown of former President Trump’s proposed 10 percent tariff on goods traded between the UK, the US, and parts of Europe. They discuss how such a move would increase the cost of trading into the US and why the impact would be felt very differently depending on the size and structure of a business. While larger organisations may be able to absorb or offset these costs, smaller brands and manufacturers could face difficult decisions around pricing, margins, and supply chains. The conversation then moves to TikTok and its growing influence in e-commerce. Ali and Zamir explore how the platform is shifting its focus towards larger brands, strengthening anti-fraud measures, and positioning itself as a serious player in social commerce rather than just a media channel. They discuss what this means for brand strategy, advertising, and the future of consumer discovery. They also examine Amazon’s Project Starfish and the implications it has for affiliate marketing and brand transparency. The discussion raises concerns around how Amazon can use AI to create listings and capture affiliate revenue from direct-to-consumer sales, often without brands being fully aware. Ali and Zamir question what this means for brand control, attribution, and trust within the wider Amazon ecosystem. The episode closes with a reflection on the resilience of traditional retail, highlighting the continued success of UK high street retailer Next. Ali and Zamir discuss how adaptability, operational discipline, and a clear understanding of customers have allowed some legacy retailers to thrive despite ongoing disruption. Key Takeaways Tariffs raise costs: A proposed 10 percent tariff could significantly increase the cost of trading into the US.Small businesses feel it most: Larger brands may absorb tariff costs more easily than smaller manufacturers.TikTok is evolving fast: The platform is actively courting bigger brands and strengthening its commerce offering.Affiliate transparency questioned: Amazon’s Project Starfish raises concerns around attribution and brand control.Retail is not dead: Businesses like Next show that traditional retail can still succeed through adaptation and focus. To access more insights on building sustainable online businesses and avoiding common pitfalls in the reselling world, visit https://thiswayup.online/resources.

    24 min

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Welcome to Upside, a limited series podcast for brand owners, brand managers and the digitally curious. In each episode we'll be sharing insights and strategies that have helped us and over 100 brands grow to dominate the online marketplace. We'll dive into the most common questions we get from founders, explore the nuances of consumer behaviour and reveal our formula for success. Whether you’re a seasoned brand manager or just starting out, tune in for bite sized insights and practical advice to help you thrive in the digital world. So join us on this journey, avoid common pitfalls and learn what it takes to win in todays competitive marketplaces. Lets get started and make the most of the Upside.