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A podcast by two sisters who care about celebrities as much as their family.

  1. 19 HR AGO

    323: BLAKE LIVELY VS. JUSTIN BALDONI PT. 9! Blake & Ryan's Cringe Emails to Ben Affleck, Colleen Hoover, Matt & Lucy Damon, & Sony Exec BTS Emails

    In this emergency episode, we dive head-first into newly released discovery that blows the Justin Baldoni vs. Blake Lively saga wide open. We break down Jenny Slate’s deposition (and the actual footage that backs it up), unpack Blake and Ryan’s behind-the-scenes power plays with Hollywood royalty, and read the absolutely unhinged emails sent to Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. Plus: Sony executives vent privately about Blake, Ryan Reynolds sends the most try-hard text imaginable to Colleen Hoover, and we revisit the Brooklyn Beckham wedding chaos with fresh context. Buckle up — this one is messy, revealing, and extremely Pop Apologists.  ⏱️ Timestamps & Chapters 00:00 🎬 Intro & why this is an emergency episode 01:00 🧩 Where the Baldoni vs. Lively case stood before the new docs 02:00 👀 Quick pop culture detour: Brooklyn Beckham wedding drama update 03:00 💃 DJ Fat Tony speaks out — what actually happened at the wedding 06:00 😬 Why Nicola Peltz running out crying is the real tell 08:00 🧠 What this says about family dynamics & long-standing tension 10:00 📂 Back to the main event: Justin Baldoni vs. Blake Lively, Part 9 11:00 🧾 Jenny Slate deposition — why this changes everything 13:00 💬 “Hot” / “Sexy” comments explained (and why they mattered) 16:00 🎥 The on-set footage everyone’s been arguing about 19:00 😐 Blake’s micro-expression & Baldoni’s reaction 21:00 🚩 “Missed the sexual harassment training” — unpacking the fallout 23:00 ⚖️ Jenny Slate describes her own uncomfortable experience 26:00 😵 First-day power dynamics & why she didn’t speak up 28:00 📝 Jenny texts her agent: “Justin and Jamie freak me out” 31:00 🧨 “Ted Talk feminist” vs. on-set reality 33:00 📉 How the vibe on set deteriorated after pushback 35:00 🤝 Blake + Jenny texts during filming — corroboration in real time 38:00 🧠 Big take: how both sides can be right (and wrong) 41:00 🎭 Sexual harassment vs. creative overreach — drawing the line 43:00 📨 Blake & Ryan text Matt and Lucy Damon 46:00 🧳 Vacation hijacked for movie notes 😭 49:00 🧠 “Politically it’s cleaner if you log into my account” 52:00 💀 The dead-father comments & cult accusations 55:00 📧 Blake’s email to Ben Affleck (yes, that Ben) 58:00 😬 “Don’t hang up” — ex-coded energy 1:01:00 🎥 Begging for notes from Hollywood royalty 1:04:00 😵 Desperation, delusion, and ego collide 1:07:00 🏢 Sony executives’ private messages leak 1:09:00 💣 “She did it to herself” — epic-level stupid decisions 1:12:00 ❄️ “Bizarrely unhirable” & Eva Mendes-era predictions 1:15:00 📱 Ryan Reynolds texts Colleen Hoover 1:17:00 🤡 Maximum try-hard energy 1:19:00 🧠 Final thoughts: power, ego, and scorched-earth strategy EarlyBird CBD: Visit http://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code PA20 for 20% off. Hero Bread: Go to hero.co and use code POP at checkout. Marley Spoon: Head to MarleySpoon.com/Offer/POP for up to 25 FREE meals. Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. SKIMS: Shop my favorite bras and underwear at http://www.skims.com/pop #skimspartner Booking.com: https://www.booking.com Book today on the site or in the app! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 9m
  2. 3 DAYS AGO • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    322: BLAKE LIVELY vs. JUSTIN BALDONI PT. 8! Taylor Allison Swift enters the chat.

    We break down the Blake–Taylor messages line by line, from ride-or-die friendship energy to subtle “please stop emailing me like HR” vibes. It’s messy, fascinating, and way more revealing than any PR statement could ever be. Buckle up—because this drama did not end with us. 00:00 🎙️ Intro Why this episode focuses on Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, and Taylor Swift. 01:00 💥 Private texts revealed Taylor Swift and Blake Lively’s text messages become public. 02:00 ⚖️ Why the texts were released The legal fight and who pushed for disclosure. 03:30 📚 It Ends With Us timeline Quick recap of the movie, the lawsuit, and key players. 05:00 🏙️ April 2023 events Blake rewrites scenes and the Tribeca penthouse meeting. 07:00 📱 Taylor’s involvement begins “I’ll do anything for you” and what it suggests. 09:00 🔍 Post-meeting texts How the power dynamics start to shift. 11:00 🎤 Justin’s “pop culture” comment What he said to Taylor and why it matters. 13:00 🧠 Why that comment was a mistake Insecurity, ego, and Hollywood signaling. 15:00 ⚖️ Uneven communication Blake’s long messages vs. Taylor’s short replies. 17:00 🎬 April 2024 trailer Blake sends Taylor the trailer and asks about the song. 19:30 ♟️ Strategy and leverage “Welcome to Hollywood, Justin.” 22:00 🎞️ Control over the film Edits, test screenings, and who’s in charge. 25:00 ✈️ Mid-tour updates Blake updates Taylor during the Eras Tour. 27:30 🧊 Taylor’s response A short reply that signals distance. 30:00 💔 December check-in Blake asks if something is wrong between them. 33:00 🗣️ Taylor sets a boundary Addressing tone, distance, and the “we” language. 36:00 😔 Blake’s explanation Paranoia, fallout, and feeling abandoned. 39:00 📰 Justin’s press cycle Awards, interviews, and public backlash. 42:00 🧨 NYT article & lawsuit What happens when the story breaks. 45:00 📲 Group chat reaction Immediate responses after the lawsuit filing. 48:00 🧠 Public reaction “Mean girl” discourse and backlash against Taylor. 51:00 🐉 The “dragons” issue Power, leverage, and Taylor feeling used. 54:00 ❓ Where things stand now The current state of Taylor and Blake’s relationship. 56:00 🧾 Final thoughts What the texts reveal — and what they don’t.

    1h 12m
  3. 5 DAYS AGO

    321: BROOKLYN BECKHAM MENTIONS IT ALL

    Brooklyn Beckham breaks his silence in a shocking statement accusing David and Victoria Beckham of manipulation, betrayal, and a wedding moment gone horribly wrong. We unpack every claim, the money and power dynamics underneath it all, and what this feud reveals about celebrity family brands. Plus: Ben Affleck politely dismantles a Real Housewives fantasy, and why this week feels like a golden age for gossip historians. 01:10 🌴 Chanler’s Guana Island trip Beach glow, anniversaries, and luxury overload. 12:45 ✈️ Customs chaos A shocking airport mistake. Brooklyn Beckham Feud 14:35 💥 Brooklyn breaks his silence Why this statement changes everything. 16:45 🧠 Celebrity narratives vs. truth What we think we know — and don’t. 18:30 📜 Reading the statement Setting the stakes. 20:45 👗 Wedding dress drama Victoria Beckham vs. Valentino. 24:45 💰 The Beckham name & money Control, contracts, resentment. 29:30 🛟 Brooklyn’s safety net Marriage, wealth, and leverage. 33:00 🩸 “Not blood, not family” The night-before-the-wedding fight. 36:45 🕺 The mother–son dance The most disturbing allegation. 40:00 👀 Witnesses & deleted comments Quiet confirmations. 44:00 🎥 Netflix red carpet tension Cold shoulders and body language. 47:30 👑 Victoria Beckham & control Power shifts inside the family. 50:00 🐕 LA fires & the dog rescue Brand over empathy. 52:30 🤔 Trauma or entitlement? Where sympathy fractures. 55:30 🧩 Final Beckham analysis What feels real — and what’s next. Pop Culture Roundup 57:04 🎬 Ben Affleck & Lisa Barlow A Housewife claim meets reality. 59:00 😶 “I don’t know her” energy Ben’s polite takedown. 01:01:30 📱 Lisa doubles down Why this is elite Housewives behavior. 01:04:00 🏁 Closing thoughts Why none of this is over. EarlyBird CBD: Visit http://www.EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code PA20 for 20% off. Caraway: If you visit https://www.Carawayhome.com/POP you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase. Quince: Go to http://www.Quince.com/APOLOGIST for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 24m
  4. 14 JAN

    319: Kendall Jenner "Has Never Had Plastic Surgery," Beckham Family Drama Hits New Low + Golden Globes & RHOBH

    timestamps: (00:00:00) 🎄 Charleston Christmas Card Scandal — a viral family card, a lawyer husband, and a six-year marriage detonated in public (00:09:45) 💉 Kendall Jenner vs. Reality — “no plastic surgery,” Accutane nose theories, and why the internet isn’t buying it (00:22:19) 🏈 Sydney Sweeney & Scooter Braun — “disrespectful” athlete DMs, female independence, and relationship red flags (00:26:34) 🧾 Brooklyn Beckham Cuts Off His Parents — David & Victoria’s legal notice, Instagram blocks, and family warfare by lawyer (00:36:00) 🏆 Golden Globes Chaos — Nikki Glaser’s monologue, Leonardo DiCaprio jokes, and thirsting over Michael B. Jordan thirst (00:45:15) 💋 Kylie Jenner & Timothée Chalamet — body language, lip-reading culture, and why everyone can’t stop watching them (00:50:28) 🍸 RHOBH: Sutton vs. Jennifer Tilly — sobriety, sensitivity, and a friendship that goes sideways fast (00:55:32) 🧥 Kyle Richards & Dorit Kemsley — PK drama, loyalty lines, and what “neutral” really means (01:00:05) 👠 Rachel Zoe Enters the Chat — unexpected warmth, fashion without the cruelty, and why she’s winning them over (01:02:46) 💎 The Amanda Problem — crystal flexing, “I belong in any room,” money talk, and a new housewife archetype EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code PA20 for 20% off. Athletic Greens: Go to https://www.drinkag1.com/apologists to get their best offer on your first subscription order. Dime Beauty: Head to DimeBeauty.com and get 20% off your first order with code PODCAST20. HERS Hair: Visit forhers.com/APOLOGISTS to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 12m
  5. 9 JAN • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    318: Celeb Mom Group Meltdown, Bethenny Trashes St. Barths, Alan Jackson Withdraws + RHOSLC

    timestamps: (00:00) 🌍 oceans between us — recording across continents, emotional check-ins, and perspective after a medical scare
(02:31) 🎂 mom’s birthday in california — Early-January birthday pain, vintage family photos, and a small-world moment
(11:11) ✈️ travel chaos & forgotten pants — Wedding in South Africa, packing anxiety, and why the universe never teaches men lessons
(16:06) 💇‍♀️ hair discourse meltdown — darker blondes, DM hysteria, and officially exiting “blonde psychosis”
(18:28) 🎙️ bradley cooper denial — facelift accusations, eyelids that don’t lie, and why celebrities should just… not comment
(20:45) 👩‍👧 ashley tisdale vs. the mom group — celebrity cliques, The Cut essay debrief, and when a husband enters the chat
(32:09) 🍲 gwyneth on amy poehler’s pod — bone broth myths, getting mistaken for Nicole Kidman, and Gwyneth’s fun energy
(34:56) 🛥️ bethenny frankel vs. st. barts — Andy Cohen shade, rash conspiracies, and revelations on Jeff Bezos’ yacht
(40:01) 💔 julia roberts & affair math — SmartLess stories, America’s ex-sweetheart, and complicated origin love tales
(41:38) ⚖️ alan jackson exits the case — money realities, legal theatrics, and what it signals when a public defender steps in
(45:10) 🍸 rhoslc finale autopsy — Greek tragedy theatrics, Whitney’s “concern” for Meredith, Heather Gay’s vulnerability, and what felt produced vs. real

    56 min
  6. 7 JAN

    317: Timothée Finally Confesses Love for Kylie, Aaron Phypers’ GoFundMe Manipulation + End of an Era Eps 5+6

    timestamps (00:00:00–00:06:00) 👗 “Tits out” & Family optics — the Nader sisters, dressing sexy around your parents, and inherited modesty culture (00:06:01–00:12:30) ✈️ Lxury travel truths — honeymoon hotel comparisons, Cancún bookings, and when the dream experience almost collapses (00:12:31–00:19:45) 🎬 Hugh Jackman, Sutton Foster & Kate Hudson — work-husband rumors, jealousy optics, and calling the paparazzi on yourself (00:19:46–00:29:15) 🧡 Timothée Chalamet & Kylie Jenner — award-speech soft launches, “partner” discourse, and why Kylie is actually out of his league (00:29:16–00:35:55) 🕵️ Club Chalamet obsession — fandom gone feral, parasocial ownership, and what happens when a stan gets too close (00:35:56–00:40:50) 🧾 Carole Radziwill & Ghislaine Maxwell — the framed photo mystery, social-circle denial, and what “not knowing” really means (00:40:51–00:41:55) 💎 Dorit & PK fallout — the Birkin comment, public bitterness, and why exes with rude comment are the real red flag (00:41:56–00:46:15) 🚨 Denise Richards & Aaron Phypers — GoFundMe drama, eviction headlines, custody leverage, and emotional manipulation (00:46:16–00:56:00) 🎤 Eras Tour: Marjorie — family legacy, backstage illness, Andrea Swift lore, and a jaw-dropping ring story (00:56:01–01:05:30) 💫 Gracie Abrams vs. Sabrina Carpenter — fangirl energy, reverence for Taylor Swift, and who understood the assignment (01:05:31–end) ❤️ the final show — Travis Kelce’s letter, “love of my life” timing, burnout, and what it means to finally be ready Hero Bread: Go to https://www.hero.co and use code POP at checkout. Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. SKIMS: Shop my favorite bras and underwear at http://www.skims.com/pop #skimspartner Better Help: This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at https://www.BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 9m
  7. 2 JAN • SUBSCRIBERS ONLY

    316: Alix Earle & Tom Brady in St. Barths, End of an Era Eps 3 & 4 + RHOSLC

    Lauren and Chanler kick off 2026 discussing Tom Brady & Alix Earle in St. Barts, Kyle & Mauricio rumors, and Zach Bryan’s surprise wedding. Then we break down Eras Tour Episodes 3 & 4, including the Reputation bodysuit mystery, Andrea Swift’s matchmaking, and the Travis Kelce love story—plus RHOSLC in Greece and why the season may be ending on a whimper. 💋 00:00 🎆 Happy New Year + back in the saddle 01:00 🎄 Christmas recaps & holiday chaos 02:00 📸 Chanler’s “manic” end-of-year Instagram posting 04:00 💍 Wedding photo discourse & posting regrets 06:00 🎤 Welcome back + what’s on the pop culture docket Pop Culture Rapid Fire 07:00 🏈 Alex Earle & Tom Brady in St. Barts 09:00 💔 Tom Brady, Gisele, and emotional fallout 11:00 🏔️ Kyle Richards & Mauricio reunion rumors in Aspen 14:00 💒 Zach Bryan’s surprise wedding + red flags 16:00 🎶 Why this marriage probably won’t last Eras Tour Episodes 3 & 4 Deep Dive 17:00 🏙️ Taylor’s NYC apartment + design speculation 19:00 🐍 Reputation bodysuit mystery explained 22:00 🎸 Tour band & dancer backstories (aka… necessary?) 25:00 ☕ Taylor’s chaotic beverage choices 27:00 🏋️ Taylor’s workout routine & tour stamina 30:00 👗 Costume changes & under-stage chaos 32:00 👩‍💼 Erica: the unseen logistics mastermind 33:00 🛋️ Tree Paine, Andrea Swift & backstage furniture 36:00 ❤️ The Travis Kelce origin story 39:00 🧠 Andrea Swift as matchmaker 42:00 🎵 Surprise song meanings & breakup subtext 45:00 🏈 Travis backstage + why this relationship works 47:00 💡 Joe, Matty & why Travis is different 50:00 🎤 Sabrina Carpenter & Taylor’s mentor era RHOSLC Breakdown 52:00 🇬🇷 Greece trip chaos continues 54:00 🍸 Meredith’s alleged issues & Mary’s concern 56:00 💅 Spa whisper fight + hairgate 58:00 😬 Britani bullying & Angie K’s mean-girl turn 1:00:00 🎭 Why this season’s finale might flop

    1h 6m

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