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Updated 28 Feb

21 FEB

Is Go Simple Anymore?

Another week, another Kris & Matt duo episode! This week, they're talking about Go. They cover the recent generic methods proposal by Robert Griesemer, results from the 2025 Go Developer Survey, some highlights of the 1.26 release, and more! As always, we've got supporter content! This week that includes the survey's tooling data, a deep dive into GOPATH nostalgia and why Go Workspaces can't save the AWS SDK's 70,000+ tags, Kris's research into the entire Go module proxy, and a structural argument for why the module system's base premises don't hold. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of Break this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Go Generic Methods Proposal (00:00:46)Chapter 2: Go 1.26 Release Highlights (00:17:07)Chapter 3: Go Developer Survey: Trust & Leadership (00:25:42)Chapter 4: Survey Challenges: Idioms, Features & Error Handling (00:36:22)Epilogue (01:08:23) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (00:46) - Chapter 1: Go Generic Methods Proposal (17:07) - Chapter 2: Go 1.26 Release Highlights (25:42) - Chapter 3: Go Developer Survey: Trust & Leadership (36:22) - Chapter 4: Survey Challenges: Idioms, Features & Error Handling (01:08:23) - Epilogue

21 Feb

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1h 10m
17/02/2025

Patching Problems with Persnickety Proxies Purveyed by Paternalistic Princes

A recent Ars Technica article outlined a backdoor in the Go Module Mirror. Even though it's framed as a backdoor, and potentially a vulnerability, it's actually an exploit of a design choice designers of the module mirror made. Kris is joined by Matthew, Dylan, and guest host Jamie Tanna, to discuss this vulnerability-but-actually-feature, the implications for the Go community, and the wider reasons why something like this happened. We go on a journey through the history of modules, the Go community, and a whole lot more. We know this is a long one but we're sure you'll love it! Have thoughts? Reach out to us on social media and let us hear them! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes & Links: Go Module Mirror served backdoor to devs for 3+ yearsGo Supply Chain Attack: Malicious Package Exploits Go Module Proxy Caching for PersistenceAbusing Go's infrastructure (from 8:38)#66653: x/pkgsite: links can point at source code that may not match what is served by the module proxyopenapi.tanna.dev/go/validator (from 22:15)#44550: proposal: cmd/go: make major versions optional in import paths (from 1:15:56)Comment from aboveSourceHut will (not) blacklist the Go module mirror (from 9:19)Chapters: (00:05) - Intro (01:38) - Introducing Jamie Tanna (02:21) - The vulnerability that's actually a feature (04:53) - The Go Module Mirror (14:02) - Paternalism (21:14) - What are vanity URLs? (23:02) - Not just the official Go Module Mirror (27:58) - Unforgiving Module Proxies (29:23) - #BringBackGOPATH (29:36) - Tags are mutable (33:44) - What does a version mean? (35:10) - Jamie's Hot Take (38:20) - The Trails and Tribulations of Modules (42:03) - It's humans! (44:40) - How might we fix this? (49:12) - Is it too easy to fetch dependencies? (52:25) - Decentralized versus Centralized (57:24) - A Proxy is not an Origin (01:03:14) - Can we revalidate? (01:05:14) - I can't believe it's not SemVer! (01:06:34) - Analogy Time, featuring The Web! (01:09:25) - Is this a problem elsewhere? (01:12:20) - The tooling should be better (01:16:47) - The Community that was (01:23:06) - Matthew's Is Go Dead? Perspective (01:23:59) - Jamie's Is Go Dead? Perspective (01:25:19) - What does Dead mean? (01:28:23) - Go should be able to do more (01:31:22) - Go as an identity (01:32:33) - Some added nuance (01:39:18) - A difference in leadership (01:43:03) - A lack of inclusion (01:57:34) - Blame the system, not the person (02:03:00) - Outro Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Dylan Bourque - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Jamie Tanna - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram

17/02/2025

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2h 7m
31/12/2025

Stack Trace 2025

We decided to do our own wrap up for the year. We've called it Stack Trace, and we pulled a bunch of stats from the first year of Fallthrough. In this episode, Kris, Matt, and Dylan talk through these stats and how they feel about Fallthrough's first year. If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. This week's episode of break continues the conversation. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/22. In this week's bonus content, we've got some extra stats! Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: A Year of Fallthrough In Stats (00:03:37)Chapter 2: Better and Smaller Platforms (00:36:28)Chapter 3: Who Had The Longest Monologues? (00:41:33)Chapter 4: It's Different In The Moment (00:49:13)Chapter 5: The Spicy Content That Wasn't (00:54:16)Chapter 6: More Stats! [Extended] (01:00:48)Chapter 7: Thinking About The Future (01:01:05)Epilogue (01:12:35) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Dylan Bourque - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (03:37) - Chapter 1: A Year of Fallthrough In Stats (36:28) - Chapter 2: Better and Smaller Platforms (41:33) - Chapter 3: Who Had The Longest Monologues? (49:13) - Chapter 4: It's Different In The Moment (54:16) - Chapter 5: The Spicy Content That Wasn't (01:00:48) - Chapter 6: More Stats! [Extended] (01:01:05) - Chapter 7: Thinking About The Future (01:12:35) - Epilogue

31/12/2025

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1h 16m
03/02/2025

Navigating A Career In Tech

How much do you know about a career in coding? Perhaps you're already a well versed professional software person. Or maybe you're someone who's just starting out. Either way, you're going to need some help along your entire technology career. In this episode, which is part 2 of a 2 part series, the panel is chatting with Chris Allaire to talk about all things tech recruiting! They discuss what makes one a good candidate, why a recruiter is useful, whether recruiting can be replaced with AI, and so much more. As always, we've got some great unpopular opinions at the end. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes & Links: AverityChapters: (00:00) - Intro (00:57) - How're we doing? (01:47) - Introducing Chris Allaire (03:30) - Retro Tech Recruiting (08:44) - Recruiting Throughout The Decades (13:17) - Increasing Specialization. Or Not. (17:02) - Modern Tech Recruiting (27:47) - Fearing Automation (35:45) - What makes a good candidate? (42:33) - Senior vs Staff: Knowing The Job You want (47:23) - Starting A Career In Coding (55:51) - For Those Who Love Tech, But Not Coding (01:00:57) - How To Choose The Right Company (01:13:03) - Unpopular Opinions (01:13:48) - Chris' Unpop (01:16:10) - Dylan's Unpop (01:17:43) - Kris' Unpop (01:20:18) - Ian's Unpop (01:22:50) - Final Advice: Get A Recruiter (who cares about you)! (01:25:23) - Outro Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Ian Wester-Lopshire - Host Dylan Bourque - Host Chris Allaire - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram

03/02/2025

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1h 26m
24/02/2025

Ghosttying Go

What's a terminal? Why is it being emulated? On this week's episode, Matt and Kris are joined by Mitchell Hashimoto to discuss his newest project Ghostty, the Zig programming language, thoughts and feelings about Go, and more. As always, catch some Unpopular Opinions at the end of the episode. Want to hear even more from Mitchell? This episode features bonus content for our Fallthrough Fan and above subscribers! Become a supporter and enjoy bonus content and higher quality audio today, and additional perks and benefits when we add them in the future. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes & Links: How to reset the terminal in Ghostty (from 04:41)Ghostty reset keybindingSunsetting Cursed Terminal Emulation (from 18:22)XTGETTCAP in Ghostty (from 23:31)ncurses terminfo database (from 25:14)Gnome VTE (from 36:55)Mongoose embedded web server (from 52:28)libuv (from 52:40)freetype (from 52:44)HarfBuzz (from 52:45)Pixman (from 52:48)libxev (from 52:58)z2d (from 53:01)Scripto Continua (from 01:25:26)Chapters: (00:05) - Intro (00:39) - Become a subscriber: https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe (01:52) - What is Ghostty? (03:47) - Consequences of cat'ing binaries (04:43) - Ghostty's journey to release (06:47) - Ghostty's team structure (08:22) - What terminal are we using? (09:03) - Ghostty's Dev Tools (14:53) - What are escape sequences? (16:57) - What are terminal emulators emulating? (19:50) - The ossification of SSH & Terminfo (27:26) - Ghostty Terminfo workaround (28:38) - Shell in the Ghostty (34:44) - libghostty (38:59) - The most difficult part in implementing Ghostty (42:35) - Why Zig? (46:41) - How to build with Zig (55:35) - The Zig Standard Library (59:00) - Social feedback creates bleh languages (01:02:52) - Go's place in the modern world (01:11:56) - On handling feedback (01:19:45) - Join the Ghostty development community (01:21:35) - Mitchell's thoughts on GitHub (subscriber only) (01:23:02) - Mitchell's Unpop (01:24:21) - Matt's Unpop (01:26:37) - Kris' Duolingo Streak (01:29:29) - Kris' Unpop (01:33:25) - Outro Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Mitchell Hashimoto - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram

24/02/2025

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1h 35m
10/02/2025

What's New In Go 1.24?

Go's steady cycle of releasing new versions every six months continues. On this episode, our "What's new in Go?" correspondent (a carry over from Go Time) joins special guest host Johnny Boursiquot to talk about the new features and changes coming in Go 1.24. As always, we've got some great unpopular opinions at the end. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes & Links: Carlana's WebsiteTime Is Not A Synchronization Primitive (from 19:04)sqlc (from 1:05:01)Chapters: (00:00) - Intro (02:20) - Introducing Carlana (03:29) - What's New In Go 1.24? (04:02) - package weak (10:17) - package runtime (16:55) - testing (27:37) - package os (32:28) - go tool (37:58) - generic type aliases (41:35) - minor changes (52:25) - Unpopular Opinions (52:35) - Carlana's Unpop (56:36) - Johnny's Unpop (01:05:43) - Outro Hosts Kris Brandow - Producer Johnny Boursiquot - Host Carlana Johnson - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram

10/02/2025

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1h 6m
24 JAN

Systems Thinking for Humans

Annie and Michael Hedgpeth, founders of People Work, join Kris and Matt to unpack the junior hiring crisis and what's really broken about how we grow engineers. Annie's viral blog post sparked debate about whether senior engineers have abandoned their responsibility to mentor and whether our obsession with career ladders created the problem. The conversation moves from systemic dysfunction to solutions: People Work, their local-first app that helps engineers manage professional relationships with a systems thinking approach. As always, we've got supporter content! This week that includes Kris's unconventional career path, a rant about why we have too many engineering titles, deep dives into relational intelligence and privacy concerns around workplace surveillance, and the technical architecture behind People Work: Swift frontend, Rust backend, and a custom DSL inspired by HCL. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. This week's episode of Break continues the conversation. Annie and Michael stick around as the panel digs into why early career engineers rush to prove themselves, the trap of becoming "the glue person" instead of building technical depth, and why your strength as a junior is that you don't know anything yet. The panel also discusses some spicy topics like why software engineers spew logical fallacies, and the future of computing as hardware gains slow down. They round out the episode with some Unpopular Opinions. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/25. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: Meet Annie & Michael Hedgpeth (00:00:49)Chapter 2: The Junior Hiring Crisis (00:01:15)Chapter 3: AI as an Amplifier (00:10:37)Chapter 4: The Broken Apprenticeship Model (00:12:05)Chapter 5: Scaling Yourself Through Others (00:20:00)Chapter 6: Kris Never Had a Mentor [Preview] (00:25:59)Chapter 7: Too Many Titles [Preview] (00:26:14)Chapter 10: Relational Intelligence [Preview] (00:26:33)Chapter 12: Why Engineers? [Preview] (00:27:04)Chapter 13: Privacy & Safe Spaces [Preview] (00:27:36)Chapter 14: AI Strategy & On-Device [Preview] (00:28:06)Chapter 15: Swift + Rust + Crux [Preview] (00:28:34)Chapter 8: Networking That Actually Works (00:29:17)Chapter 9: What is People Work? (00:33:56)Chapter 11: The Onboarding Use Case (00:43:18)Chapter 16: Data Ownership & The DSL (00:48:16)Epilogue (00:52:25) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Annie Hedgpeth - Guest Michael Hedgpeth - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (00:49) - Chapter 1: Meet Annie & Michael Hedgpeth (01:15) - Chapter 2: The Junior Hiring Crisis (10:37) - Chapter 3: AI as an Amplifier (12:05) - Chapter 4: The Broken Apprenticeship Model (20:00) - Chapter 5: Scaling Yourself Through Others (25:59) - Chapter 6: Kris Never Had a Mentor [Preview] (26:14) - Chapter 7: Too Many Titles [Preview] (26:33) - Chapter 10: Relational Intelligence [Preview] (27:04) - Chapter 12: Why Engineers? [Preview] (27:36) - Chapter 13: Privacy & Safe Spaces [Preview] (28:06) - Chapter 14: AI Strategy & On-Device [Preview] (28:34) - Chapter 15: Swift + Rust + Crux [Preview] (29:17) - Chapter 8: Networking That Actually Works (33:56) - Chapter 9: What is PeopleWork? (43:18) - Chapter 11: The Onboarding Use Case (48:16) - Chapter 16: Data Ownership & The DSL (52:25) - Epilogue

24 Jan

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53 min
28/07/2025

AI Booster? AI Doomer? You're Wrong Either Way

It's a rarity in recent years to have a conversation and not have the topic of AI brought up. There are those who think we're on the cusp of AI super-intelligence, those who think AI will destroy the job market, and those who completely write the entire thing off. What these conversations lack is nuance. In this episode, Kris is joined by Matt and Steve to bring some much needed nuance to the conversation around artificial intelligence. They discuss the history of AI; how everything old is new again, sometimes literally; why boosters and doomers are wrong; what intelligence actually is (in reference to computers); and so much more. We've also have a new episode of Break! We've decided that Break will be video first, so you can watch it on YouTube or in your favorite podcast app by going to: https://break.show/ep/3. For our supporters, we have a whole bunch of extra content. This episode was one large, unstructured conversation, so we've included interludes of related or slightly tangential conversations as supporter content. Not a supporter yet? You can fix that by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes: How AI is Ruining the Electrical Grid Table of Contents: Prologue (03:12)Chapter 1: A Brief History of AI (04:35)Chapter 2: The AI Boom & Bust (09:00)Interlude: Why Are People Mad at Duolingo? [Supporter Only] (10:07)Chapter 3: The Problem Isn't AI, It's The Products (10:07)Interlude: Why AI Coding Assistants are like Debuggers [Supporter Only] (18:33)Interlude: Bankified Companies [Supporter Only] (20:22)Interlude: The Uber of Past Successes [Supporter Only] (23:30)Chapter 4: Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (23:33)Interlude: How The Power Grid Works [Supporter Only] (36:34)Interlude: Congestion Pricing, Capacity Planning, & Subway Cars [Supporter Only] (42:10)Chapter 5: Startups Aren't Businesses [Supporter Only] (42:11)Chapter 6: The Machines Have Been Intelligent The Entire Time (42:39)Chapter 7: The Interface Is A Means To An End (53:14)Chapter 8: We Need More Naunce (01:02:08)Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions (01:10:29)Epilogue (01:15:58) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Matthew Sanabria - Host Steve Klabnik - Host Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (03:12) - Prologue (04:35) - Chapter 1: A Brief History of AI (09:00) - Chapter 2: The AI Boom & Bust (10:07) - Interlude: Why Are People Mad at Duolingo? [Supporter Only] (10:07) - Chapter 3: The Problem Isn't AI, It's The Products (18:33) - Interlude: Why AI Coding Assistants are like Debuggers [Supporter Only] (20:22) - Interlude: Bankified Companies [Supporter Only] (23:30) - Interlude: The Uber of Past Successes [Supporter Only] (23:33) - Chapter 4: Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI (36:34) - Interlude: How The Power Grid Works [Supporter Only] (42:10) - Interlude: Congestion Pricing, Capacity Planning, & Subway Cars [Supporter Only] (42:11) - Chapter 5: Startups Aren't Businesses [Supporter Only] (42:39) - Chapter 6: The Machines Have Been Intelligent The Entire Time (53:14) - Chapter 7: The Interface Is A Means To An End (01:02:08) - Chapter 8: We Need More Naunce (01:10:29) - Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions (01:15:58) - Epilogue

28/07/2025

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1h 21m
04/08/2025

Championing A Cause

How do you make change happen effectively? In this episode, Matt is joined by Alex Sims to discuss championing a cause and making change happen within your organization. They discuss various strategies, including how to get started, different technical approaches, and how to deal with those who resist change. We've also have a new episode of Break! We've decided that Break will be video first, so you can watch it on YouTube or in your favorite podcast app by going to: https://break.show/ep/4. For our supporters, we have extra content, including chapters on how observability factors into making change happen and how to deal with detractors and decrees from above. Not a supporter yet? You can fix that by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (01:39)Chapter 1: Alex's Background (02:04)Chapter 2: Becoming a Champion (08:02)Chapter 3: Dealing with Detractors [Supporter Only] (21:25)Chapter 4: Getting Started (22:10)Chapter 5: Dealing with Decrees [Supporter Only] (27:57)Chapter 6: Dealing with Detractors (continued) [Supporter Only] (28:29)Chapter 7: The Power of Observability (29:42)Chapter 8: Programming Languages (30:34)Chapter 9: Technical Debt (45:47)Chapter 10: Parting Advice (59:22)Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions (01:01:50)Epilogue (01:08:47) Hosts Matthew Sanabria - Host Kris Brandow - Producer Alex Sims - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (01:39) - Prologue (02:04) - Chapter 1: Alex's Background (08:02) - Chapter 2: Becoming a Champion (21:25) - Chapter 3: Dealing with Detractors [Supporter Only] (22:10) - Chapter 4: Getting Started (27:57) - Chapter 5: Dealing with Decrees [Supporter Only] (28:29) - Chapter 6: Dealing with Detractors (continued) [Supporter Only] (29:42) - Chapter 7: The Power of Observability (30:34) - Chapter 8: Programming Languages (45:47) - Chapter 9: Technical Debt (59:22) - Chapter 10: Parting Advice (01:01:50) - Appendix UNPOP: Unpopular Opinions (01:08:47) - Epilogue

04/08/2025

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1h 13m
13/10/2025

Ghostty & The Shell

Mitchell once again joins Matt and Kris to give us an update about Ghostty, a new library he's working on called libxev, and some of his thoughts around AI. We continue this discussion in this week's episode of Break! We get into some of the topics briefly mentioned during the main episode. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show. For our supporters, we have extra chapters on Mitchell's talk on open source governance and requiring AI disclosures for Ghostty contributions. Not a supporter yet? You can fix that by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: Prologue (00:00:00)Chapter 1: What's New With Ghostty? (00:01:44)Chapter 2: Mitchell's Take On Open Source Governance [Extended Only] (00:34:14)Chapter 3: libxev (00:34:35)Chapter 4: AI Contribution Disclosures in Ghostty [Extended Only] (00:55:31) Hosts Kris Brandow - Host Dylan Bourque - Host Mitchell Hashimoto - Guest Socials:WebsiteBlueskyThreadsX/TwitterLinkedInInstagram (00:00) - Prologue (01:44) - Chapter 1: What's New With Ghostty? (34:14) - Chapter 2: Mitchell's Take On Open Source Governance [Extended Only] (34:35) - Chapter 3: libxev (55:31) - Chapter 4: AI Contribution Disclosures in Ghostty [Extended Only]

13/10/2025

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57 min

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