Liars, Thieves, Gluttons & Whores Nanci Adair

Welcome to the Season 3 finale of the Liars, Thieves, Gluttons, and Whores podcast! Join hosts Nanci Adair and Marianna Casagranda as they reflect on the season, exploring the artistic journey through inciting and precipitating events, the role of rituals, and the transformative crucible of addiction and recovery.

Introduction to Season 3 Finale

Reflection on Season 3 and Interviews with Artists in Recovery


Differentiating Between "Inciting Event" and "Precipitating Event" in Artistic Development
Nanci's Inciting Event: 6th Grade Art Project
Marianna's Gradual Artistic Development in High School
Role of Rituals in Enhancing Creative Work
Examples from Beadworking and Oil Painting
Agreement on Creativity Stemming from Spirit Working Through the Artist
Nanci's Experience with a Quilt Commission
Quilt Done Upside Down: Initial Frustration and Shift in Perspective
The Quilt's New Title and Interpretation through The Hanged Man Tarot Card
Exploration of the "Crucible" Experience of Addiction and Recovery
Cleave from Dependencies, Strengthening Resilience and Surrender
Growth in Understanding Limitations and Transforming Fear into Gifts

Marianna's Offer of Psychic Readings Through Her Website

Appreciation for Artists Interviewed in Season 3

Emphasis on How Recovery Enhances Rather Than Hinders Creativity

Recognition of Dreams as Creative Influences

Openness to Continuing Collaborative Work in Some Form

As Season 3 wraps up, Nanci and Marianna express gratitude to the artists who shared their recovery stories. Celebrating how recovery enhances creativity, they leave the door open for future collaborations. Bid farewell to a season filled with inspiring tales, looking forward to what the future holds for the Liars, Thieves, Gluttons, and Whores podcast.

 

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Connect With Marianna Casagranda

Website: https://www.mariannacasagranda.com/

Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/marianna.casagranda.7

About The Show

Thank you so much for listening to Season 3 of the LTGW PODCAST dedicated to Artists In Recovery. Get inspired, motivated, and tuned in with honest conversations every week from stories of people who have been on the dark and light side of both addiction and recovery, as well as experts to get the resources you need to live an extraordinary life in sobriety. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and be part of this great community.

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Join LTGW’s Creator and Host Nanci Adair and season 3 cohost Marianna Casagranda in a reflective conversation, revisiting the recent interview with Nanci's sister, Meg Weston—an artist in recovery.

The Intimate Quality of Lifelong Bonds:


Marianna's Observation: Marianna notes the interview's relaxed, intimate quality, attributing it to the lifelong relationship between Nanci and Meg.
Capturing Essence in Art: Delving into the power of photographing or drawing someone well-known, allowing artists to capture the essence and spirit beyond mere physical features.

A Family Tragedy and Its Impact:


Nanci's Nephew David: The interview touches on the recent two-year anniversary of David's accidental overdose, a tragedy deeply affecting the entire family.
The Unnatural Loss: Marianna reflects on the unnatural and tragic nature of parents losing children, especially in unexpected and violent ways.

Meg's Love for Volcanoes:


Past Life Connections: Exploring Marianna's perspective on Meg's lifelong love for volcanoes potentially reflecting past life memories or connections on a soul level.
Nanci's Volcanic Encounter: Nanci shares a personal experience visiting an active volcano in Hawaii, narrowly escaping harm from the intense heat.

Parallel Symbolism in Photography:


Lava Flows and Addiction: Marianna explores Meg's online photography, specifically the images of lava flows, drawing parallels to the hidden combustion of addiction beneath the surface.
Pushing Boundaries and Risk-Taking: Discussing the themes of pushing boundaries and taking risks in nature and recovery, highlighting the evolution with age and long-term recovery.

Recovery as a Refining Process:


Temperance in Recovery: Marianna reflects on recovery as a tempering process, akin to a blacksmith removing the "dross" or unnecessary parts of oneself.
Allowing Feelings in Recovery: The importance of allowing feelings to have a natural cycle in recovery rather than suppressing them.

Spiritual Experiences and Love:


Loving through Decline: Marianna shares a powerful spiritual experience of coming to love, but not always like, her parents through their decline and deaths.
Encouragement for Listeners: Nanci and Marianna invite listeners to follow their work and subscribe to the podcast for more compelling stories of addiction and recovery.

Closing Thoughts:


Gratitude and Connection: A closing expression of gratitude for the shared stories, encouraging listeners to stay connected and engaged with the ongoing journey of recovery.

If you need more guidance on how you can obtain and maintain a sober lifestyle? Connect with Nanci and start your journey today:

 

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Connect With Marianna Casagranda

Website: https://www.mariannacasagranda.com/

Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/marianna.casagranda.7

About The Show

Thank you so much for listening to Season 3 of the LTGW PODCAST dedicated to Artists In Recovery. Get inspired, motivated, and tuned in with honest conversations every week from stories of people who have been on the dark and light side of both addiction and recovery, as well as experts to get the resources you need to live an extraordinary life in sobriety. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and be part of this great community.

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Join host Nanci Adair in a captivating episode as she engages in a heartfelt conversation with her sister, Meg Weston—a former CEO, photographer and poet.
Meg's Passion for Volcanoes:


Volcanic Adventures: Meg shares her unique passion for photographing active volcanoes worldwide, unveiling the fascinating stories behind her captivating images.
Discover Volcanoes.com: Meg delves into the creation of her website, Volcanoes.com, providing a platform to showcase her breathtaking volcanic photography.

Artistry, Addiction, and Sensitivity:


The Artistry-Addiction Nexus: A thoughtful exploration of the delicate intersection between artistry and addiction, emphasizing the sensitive nature of writers and their profound desire to experience the world deeply.

Childhood Fascination:


Young Meg's Discovery: Meg reminisces about her childhood fascination with volcanoes, ignited by a National Geographic article about the eruption of the Surtsey volcano on her 12th birthday.
Journey to Over 30 Volcanoes: Meg's incredible journey unfolds as she recounts visiting over 30 volcanoes, taking awe-inspiring images, from Mount Etna in Sicily to Kilauea in Hawaii.

Spiritual Connection to Volcanoes:


Beyond the Physical: Meg reveals the spiritual draw she feels towards volcanoes, portraying them as symbols of a power greater than herself, intertwining concepts of light and universal energy.

Risk and Addiction:


The Addict's Attraction to Risk: Nanci delves into whether Meg's past curiosity and willingness to  get so close to flowing lava, reflects an addict's attraction to risk.
Perspective as we mature in age and recovery: Meg acknowledges the change in perspective from invincibility in addiction to trusting her common sense with maturity.

Recovery and Artistic Expression:


Dark Moments in Recovery: Meg shares her journey of recovery, including the realization of the severity of her food addiction and attending Food Addicts in Recovery meetings.
Art as Solace: Despite dark moments and loss, Meg finds solace in artistic expression through poetry, offering a unique view on healing.

A Poetic Conclusion:


Meg's Poetic Offering: The episode concludes with Meg reading one of her poignant poems about a spiritual experience in nature, inviting listeners into her world of artistic expression.

 

Connect with Meg

Listeners are encouraged to connect with Meg through her websites, ThePoetsCorner.org, Volcanoes.com and explore the depth of her creative endeavors.

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About The Show

Thank you so much for listening to Season 3 of the LTGW PODCAST dedicated to Artists In Recovery. Get inspired, motivated, and tuned in with honest conversations every week from stories of artists who have been on the dark and light side of both addiction and recovery, as well as to get the resources you need to live an extraordinary expressive life in sobriety. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and be part of this great community.

If you need more guidance on how you can obtain and maintain a sober lifestyle? Connect with Nanci and start your journey today:

Website: https://www.nanciadair.com 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/UkanduCoaching 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachwithnanci/

Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/UKanduCoach

In this episode of the Liars, Thieves, Gluttons, and Whores podcast, hosts Nanci Adair and Mariana Casagrande reflect on their recent interview with glass artist David Jacobson. 

 

1.Introduction to Season 3: Artists in Recovery


Nanci sets the stage, highlighting the podcast's focus on artists navigating the journey of recovery.
Gratitude towards Marianna for connecting them with the intriguing glass artist, David Jacobson.


Ageless Vitality: The Prime of Life at 71


Nanci and Marianna, both in their late 60s, discuss the secret to feeling vibrant—care through diet, exercise, sleep, and sobriety.
David's revelation that, at 71, he's in the prime of his life sparks a fascinating conversation on the ageless nature of creativity.


Embracing Endless Creativity: Art and Recovery


Marianna shares her affinity for the stories of older individuals, finding recovery and artistic pursuits as tools for a creatively fulfilling life.
The juxtaposition of recovery's tools with artistic endeavors, offering boundless avenues for expression and fulfillment.


Fear and Rediscovery: Nanci's Artistic Journey in Sobriety


Nanci opens up about the fear of losing her drawing ability early in sobriety and the surprising resurgence through fiber arts like quilting.
David's parallel experience—waiting 7 years in sobriety to return to glassblowing, his true passion.


Analyzing David's Artistic Evolution: A Journey Unveiled


Marianna delves into David's transformation, from a successful cartoonist to a fulfilled glass artist, highlighting the persistence required in the latter.
Unveiling the layers of David's soul covered by alcohol and the significance of his return to glass at 7 years sober.


Recovery as a Catalyst: From Coping to Authenticating Values


Nanci reflects on how drawing helped her cope with food cravings.
Marianna emphasizes recovery as a journey to authenticate personal values against societal conditioning and finding true internal power.


Glassblowing as Spiritual Manifestation: Bridging the Physical and Spiritual


Marianna draws parallels between glassblowing and manifesting spiritual ideas physically.
Exploring the profound connection between artistic expression and spiritual fulfillment in recovery.


Don't Give Up on Possibilities


Marianna's empowering message to listeners: don't give up on yourself or the possibilities ahead.
The hosts encourage staying connected in the recovery community for continued support and inspiration.


Stay Connected and Explore Possibilities


The hosts wrap up by promoting the podcast and urging listeners to stay connected within the recovery community.
An invitation to explore the endless possibilities that recovery and artistic expression can bring into one's life.

 

Connect With Marianna Casagranda

Website: https://www.mariannacasagranda.com/

Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/marianna.casagranda.7

 

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About The Show

Thank you so much for listening to Season 3 of the LTGW PODCAST dedicated to Artists In Recovery. Get inspired, motivated, and tuned in with honest conversations every week from stories of people who have been on the dark and light side of both addiction and recovery, as well as experts to get the resources you need to live an extraordinary life in sobriety. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and be part of this great community.

 

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Set the scene for the podcast episode featuring glassblower David Jacobson, highlighting his dual narrative of addiction and artistic career.

Breaking Anonymity for a Greater Cause:


Explore David's initial hesitation to break his anonymity in recovery programs for a public interview.
Emphasize his decision to share his journey as a means of spreading the powerful message of recovery.

Life Before and After Recovery:


Nanci Adair prompts David to compare his life before and after recovery.
David's vivid description of his pre-recovery life as "hell" contrasted with his current sentiment that, at 71, he's in the prime of his life.

Defying Expectations in Long-Term Recovery:


Highlight the unexpected improvements in both David and Nanci's lives the longer they remain in recovery.
Discuss David's thriving career as a glassblower, challenging the notion that certain dreams are unattainable.

The Artistic Calling and Struggle with Addiction:


Trace David's introduction to glassblowing back to college and the years of addiction that followed.
Explore how developing recovery tools, including faith, discipline, and hope, empowered David to fully pursue glassblowing in his 50s.

The Turning Point: Acknowledging Alcoholism:


Share David's journey of realization, initially resisting the label of alcoholic despite ongoing issues.
Describe the pivotal moment when, desperate for help, he found solace in an AA meeting and gradually accepted his alcoholism.

Self-Identification and Reaching Rock Bottom:


Discuss the commonality between David and Nanci in not self-identifying as addicts until reaching their own personal rock bottom.
Nanci shares her parallel experience of recognizing her addictive patterns.

Words of Wisdom and Encouragement:


Conclude with David's encouraging message to listeners: "don't stop, don't quit."
Emphasize the transformative nature of recovery and the ability to pursue dreams and talents despite doubts, drawing inspiration from others' successes.

Closing Reflection:


Wrap up the episode by leaving listeners with a powerful story of recovery through the arts, reinforcing the theme of hope and resilience.

 

Connect With David Jacobson

Website: https://www.davidjacobsonglass.com/

Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/DavidJacobsonGlass

 

Listen to LTGW Podcast

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About The Show

Thank you so much for listening to Season 3 of the LTGW PODCAST dedicated to Artists In Recovery. Get inspired, motivated, and tuned in with honest conversations every week from stories of people who have been on the dark and light side of both addiction and recovery, as well as experts to get the resources you need to live an extraordinary life in sobriety. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and be part of this great community.

 

If you need more guidance on how you can obtain and maintain a sober lifestyle? 

Connect with Nanci and start your journey today:

Website: https://www.nanciadair.com 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/UkanduCoaching 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachwithnanci/

Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/UKanduCoach

Set the stage by introducing the Liars, Thieves, Gluttons, and Whores podcast and its hosts, Nanci Adair and Marianna Casagranda.

Recap of Eric Howell's Journey:


Dive into the aftermath of the interview with artist Eric Howell, focusing on his battle with alcohol addiction and his inspiring path to recovery.

The Deceptive Nature of Excessive Drinking:


Marianna's reflections on the "nebulousness" surrounding alcohol consumption.
Nanci's recollection of Eric's startling admission of 30 drinks per day, despite not identifying as an alcoholic.

Denial and Drinking Companions:


The hosts candidly discuss Marianna's struggle with denial and they share experiences of surrounding themselves with heavier drinkers to avoid confronting their own issues.

Alcohol's Distortion of Reality:


Explore how alcohol distorts rational thinking and disconnects individuals from reality.
Note Eric's depression despite the absence of physical withdrawal, highlighting the depressive nature of alcohol.

The Numbing Effect of Alcohol:


Marianna's insight into the numbing effect of alcohol on both pain and the ability to experience joy.
Eric's early recovery struggles with questioning if he could ever feel joy again.

Joyful Transformation in Recovery:


Celebrate Eric's transformative journey to joy through marriage, cycling, and fatherhood.
Reflect on the hosts' appreciation for the power of recovery in reshaping lives and relationships.

Art as an Outlet for Pain and Trauma:


Delve into the age-old debate about the connection between art and troubled souls or trauma.
Nanci's belief in divinely-inspired art and Marianna's exploration of spiritual purposes in early art, citing cave drawings.

Being Channels for Divine Creativity:


Explore the hosts' perspective on themselves as channels for divine creative energies.
Nanci's experience of translating higher ideas into reality and Marianna's analogy of birthing ideas akin to labor and childbirth.

Conclusion: Sharing Stories of Hope:


Express hope that sharing recovery stories through art will inspire others to find value and purpose in sobriety.
Appreciate Eric's journey and newfound joy as a father committed to continuous growth.

Closing Thoughts:


Encourage listeners to join the hosts in their ongoing exploration of transformative tales and recovery journeys.

 

Connect With Marianna Casagranda

Website: https://www.mariannacasagranda.com/

Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/marianna.casagranda.7

 

Listen to LTGW Podcast

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About The Show

Thank you so much for listening to Season 3 of the LTGW PODCAST dedicated to Artists In Recovery. Get inspired, motivated, and tuned in with honest conversations every week from stories of people who have been on the dark and light side of both addiction and recovery, as well as experts to get the resources you need to live an extraordinary life in sobriety. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram and be part of this great community.

 

If you need more guidance on how you can obtain and maintain a sober lifestyle? Connect with Nanci and start your journey today:

Website: https://www.nanciadair.com 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/UkanduCoaching 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachwithnanci/

Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/UKanduCoach