The Corner Series

McGuireWoods

“The Corner Series” is a multiperspective podcast series by McGuireWoods featuring commentaries from lawyers, bankers and a number of specialists about the developments and issues dominating today’s middle-market private equity. Tune in with McGuireWoods partner, Geoff Cockrell as he and specialists share real-world insight to help enhance your knowledge. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters. To learn more about our discussions, please email host Geoff Cockrell at gcockrell@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com. This series was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this series, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this installment. The views, information or opinions expressed are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This series should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

  1. 15 HR AGO

    Episode 130: Oncology and Retina: Follow the Drug Spend, With Jeanne Proia

    Oncology commands roughly 40% of the national drug spend. Retina is close behind. “If you follow the drug spend, you’ll find that the distributors are really building an ecosystem around it,” says Jeanne Proia, managing director at Cross Keys Capital and president of its healthcare services group. In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell, Jeanne unpacks the market. Unlike traditional PE deals, she says, these transactions leave physicians holding their own equity inside a long-term MSO relationship, trading the second bite at the apple for cash upfront and taking the risk off. As she explains: “They’re able to bring a lot more synergies just because they’re getting to be bigger and bigger, and they can use that money to support all the synergies, whether it’s clinical trials, recruiting or RCM.” Connect and Learn More☑️ Jeanne Proia | LinkedIn ☑️ Cross Keys Capital | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    21 min
  2. 23 APR

    Episode 129 Special Crossover Edition: McGuireWoods Healthcare PE Conference Preview

    This special episode is a crossover between The Corner Series and Provident’s Healthcare DealCast released across both McGuireWoods’ and Provident Healthcare Partners’ channels. McGuireWoods partner Geoff Cockrell is joined by Steve Grassa, director of Provident Healthcare Partners, for a wide-ranging discussion on the healthcare services landscape including the provider services market, opportunities for emerging buyers and what defines an “A-caliber” asset. This conversation also serves as a preview of McGuireWoods’ Healthcare Private Equity Conference later this month, where Geoff will lead a banker-focused panel discussion. Connect and Learn More☑️ Steve Grassa ☑️ Provident Healthcare Partners on LinkedIn | YouTube ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    22 min
  3. 16 APR

    Episode 128: Building a Gastroenterology Program That’s ‘Second to None’, With Matt Devine

    How did Allied Digestive Health build a gastroenterology program that’s “second to none” with roughly 200 gastroenterologists across New York and New Jersey? CEO Matt Devine unpacks the strategies, such as investing in technology and having one EMR across the platform that’s world class. “If we’re just going out and getting larger, that’s nice and that’s admirable. But what we really need to do at the end of the day is improve outcomes. And that’s what our doctors take pride in every day,” he tells McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell. Tune in for Matt’s insights about what Geoff calls the “triple aims” in healthcare: improving outcomes, improving access and controlling system cost. Connect and Learn More☑️ Matt Devine | LinkedIn ☑️ Allied Digestive Health | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X | YouTube ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    22 min
  4. 8 APR

    Episode 127: ‘Medicine is Local’: Partnering With Emergency Departments, With Kevin Baker

    “Our big mantra is: ‘Medicine is local,’ ” says Kevin Baker, who partners with emergency medicine groups across the United States in his role as director of development at Emergency Care Partners. In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell, Kevin lays out the landscape of the U.S. emergency department sector, where about a third of hospitals now in-source their physicians. He unpacks the major headwinds facing emergency department operators: patient boarding, NSA fallout, declining reimbursement and EMTALA’s built-in bad debt burden. Tune in to hear what he describes as the biggest competition Emergency Care Partners faced — it may surprise you. Connect and Learn More☑️ Kevin Baker | LinkedIn ☑️ Emergency Care Partners | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    23 min
  5. 25 MAR

    Episode 126: QSBS, Tax Benefit Unlike Any Other, With Shahrooz Shahnavaz

    One of the most misunderstood provisions in the entire tax code, the Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS) has been around for more than 30 years. Yet it remained largely dormant — until now. The QSBS is “unlike anything in the code,” says Shahrooz Shahnavaz, a tax partner at McGuireWoods. In this conversation with colleague and host Geoff Cockrell, Shahrooz reviews the history of this unique benefit and puts it into context for today’s M&A deal-makers. Tune in for his insights on the potential 100% exclusion of gain, the structural limits that bar some professions — including healthcare — from qualifying, and the One Big Beautiful Bill Act’s “generous” $15 million per-shareholder, per-company cap. Connect and Learn More☑️ Shahrooz Shahnavaz | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    23 min
  6. 12 MAR

    Episode 125: Opportunities in Home and Alternate Site Infusion, with Don Hooker

    Home and alternate-site infusion therapy is a highly fragmented market. Just two large players command 35% to 40% market share while more than 800 smaller providers making up the remainder. And that fragmentation is exactly what's drawing private equity interest. Don Hooker, director of research at Bourne Partners, a leading life science investment firm, joins McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell to unpack the investment landscape. Don explains that delivering drugs at home or in alternate sites can cost roughly half as much as treatment in an inpatient setting. He also outlines the two main pressures shaping the home infusion space. Tune in for his insights about reimbursement dynamics, labor intensity, drug pricing and “back-end" strategic buyers such as Option Care Health. Connect and Learn More☑️ Don Hooker | LinkedIn ☑️ Bourne Partners | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    21 min
  7. 18 FEB

    Episode 124: The Era of Physician Practice Consolidation, With Ezra Simons

    Fifty years ago, the United States had 75 car companies. Today, there are fewer than five. The same consolidation dynamics are reshaping physician practice management, says Ezra Simons, a co-founder and partner at Physician Growth Partners, which has been on the leading edge of consolidation in provider practices nationwide. “I think what we’ll see over the next 10 years of physician practice management is mergers of equals.” Those that separate themselves and grow are those that have unique skills to offer their affiliated practices, he says. In this conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell, Ezra explores how the provider services M&A landscape has evolved since Physician Growth Partners launched: While dermatology was the huge piece of the market then, the activity today is in urology, orthopedics and cardiology. He looks ahead to the next evolution: philosophical alignment among sponsors and private equity groups. “I think what we’re starting to see are people trying to figure out engagement and provider alignment first and then where to translate that to.” Connect and Learn More☑️ Ezra Simons | LinkedIn ☑️ Physicians Growth Partners | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    28 min
  8. 4 FEB

    Episode 123: New Exit Opportunities in Provider Services M&A, With Michael Kroin

    From his perspective as CEO and managing partner at Physician Growth Partners, Michael Kroin sees an “interesting time” where different types of buyers are getting into the provider services sector at the same time that payers are aggressively pursuing independent practices. “You see payers start to have interest in these private equity-backed groups as well or continue to have interest. So, that provides a number of exit opportunities for these private equity-backed groups that they historically haven't evaluated,” he explained to host Geoff Cockrell. Tune in to hear Michael discuss how strategic and financial buyers now coexist in a specialty-specific landscape, how M&A activity is reopening downstream after years of balance sheet constraints and why geography matters due to state-level restrictions on the corporate practice of medicine. Connect and Learn More☑️ Michael Kroin | LinkedIn ☑️ Physician Growth Partners | LinkedIn ☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn ☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X ☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon Music This podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

    26 min

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“The Corner Series” is a multiperspective podcast series by McGuireWoods featuring commentaries from lawyers, bankers and a number of specialists about the developments and issues dominating today’s middle-market private equity. Tune in with McGuireWoods partner, Geoff Cockrell as he and specialists share real-world insight to help enhance your knowledge. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we do gives our clients a competitive edge in everything they do. Our law firm, over its 186-year history, has earned the loyalty of our many long-standing clients with a deep understanding of their businesses, and broad skills in corporate transactions, high-stakes disputes, and complex regulatory and compliance matters. To learn more about our discussions, please email host Geoff Cockrell at gcockrell@mcguirewoods.com or visit our website at mcguirewoods.com. This series was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this series, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this installment. The views, information or opinions expressed are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This series should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

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