TBPN

John Coogan & Jordi Hays

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

  1. 2 hr ago

    Blue Origin Explosion, Enterprise AI Hits Spending Limits, Dinosaur Market Booms | John Gruber, Ronak Malde, Zane Mountcastle, Jamie Cuffe, Kyle Kuzma, Brad Gerstner

    (00:43) - Blue Origin Explosion (07:38) - Enterprise AI Hits Spending Limits (21:48) - Dinosaur Market Booms (29:13) - John Gruber, a prominent technology writer and podcaster, discusses the Ferrari Luce's design, expressing that its appearance deviates from traditional Ferrari aesthetics, making it hard to identify as a Ferrari without its nameplate. He also reflects on Apple's design philosophy, emphasizing their commitment to creating products that prioritize functionality and user experience over following market trends. Additionally, Gruber highlights the challenges Apple faces in integrating AI technologies, noting the importance of balancing innovation with maintaining the company's core values and user trust. (01:11:16) - Ronak Malde, formerly an AI researcher at Windsurf and Google DeepMind, co-founded Trajectory, a startup focused on building a platform for continual learning in AI systems. In the conversation, he discusses raising $15 million from Conviction and partnering with companies like Harvey, Decagon, Clay, Rogo, and Mercor to develop agents that learn from real-world user interactions, enabling AI products to improve daily. Malde emphasizes the importance of creating AI agents with practical experience that understand business-specific rewards, allowing for efficient post-training and continual enhancement of AI capabilities. (01:19:18) - Zane Mountcastle, co-founder and CEO of Picogrid, discusses the company's recent $45 million Series A funding led by Bessemer Venture Partners, aimed at expanding their team and scaling production to meet increasing demand. He explains that Picogrid develops technology to integrate mission-critical systems like sensors, drones, and weapon systems, primarily for military applications, by building open infrastructure that enables these systems to work together. Mountcastle also highlights the company's active contracts with the Pentagon, NATO, and allied partners, emphasizing their focus on serving military needs while acknowledging potential future commercial applications. (01:25:10) - Jamie Cuffe, CEO of Pace, announced the company's $46 million Series B funding co-led by Thrive Capital and Sequoia, with participation from Emergence and Pruven. He discussed how Pace's AI agents are automating back-office operations for major insurers like Prudential and Convex, achieving over 99.9% accuracy and enabling clients to autonomously complete hundreds of thousands of tasks daily. Cuffe emphasized that this automation is helping insurers close the $9 trillion protection gap by making insurance more accessible and efficient. (01:32:57) - Kyle Kuzma, an American professional basketball player for the Milwaukee Bucks, discusses his journey into investing, inspired by mentors like Kobe Bryant, and emphasizes the importance of focusing on basketball while exploring ventures in the tech and private investment sectors. He highlights the significance of leveraging his unique position as an athlete to access investment opportunities and stresses the value of surrounding himself with knowledgeable individuals to navigate the complexities of the investment landscape. Kuzma also touches on the evolving role of AI in basketball, expressing a cautious perspective on its influence on the game. (01:50:08) - Brad Gerstner is the founder and CEO of Altimeter Capital, a technology-focused investment firm that invests across public and private markets. Known for his high-conviction bets on companies such as Snowflake, Meta, and Uber, he is a frequent commentator on technology, AI, capital markets, and long-term investing. Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2h 38m
  2. 3 days ago

    Ferrari EV, Enhanced Games, Alcohol & Podcasting | Christopher Hale, Sean Henry, Eric Ries, Alex Atallah

    (00:27) - Ferrari EV (40:58) - Enhanced Games (47:41) - Christopher Hale, a Catholic writer and former executive director of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, discusses Pope Leo XIV's recent encyclical on artificial intelligence, highlighting the Pope's emphasis on maintaining human dignity and responsibility in technological advancements. He notes the Pope's concern over delegating human decisions to machines, especially in contexts like warfare, and underscores the call for Silicon Valley to consider the ethical implications of AI development. (01:10:48) - Alcohol & Podcasting (01:17:21) - Sean Henry, co-founder and CEO of Stord, announced the company's recent $250 million funding round, elevating its valuation to $3 billion. He discussed Stord's decade-long development of a vertically integrated platform that leverages robotics and AI to enhance commerce, enabling faster deliveries and cost efficiencies. Henry also highlighted the launch of Stord Labs, dedicated to testing next-generation robotics and AI, and the company's international expansion into markets like Canada, Europe, China, and Australia. (01:31:05) - Eric Ries is an entrepreneur and author best known for The Lean Startup, which helped popularize iterative product development and rapid experimentation in startups. He is also the author of The Startup Way and Incorruptible, where he explores institutional trust, governance, and how organizations can remain resilient and accountable at scale. (02:09:45) - Alex Atallah, co-founder and CEO of OpenRouter, discusses the evolution of AI models and the importance of neurodiversity in AI agents selecting cost-effective tools for specific tasks. He highlights OpenRouter's recent $113 million funding round, led by Capital G with participation from existing investors and strategic partners like Nvidia, ServiceNow, and Databricks, emphasizing the company's commitment to fostering a diverse team. Atallah also addresses the trend of companies optimizing AI inference costs by utilizing multiple models tailored to specific tasks, leading to significant cost savings and improved performance. (02:22:45) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2h 25m
  3. 22 May

    Starship Launch, World's Fair Retrospective, Sacks Spikes AI EO | Dan Shipper, James Rogers

    (01:01) - Sacks Spikes AI EO (07:56) - America's IPO Market Wakes Up (17:47) - Starship Launch (28:28) - World's Fair Retrospective (45:46) - Dan Shipper, co-founder and CEO of Every, discusses the transformative impact of AI agents like Codex and Claude Code on knowledge work, highlighting how these tools have automated tasks in coding, writing, design, and customer service, leading to Every's growth from 4 to 30 employees since GPT-3. He emphasizes that while AI makes expert competence more accessible, it simultaneously increases the demand for human expertise to provide judgment and differentiation, as AI outputs often require human framing and evaluation to be truly valuable. Shipper also notes that AI enables small, generalist teams to accomplish tasks that previously required larger, specialized organizations, allowing for a more fulfilling and versatile work experience. (01:09:01) - James Rogers is the founder and CEO of Apeel Sciences, a company developing plant-based coatings that extend the shelf life of fresh produce and reduce food waste. He launched the company out of research funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, with a focus on improving global food distribution and sustainability through materials science. Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    2h 2m

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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

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