The Website Growth Show

Rana Shahbaz

Welcome to The Website Growth Show, brought to you by WP Minds.On this show, we speak with business owners, agency leaders, and marketers to uncover what’s working to grow their websites in today’s fast-changing, AI world.Whether you’re building from scratch or trying to level up your current site, you’re in the right place.

  1. Why Your Website Is the Foundation of Local SEO Growth | Greg Gifford

    3 DAYS AGO

    Why Your Website Is the Foundation of Local SEO Growth | Greg Gifford

    SEO-optimised, human-written, no exaggerated claims, fully YouTube-compliant. Most businesses think local SEO success means higher rankings. That mindset is holding them back. In this episode of The Website Growth Show, Rana Shahbaz speaks with Greg Gifford, one of the most respected voices in local SEO, about why your website is the real foundation of local SEO growth, not ranking reports or map grids. Greg explains why rankings are a vanity metric, how websites actually influence Google Business Profile visibility, and what businesses should focus on if they want more calls, leads, and sales instead of green boxes in reports. This conversation is essential for business owners, marketers, and agencies who want to improve website performance, understand modern local SEO, and adapt to AI-driven search changes. What You’ll Learn Why rankings are not a reliable measure of SEO success How websites drive real local SEO growth Why your website matters more than your Google Business Profile How local SEO is different from traditional SEO Why conversions matter more than traffic The role of content, links, and reviews in local visibility How AI search is changing website traffic and intent Why long-tail search drives better business results Common website mistakes that hurt local SEO How to think strategically about website growth 👤 About Greg Gifford Greg Gifford is a leading local SEO expert, speaker, and educator with over a decade of experience helping businesses improve local visibility and conversions. He is known for his practical, no-nonsense approach to SEO and for teaching marketers how to focus on what actually drives results. ⏱️ Optional Timestamps 00:00 Why rankings are the wrong goal  01:30 How Greg got into local SEO  04:20 What real local SEO success looks like  06:10 Why websites matter more than map grids  07:50 Local SEO vs traditional SEO  10:00 Why shortcuts do not work  11:15 Review recency explained  14:00 The value of local SEO in real money terms  20:30 AI search and changing click behaviour  24:20 Why losing traffic is not always bad  28:50 Local SEO for national businesses  31:40 Website structure and internal linking  34:30 Common local SEO myths  40:20 How to approach keyword research today  46:20 Long-tail keywords and conversions  49:30 Where to follow Greg 📌 Subscribe for Weekly Episodes On Website growth Local SEO Website strategy Conversions and leads SEO in an AI-driven world #websitegrowth #seo #businessgrowth #podcast Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    51 min
  2. Website Strategy for Manufacturing Companies (What Actually Works)

    5 FEB

    Website Strategy for Manufacturing Companies (What Actually Works)

    Most manufacturing websites look professional, but very few actually support sales, marketing, or long-term growth. In this episode of The Website Growth Show, Rana Shahbaz speaks with Judd Lyon, a web strategist with deep experience working with manufacturing and B2B organisations, about what actually works when it comes to website strategy for manufacturing companies. This conversation breaks down why manufacturing websites require a different approach from typical service or e-commerce sites. From long sales cycles and multiple decision-makers to complex products and internal alignment challenges, Judd explains how strategy, messaging, and structure must work together for a manufacturing website to drive real business outcomes. If your manufacturing website feels disconnected from sales, fails to generate qualified leads, or keeps getting redesigned without results, this episode will help you rethink how your website should function as part of your growth system. What You’ll Learn What website strategy for manufacturing companies really means Why most manufacturing websites fail to generate leads Why strategy matters more than design for manufacturers How to improve messaging for technical and industrial buyers The role of navigation and information architecture in complex websites Why redesigns often fail without strategic alignment How to align sales, marketing, and website goals One practical step manufacturers can take to improve their website About Judd Lyon Judd Lyon is a web strategist with over 20 years of experience helping manufacturing and B2B companies build websites that support real business goals. He specialises in strategy-led website development, information architecture, and aligning complex offerings with clear, effective messaging. Timestamps 00:00 Why manufacturing websites struggle 01:40 What makes manufacturing websites different 04:30 Why design alone does not fix website problems 08:10 What website strategy really means 12:20 Messaging for technical buyers 16:30 Structuring content for long sales cycles 21:10 Navigation and information architecture 26:00 Why redesigns often fail 31:30 Aligning sales, marketing, and website goals 37:00 One action manufacturers can take today 📌 Subscribe for Weekly Episodes On Website strategy Manufacturing websites B2B marketing fundamentals Website growth and conversions SEO and content for complex businesses #websitegrowth #websitestrategy #businessgrowth  Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    52 min
  3. Stop Treating Your Website Like a Brochure

    29 JAN

    Stop Treating Your Website Like a Brochure

    Your website isn’t a 24/7 salesperson, but it is the legitimizer that turns curiosity into trust—and trust into revenue. We walk through a practical, math-first approach to make your site the strongest link in your growth engine, from brand positioning to UX to the data that proves ROI. Angela Hill, a fractional CMO with three decades in the trenches, shares how she maps profitable revenue backwards into clear conversion targets, then builds the messaging, navigation, and design that help buyers move with confidence. We dig into the “party” model: make the party great (clear messaging, intuitive navigation, credible design), then send the right invitations (SEO, AdWords, email, social, and video). You’ll learn how to choose a side with your message, structure pages the way customers think, and use design psychology to serve both emotional and analytical buyers. We also get tactical about measurement, from multi-touch cadences and CRM-integrated automation to heatmaps, scroll maps, and technical SEO audits that reveal friction you won’t find in Google Analytics. Paid media isn’t for everyone, so we break down how to test small with tight geo and dayparting, judge success by conversions and closed-won revenue, and blend channels based on budget and team capacity. Expect concrete examples, including a real-world leap in revenue by automating signatures and extending attribution. If AI Overviews and LLMs have you rethinking search, you’ll get a simple framework to create content for traditional SEO, answer engines, and conversational queries. Ready to stop leaking opportunity and start compounding wins? Follow the playbook, measure what matters, and let your website do the job it was meant to do. Enjoyed this conversation and want more like it? Subscribe, share with a teammate who needs it, and leave a quick review to help others find the show. Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    40 min
  4. Why Your Business Needs to Be Blogging (Even in an AI World)

    22 JAN

    Why Your Business Needs to Be Blogging (Even in an AI World)

    Is blogging still worth it for businesses today? In this episode of The Website Growth Show, we break down why your business needs to be blogging, even in a world dominated by AI, video, and declining organic clicks. Ryan Robinson shares real, experience-backed insights from over 15 years of blogging, building businesses, and adapting through every major shift in SEO, content, and search. This conversation is especially relevant for business owners who feel blogging no longer works or are unsure where to focus their efforts. Rather than chasing traffic alone, this episode explains how blogging now supports trust, authority, video content, email lists, AI discovery, and long-term business growth. If you are a consultant, coach, service business owner, or professional brand wondering whether blogging still matters, this episode will give you clarity and a realistic path forward. 🔍 What You’ll Learn Why your business needs to be blogging in today’s AI-driven search landscape What blogging looks like now compared to 10 years ago Why text-only blogging is no longer enough How blogs support video, AI tools, and authority building Why publishing AI-only content does not work How blogging acts as training data for AI and search engines The role of blogging in trust, credibility, and conversions How to use blogging to support services, products, and email growth Why quality matters more than publishing volume Common blogging mistakes businesses still make 👤 About Ryan Robinson Ryan Robinson is a long-time blogger, content strategist, and founder of RightBlogger. He helps business owners and creators build sustainable businesses using blogging, video, SEO, tools, and email rather than relying on short-term traffic tactics. ⏱️ Optional Timestamps 00:00 Is blogging still worth it for businesses  01:10 Why blogging feels broken today  03:00 Ryan’s 15-year blogging journey  07:05 What blogging looks like in an AI world  09:40 Why businesses need video and blogs together  12:25 How blogs train AI and search engines  16:40 How long blog posts should be today  19:15 Quality vs quantity in blogging  22:00 Updating and refreshing old content  25:50 Why informational traffic is declining  28:00 What type of content still works  33:45 The role of email lists  38:30 Common blogging mistakes  46:30 How to start blogging today 📌 Subscribe for Weekly Episodes On Website growth Blogging for business SEO fundamentals Content strategy AI and search Sustainable marketing systems #blogging #podcast #websitegrowth Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    51 min
  5. How to Market Your Business Without Overwhelm (Simple Website + Email Strategy) | Dave Charest

    15 JAN

    How to Market Your Business Without Overwhelm (Simple Website + Email Strategy) | Dave Charest

    Feeling stretched thin by ever-changing platforms and endless marketing advice? We sat down with Dave Charest, Director of Small Business Success at Constant Contact, to chart a calmer, clearer route to growth. Dave has spent two decades translating complex marketing into plain English and actionable steps, and he brings a refreshingly grounded approach: simplify your message, own your audience, and take consistent action. We start by naming the real culprit: marketing overwhelm. Dave breaks down how FOMO and scattered tactics drain time and confidence, then shows how focus brings momentum. You’ll learn the four questions every homepage must answer—what is it, who is it for, so what, and what’s next—and how removing sliders, vague headlines, and clutter can raise conversions fast. We dig into value-first list building with examples that work today, from a pizzeria offering free garlic knots to service pros using content upgrades and delayed pop-ups that fit the moment. From there, we map a simple email growth ladder: send a welcome email that delivers immediately, establish a cadence you can keep, then layer in segmentation and light automation. Dave shares practical plays like click segmentation to identify intent (think “Need Catering?”) and how announcement, reminder, and last-chance emails convert without being pushy. We also explore the RPE framework—Review, Plan, Execute—to help you choose priorities, protect time, and move forward without burnout. And in a world of AI-generated sameness, Dave makes a powerful case for showing your face and point of view to build trust and stand out. If you want a strategic, human way to turn your website and email into a reliable growth engine, this conversation gives you the steps to start this week. Subscribe, share with a fellow founder who’s stuck in the weeds, and leave a quick review to tell us which tactic you’ll try first. Are you feeling the marketing overwhelm as an entrepreneur? This marketing podcast episode addresses how businesses often create resources without considering the reality of a small business owner's life. Also, offer practical marketing tips and a solid marketing strategy to help achieve business success without falling into the FOMO trap of new online marketing trends. In this episode of The Website Growth Show, Rana Shahbaz sits down with Dave Charest, Director of Small Business Success at Constant Contact, to talk about why marketing feels overwhelming for small business owners and how to simplify it without losing results. Dave has spent over 20 years helping business owners use their website and email list as reliable growth tools instead of chasing every new marketing trend. This conversation is designed for business owners who feel stuck, overwhelmed, or unsure what to focus on next. What You’ll Learn in This Episode ✅ What marketing overwhelm really is and why it happens ✅ Why doing everything is hurting your growth ✅ How to simplify your website message so people understand it fast ✅ The four questions every homepage must answer ✅ Why your website is still your most important marketing asset ✅ How to collect email addresses without annoying visitors ✅ What actually wor Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    51 min
  6. How to Increase E-commerce Conversions Without More Traffic | Simon Peat

    8 JAN

    How to Increase E-commerce Conversions Without More Traffic | Simon Peat

    Getting traffic to your E-commerce store but struggling to make sales? In this episode of The Website Growth Show, E-commerce conversion expert Simon Peat explains why most E-commerce stores fail to convert even when traffic is strong and how small fixes can lead to massive revenue gains. Simon shares real examples where brands doubled conversions not by redesigning everything, but by fixing checkout friction, unclear messaging, and hidden trust signals. If your E-commerce store looks good but customers do not complete purchases, this episode will show you exactly where to look first. What You Will Learn Why traffic does not equal sales in E-commerce The number one checkout mistake killing conversions How unclear messaging blocks buying decisions Why social proof must be visible immediately How one wellness brand doubled conversions from 2 to 3 per cent to over 5 per cent Why ShopPay and frictionless checkout matter How subscriptions increase customer lifetime value when done right What conversion leaks are and how to spot them Why mobile experience is costing most stores over half their sales Which ecommerce data actually matters, and what to ignore About Simon Peat Simon Peat is an E-commerce conversion specialist with nearly 20 years of experience helping established online stores increase revenue from existing traffic. He focuses on data led optimisation, checkout flow improvements, and removing friction from the buying journey. You can find Simon on LinkedIn, where he shares practical, real world ecommerce conversion advice. Resources (mentioned) Simon Peat (LinkedIn): https://bit.ly/4qLmBAk Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:55 Why people trust people, not brands 02:20 Guest intro: Simon Peat 03:58 How Simon helps brands add £50K+ revenue 05:22 Why eCommerce sites fail to convert 06:35 Social proof & trust mistakes 06:55 How to identify conversion problems using data 08:02 Checkout issues killing conversions 10:31 Case study: Shopify wellness brand 12:27 Subscription optimization & Shop Pay 14:12 From 2–3% to 5–6% conversion rate 18:10 Traffic leaks explained 22:03 Using Google Analytics the right way 24:47 Mobile conversion mistakes 30:50 The discount trap 35:05 Quick CRO wins founders can fix in one afternoon 38:11 Where to find Simon Peat 38:43 Outro Website growth Ecommerce conversions SEO and UX Messaging clarity Revenue optimization  #CROeCommerce #IncreaseOnlineSales #TrafficButNoSales #MobileOptimization #EcommerceCaseStudy #CustomerLifetimeValue #ShopPay #WebsiteConversions #GrowthMarketing #DataDrivenMarketing  Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    39 min
  7. How Social Media + Storytelling Can Drive Direct Bookings (Without Paid Ads!) | Debbie Miller

    25/12/2025

    How Social Media + Storytelling Can Drive Direct Bookings (Without Paid Ads!) | Debbie Miller

    Most hospitality brands struggle to drive direct bookings online. They try posting on Instagram, Facebook, and maybe even LinkedIn, but with little traction, low ROI, and even lower engagement. In this episode of The Website Growth Show, we sat down with Debbie Miller, founder of Social Hospitality, to unpack: ✅ How to make social media actually drive traffic to your website ✅ Why storytelling content (not salesy posts) gets the best results ✅ The secret to generating $30K+ revenue from ONE quirky email campaign ✅ How hotels can reduce reliance on Booking.com and OTAs ✅ Why your website is still your best growth asset (if you use it right) ✅ How AI is changing content creation, search, and strategy ✅ The new rules of “interest media” vs “social media” If you’re a hotel, law firm, or small business owner struggling to grow your online presence, this episode will show you how to use authentic marketing and strategic content to drive real-world business growth. 🔗 More from Debbie Website: https://socialhospitality.com LinkedIn: Debbie Miller on LinkedIn #socialmediamarketing #organicsocialmedia #contentmarketing #digitalmarketing #strategy #businessgrowth #marketing #podcast Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    37 min
  8. The Traffic First Approach to Explosive Business Growth with Nick Eubanks

    18/12/2025

    The Traffic First Approach to Explosive Business Growth with Nick Eubanks

    Zero-click searches. AI overviews. Rising ad costs. For many businesses, traffic feels harder to earn than ever. But today’s guest believes we are not entering the end of SEO. We are entering the most exciting era of search yet. Nick Eubanks is VP of Owned Media at Semrush, a lifelong “traffic junkie,” and one of the sharpest minds in digital strategy today. Over the past 20 years, Nick has built, bought, and scaled digital assets by mastering one thing: how and where audiences actually discover brands. In this episode, Nick breaks down why the old “rank on Google and wait” playbook is breaking, and how businesses can shift from chasing clicks to owning attention across Google, YouTube, TikTok, Amazon, Reddit, and even ChatGPT. If you want your website to become a true growth engine, not just a brochure, this conversation will change how you think about traffic forever. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why Nick calls himself a “traffic junkie” and how that mindset shaped his career Why SEO is not dying, but search has expanded far beyond Google What “Search Everywhere Optimization” really means for SMEs How AI is changing discovery without killing SEO fundamentals Why informational content still matters, but formats must evolve The traffic-first approach: find sustainable traffic before figuring out what to sell How Nick helped a global brand generate $60M in organic revenue from a single page Why owned media (blogs, newsletters, communities, content assets) is the most defensible growth strategy today The shift from click share to surface share in an AI-driven world The first step any business should take when building an owned media strategy Nick’s billboard advice for growing traffic in 2025 and beyond A Standout Story from the Episode Nick shares one of the most powerful SEO case studies you will ever hear. A multi-billion-dollar travel brand could not rank for its most valuable keyword despite working with an agency for seven years. In one meeting, Nick spotted a single canonical tag error. Removing it moved the page from page two to page one in days. After a year of focused optimization, that single page went on to generate $60 million in organic revenue in one year, the largest attributable SEO win Nick has ever seen. Key Mindset Shift “Stop chasing algorithms. Start owning surfaces.” Nick explains why businesses must think less about rankings and more about where their audience looks for answers, what they trust, and how to show up across every surface that matters. About the Guest Nick Eubanks is VP of Owned Media at Semrush and a veteran digital strategist with over two decades of experience in SEO, product-led growth, and digital asset acquisition. He has built agencies, lead generation businesses, affiliate sites, communities, and media brands, including Traffic Think Tank, and now leads Semrush’s owned media strategy. Send a text Support the show Follow us on our social channels: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WPminds/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wp_minds/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wp-minds/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wp_minds X (Twitter): https://x.com/wpminds Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/website-growth-show/id1840905450

    34 min

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Welcome to The Website Growth Show, brought to you by WP Minds.On this show, we speak with business owners, agency leaders, and marketers to uncover what’s working to grow their websites in today’s fast-changing, AI world.Whether you’re building from scratch or trying to level up your current site, you’re in the right place.