being humn

Rob and Curt

being humn, is a show about making marketing human again. Hosts Rob and Curt—co-founders of the HUMN agency—share real conversations, proven frameworks, and practical insights to help brands connect deeply with their customers. If you care about clarity, empathy, and marketing that actually works, this podcast is for you.

Episodes

  1. SEO in the Age of AI with Jake Britton from WiseBear Creative

    09/16/2025

    SEO in the Age of AI with Jake Britton from WiseBear Creative

    Struggling with SEO that doesn’t drive results? In this episode of Being HUMN, Rob and Curt sit down with Jake Britton, Founder of WiseBear Creative, to uncover the new rules of SEO in the age of AI. Jake shares how AI, authority, and authenticity are reshaping search, why clarity beats clicks every time, and practical steps you can take to boost your ranking and conversions. From StoryBrand messaging to avoiding “conversion killers,” this conversation is packed with insights every business owner and marketer needs. Chapters: (00:00) Welcome to Being HUMN + Introducing Guest Jake Britton (01:24) From Craft Beer to WiseBear Creative: Jake’s Story (04:52) Why SEO Is Like an Investment, Not a Quick Fix (07:14) AIO (Artificial Intelligence Optimization) Explained (09:21) Google’s Updates: How AI Detects Fluff Content (12:04) Writing for Humans + AI: The New SEO Balance (14:21) Authority + Credibility: Building Trust Online (16:35) SEO Meets StoryBrand: Traffic vs. Conversions (19:43) Real Client Case Study: Doubling Conversions in 30 Days (22:27) Getting Better (Not Just More) Leads with Clear Messaging (26:32) Practical SEO Tips: Speed, Structure, Interlinking (30:48) How to Audit Your Website and Improve Rankings (33:11) Why 30% of Users Already Use ChatGPT for Search (37:21) StoryBrand Framework for Landscapers + Service Businesses (41:11) HUMN x WiseBear SEO + Messaging Partnership (42:52) Final Takeaways: Clarity Beats Clicks Every Time 👉 Learn how to structure your website, write content for both humans and AI, and finally turn your traffic into paying customers. 🔗 Resources: HUMN: gowithhumn.com WiseBear Creative: WiseBearCreative.com #MarketingStrategy #Stor

    44 min
  2. SEO, AI, and StoryBrand: Building Clarity That Converts — Highlights

    09/11/2025 · BONUS

    SEO, AI, and StoryBrand: Building Clarity That Converts — Highlights

    SEO has changed more in the last two years than ever before. In this episode of Being HUMN, Rob and Curt sit down with Jake Britton, Founder of WiseBear Creative, to unpack how AI, search engines, and StoryBrand are reshaping the way businesses connect with customers. You’ll discover:✔️ Why old SEO tactics (like keyword stuffing) no longer work✔️ How AI tools read and rank content differently today✔️ Why clarity and StoryBrand messaging drive conversions more than clicks✔️ Practical examples of turning traffic into real leads and sales✔️ Why “fluff” content is being penalized and how to structure for impact Chapters:(00:00) Welcome to Being HUMN with Rob and Curt(00:38) Guest Intro: Jake Britton of WiseBear Creative(02:10) How SEO Has Changed in the Last Two Years(04:19) AI and the Future of Search Optimization(06:45) Why Structure and Scannability Matter for Content(09:17) StoryBrand: Clarity Over Clicks(12:32) Turning Blog Traffic Into Real Conversions(15:04) The 5-Second Rule for Websites That Convert(17:42) Technical SEO: Site Speed and Mobile Experience(20:13) Avoiding the Wall of Text Syndrome(22:45) Writing to Answer Real Customer Questions(26:04) How StoryBrand Doubled Client Conversions in 30 Days(30:11) Balancing AI Tools with Human Touch in Marketing(33:29) Why Fluff Content Gets Penalized(36:42) Plumbing Example: Answering for Different Demographics(40:12) Where to Find Jake Britton and WiseBear Creative(42:03) Closing Thoughts: SEO as a Long-Term Investment 👉 Learn more about scaling your brand with clarity and traction at gowithhumn.com #HUMN #SEO #MarketingStrategy #StoryBrand #WiseBearCreative #DigitalMarketing

    10 min
  3. The 5 Biggest Marketing Mistakes (and How to Fix Them)

    09/02/2025

    The 5 Biggest Marketing Mistakes (and How to Fix Them)

    Most businesses don’t fail because of bad products—they fail because of unclear marketing. In this debut episode of Being HUMN, Rob and Curt share the five biggest mistakes companies make when trying to connect with customers. They reveal how the StoryBrand framework shifts the spotlight away from the company and onto the customer, why “random acts of marketing” waste money, and how to align your entire team around one clear message. Chapters: (00:00) Welcome to Being HUMN with Rob & Curt (00:42) The 5 Key Marketing Mistakes Businesses Make (02:57) StoryBrand: Making the Customer the Hero (06:13) Why Businesses Struggle to Focus on One Problem (08:47) Random Acts of Marketing: Wasting Time and Money (11:30) Disconnected Tactics and Burnout in Teams (13:42) Why Sales, Marketing, and Leadership Tell Different Stories (16:55) The Cost of Information Overload in Messaging (19:23) Customer Feedback Loops and Staying Aligned Over Time (22:18) Why Generic Messaging Doesn’t Work in the Age of AI (25:04) Building Emotional Connection Through Tone and Voice (28:39) Authenticity vs. Confusion: Why Clarity Wins Trust (33:57) The Role of Empathy in StoryBrand Messaging (36:33) Empathy + Credibility: A Formula for Trust (40:14) Why More Traffic Isn’t the Answer Without Conversion (43:10) The 3-Step Plan Every Website Needs (46:26) Calls-to-Action That Convert vs. Confuse (47:28) A Simple Self-Assessment to Evaluate Your Marketing (49:25) Why Being HUMN Matters More Than Ever 👉 Learn how to simplify your brand story, build trust through empathy and credibility, and create messaging that actually drives growth. 🔗 Resources: HUMN Free Assessment: gowithhumn.com #MarketingStrategy #StoryBrand #BusinessGrowth #BrandClarity #Entrepreneurship #BeingHUMN #MarketingMistakes

    50 min

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being humn, is a show about making marketing human again. Hosts Rob and Curt—co-founders of the HUMN agency—share real conversations, proven frameworks, and practical insights to help brands connect deeply with their customers. If you care about clarity, empathy, and marketing that actually works, this podcast is for you.