Gardens of Earthly Delight

Andrew Valenti

An exploration of our connection to earth through conversations with experts and celebrities who have formed their own profound relationships to the natural world.

Episodes

  1. The Hopi Farmer Who Grew an 800-Year-Old Seed w/ Michael Kotutwa Johnson

    JAN 30

    The Hopi Farmer Who Grew an 800-Year-Old Seed w/ Michael Kotutwa Johnson

    The Hopi Farmer Who Grew an 800-Year-Old Seed Michael Kotutwa Johnson Michael Kotutwa Johnson is a 250th generation Hopi dry farmer and University of Arizona professor. His people have farmed the same land in northeastern Arizona for thousands of years - a place that receives only six inches of rain annually, with no irrigation and no pesticides.  Michael once planted an 800-year-old corn seed discovered by an archaeologist in a cave near historical Hopi villages. It sprouted because seeds have memory. This corn remembered how to grow and knew that it was safe to grow in caring Hopi hands. We talk about what makes Hopi culture a collaboration of clans, planting with faith during extreme drought, the planting stick as both life and death, singing to your corn and giving plants high fives, treating seeds as children, reading biological indicators in the land, and the practice of holding seeds in your mouth before planting. Michael also shares how he roasts corn in seven-foot stone pits to preserve it for decades - real food security rooted in community, not individual accumulation. "They're children to me. When they fall down, you pick them back up." Michael embodies what it means to be in true relationship with plants, seeds, soil, and the living world. Knowledge passed down through 250 generations that offers us a different model for resilience, adaptation, and agricultural practice. This has been condensed from a longer conversation. For extended show notes with deeper analysis and reflections, subscribe to my Substack at gardensofearthlydelight.substack.com. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - What makes Hopi Hopi: A collaboration of clans 04:10 - Hopi clan migrations and oral traditions 08:20 - Faith as the most important ingredient 11:57 - Lessons from grandfather: The planting stick as life and death 15:14 - Planting techniques: 6-18 inches deep without irrigation 17:30 - The intimacy of seed planting 20:53 - Reading biological indicators: How weeds predict the season 24:11 - The present moment in Hopi language and culture 26:24 - "Without corn, we are not Hopi" 29:17 - The role of women in Hopi agriculture 30:47 - Adapting to climate change the Hopi way 35:07 - The 800-year-old corn seed: Memory and adaptation 39:09 - The satisfaction of growing your own food 41:39 - Why regenerative agriculture matters 48:25 - Cultural significance of Hopi seeds 52:09 - The ethics of seed sharing 56:21 - Timing, acceptance, and nurturing 59:15 - Singing to plants and giving them high fives 1:00:55 - Food memory: Roasting corn in a seven-foot stone pit RESOURCES MENTIONED Books: Becoming Hopi - Hopi Culture Preservation Office Book of the Hopi by Frank WatersOrganizations & Programs: Native American Agriculture FundUniversity of Arizona Indigenous Resilience CenterHopi FoundationArticles & Features: "What 800-Year-Old Seeds Teach Us About Adaptation & Hope" - Good Food Finder"Michael Kotutwa Johnson: A Voice for Indigenous Agriculture" - Eos Magazine"Continuity of Hopi Agriculture" presentation (YouTube)CONNECT WITH MICHAEL KOTUTWA JOHNSONInstagram: @dr._hopi_farmerLinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michael-kotutwa-johnson-phd-mpp-16542049University of Arizona: snre.arizona.edu/michael-kotutwa-johnson FOLLOW GARDENS OF EARTHLY DELIGHT Substack: gardensofearthlydelight.substack.com Instagram: @gardensofearthlydelightpod Podcast: gardensofearthlydelight.com/subscribe Music by Constant Smiles Logo design by Hunky Kitty ★ Support this podcast ★

    1h 9m
  2. Bonus Episode: In Conversation with Slow Food

    JAN 23 · BONUS

    Bonus Episode: In Conversation with Slow Food

    Bonus episode! I was recently invited as a guest on the Slow Food podcast. Slow Food is a global movement dedicated to preserving food biodiversity, supporting small-scale farmers, and connecting people to their food traditions. Being asked to join their conversation was truly an honor. In this episode with Valentina, I share my journey through 20 years of working on farms and gardens around the world, the spiritual and physical connection we have with soil, and those transformative wow moments that happen when we open ourselves to nature. We also discuss ancient practices like holding seeds in your mouth before planting - something I dive deeper into with my next guest, Michael Kotutwa Johnson, a 250th generation Hopi farmer and University of Arizona professor. That episode comes out next week on January 30th - stay tuned! TIMESTAMPS 02:58 - First memory: pulling a carrot at age 4 04:30 - Light bulb moment in the pea field 06:20 - Building community through food 08:36 - Hare Krishna farm in Hawaii 10:30 - Spraying pesticides: the moment that changed everything 12:15 - Wow moments and spiritual connection to nature 20:05 - The chemical connection between body and soil 23:00 - Holding seeds in your mouth before planting 25:47 - Practical gardening tips for beginners 28:53 - Why I started Gardens of Earthly Delight 31:00 - How local farmers led to Italian citizenship RESOURCES MENTIONED WWOOF (Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms): Volunteering on organic farms around the world Slow Food Farms: Find farms near you dedicated to agroecological practices and biodiversityWonderful Escapes: The farm I am living on this winter (with the miniature donkeys!) FOLLOW & SUPPORT SLOW FOODSlow Food CommunitiesMake a Donation to Slow FoodFollow on Instagram FOLLOW & SUPPORT GARDENS OF EARTHLY DELIGHT Substack: gardensofearthlydelight.substack.comInstagram: @gardensofearthlydelightpodPodcast: gardensofearthlydelight.com/subscribeDonate: buymeacoffee.com/gardens Photo of Trevor credit: Alexander PomperMusic by Constant SmilesLogo design by Hunky Kitty ★ Support this podcast ★

    36 min
  3. Cheese Is Not A Human Invention w/ Trevor Warmedahl (Milk Trekker)

    JAN 16

    Cheese Is Not A Human Invention w/ Trevor Warmedahl (Milk Trekker)

    Cheese Is Not A Human Invention Trevor Warmedahl (Milk Trekker) Trevor Warmedahl, also known as Milk Trekker, is a nomadic cheesemaker, teacher, and author who travels the world documenting endangered cheese-making practices from rural pastoral communities. He won the Daphne Zepos Teaching Award in 2022 and teaches through his Sour Milk School. His book, Cheese Trekking: How Microbes, Landscapes, Livestock, and Human Cultures Shape Terroir, comes out February 17th, 2026 with Chelsea Green Publishing. Recorded in Bra, Italy during the Slow Food cheese festival, Trevor and I explore why cheese is milk's natural destiny, not a human invention. We dive into the ethical realities of dairy, the influence of David Asher's book, how industrial starter cultures are like buying seeds from Monsanto, the profound practice of transhumance, raw milk safety debates, microbial diversity, terroir, and what the future holds for American cheesemakers. "Cheese is really milk fulfilling its destiny." Trevor challenges the industrial model and shows us there's another way—one rooted in traditional wisdom, seasonal rhythms, and the infinite potential hidden in a pail of raw milk. This has been condensed from a two-hour conversation. For the full unedited version with more stories from Trevor's travels, subscribe to my Substack at gardensofearthlydelight.substack.com. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction 02:21 - Cheese is not a human invention 11:58 - The role of microbes in cheese making 13:38 - Fears and safety of natural cheese 22:02 - Cheese and microbes 29:05 - Cheese terroir and its complexity 36:36 - Aha moments in cheese making 44:38 - Tradition vs. innovation 48:18 - Transhumance: the art of seasonal migration 57:24 - The essential role of salt 1:02:25 - Favorite food memory 1:05:33 - Final thoughts CONNECT WITH TREVOR Substack: milktrekker.substack.com Instagram: @milktrekker Book: Pre-order Cheese Trekking (out February 17, 2026) with Chelsea Green Publishing FOLLOW GARDENS OF EARTHLY DELIGHT Substack: gardensofearthlydelight.substack.comInstagram: @gardensofearthlydelightpodPodcast: gardensofearthlydelight.com/subscribe Photo of Trevor credit: Alexander PomperMusic by Constant SmilesLogo design by Hunky Kitty ★ Support this podcast ★

    1h 8m

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An exploration of our connection to earth through conversations with experts and celebrities who have formed their own profound relationships to the natural world.