Cider Chat Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist

Is Ancestral Method different than Pet Nat?
This panel discussion on Ancestral Method was moderate by Nicole Leibon of LeNosse Knows consultation. She was joined by Yann Gilles, a French cider consultant, Levi Danielson of Oregon's RAW cider and David Carr of California's Raging Cider. This feature was was recorded at CiderCon 2024, the annual trade conference hosted by the American Cider Association.

(ltor) Nicole LeGrand Liebon, Yann Gilles, Levi Danielson, Dave Carr
The discussion centers around various aspects of cider production, specifically highlighting traditional cider-making methods like the "ancestral method.

Topics discuss on this panel
Cider Making Methods and Personal Backgrounds of each speaker   Ancestral Method of Cider Production This traditional method of cider making is particularly prominent in Normandy and Brittany, France.   It involves a two-step fermentation process: the first step is in tanks and the second in bottles, intentionally leaving both fermentations incomplete to retain some natural sugars and create a sparkling cider.   Technical Details in Cider Fermentation Discussions delve into the technical specifics such as controlling yeast population, managing nitrogen levels in the must, and how these factors affect the cider’s quality and character.   Influence of Environmental Factors Various environmental factors like orchard age, apple variety, and climatic conditions impact the nitrogen content in apples, which in turn affects the cider's fermentation process   Cider Quality Control Techniques    Techniques like racking, filtration, and the use of centrifuges are explored to manage fermentation and ensure quality.   Packaging and Bottling Considerations    The choice of bottles, pressure management during second fermentation, and how these factors impact the safety and quality of the final cider product are discussed

Cider Tasting and Consumer Preferences The session included a cider tasting, emphasizing the importance of understanding consumer preferences and the impact of specific cider-making techniques on the flavor and appeal of the cider. 2022 Cidre AOP Pays d'Auge Cuvée Réserve | Manoir de Grandouet (Normandy)   2023 AW Cider Pet Nat | RAW Cider Company (Oregon)   2020 Disco Nat, Metal House Cider (New York)   Jonathan & Liberty | Raging Cider & Mead Company (California)
Enjoy this detailed exploration highlights both the science and the art behind cider making, from orchard management to bottling and consumer satisfaction.

Contact info for Ancestral Methods Panel
Nicole LeGrand Liebon - @nicolegrandleibon - Vermont   Yann Giles - @yanngilles.cidre - France   Levi Danielson - RAW Cider - Oregon   David Carr - Raging Cider and Mead Company - Southern California
Mentions in this Cider Chat
PA Cider Fest - June 15, 2024   Who's been cross promoting cider #xpromotecider Sidra Santiago artesanal sidreria - Craft cider. Heritage Chilean apples. In the heart of Santiago, Chile   French Cider Tour 2024 is Sold Out

Find the latest Cider Dispatch from Highland County Virginia Cider Bon Vivant Reporter Al Sax provide a cider dispatch report from Monterey Virginia. This area of Virginia is known as Highland County and it is here that Big Fish Cider is located. One of the cool extras (beside cider) when visiting this region, is that it is a Dark Sky area. This means good star grazing due to the lack of night lights drowning out the night sky.
Al interviews Big Fish Cider Maker and Owner Kirk Billingsley. Kirk was last on Cider Chat in Episode 124. That recording took place in 2018 at CiderCon the annual trade conference for the American Cider Association
Ria with Big Fish pulled chilled from the stream Changes at Big Fish from 2018 -2024 400 apple trees planted Can order Big Fish online Tasting room open Friday -Sunday Contact for Big Fish Cider Co. Website: https://www.bigfishcider.com/about-us/ eMail: info@bigfishcider.com Telephone: (540) 468-2322 Address 59 Spruce Street, Monterey, VA  24465 Work with Cider Chat – Provide Cider Dispatches Too! If you enjoy sharing your love of cider and also have a knack for conversation? Why not share some of your local cider hot spots and interview a favored maker.
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Mentioned in this Cider Chat Hear from Cider Chat’s newest patron Josh from Australia Who’s been cross promoting cider #xpromotecider Abaliget Garden Projects – Cider, Perry and Fruit wines Megan Faschoway – Junction Orchard and Ciderhouse Rakkerpak Cider – Denmark Thy Cider – Denmark Big Fish Cider posted the Cider Chat info flyer in their tasting room √ Only one seat left on the French Cider Tour 2024 Work with Cider Chat – Record audio snap shots from your special spot in Ciderville @joshcreates Tom Oliver of Oliver’s Cider and Perry Ltd audio clip! Thy Cider in Denmark Cross Promotes Cider Chat

Technical Tips for When Things Go Wrong with Cider Making This episode features two cider professionals and a cider industry consultant, which is exactly who you need a direct line to when your cider has problems. Hear from Megan Faschoway who at the time of this recording was Senior Cider Maker at Sea Cider, Kira Bassingthwaighte Head Cider Maker at Western Cider in Montana and Nick Gunn of BenchGraft a cider consultation service based in Salem Oregon.
This talk took place in Portland Oregon at CiderCon, the annual cider conference hosted by the American Cider Association. The title of the talk was “What to do when things go wrong”.
The focus was not on preventive measures, but as the title says – curative steps that one can take to try to mitigate a problem with a particular cider
In this Cider Chat on Cider Problems Dealing with rotten egg smell from your cider Hydrogen sulfide (H2S) is a negative off-aroma compound that can occur in cider and has a rotten egg smell. It’s produced by the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae during cider fermentation. Filtering cider Using Reverse Osmosis (RO) Tasting Panels for feedback Dealing with a saturated cider maker’s palate Saving samples from each batch to create a library for potential cider problems down the road Contact for Speakers on this Panel Kira Bassingthwaighte, Western Cider Hear Kira on Episode 295 Megan Faschoway Nick Gunn BenchGraft Hear Nick and Dave White of Whitewood Cider on Episode 004 Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour September 2024 Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company – UK Cider in Herefordshire, Tom Oliver audio clip The Whose Who of #xpromotecider in this episode? Join the fun and download the info flyer on Cider Chat offerings at the Support Page! Post, share and social media and tag Cider Chat! Cider’s XPromoters will be featured on an end of year episode!   De Gerdenner Cider, Netherland Northwest Cider Association reposted Episode 410 with Olympic Bluffs Cider and Lavender Farm Ross on Wye Cider and Perry Company posted last week’s Episode 410 Perry Panel Dragon’ Head Cider Camra Cider and Perry American Cider Association – CiderCon

Cider’s Best Friend is Perry Enjoy this panel discussion “Pear Necessities: International Perry recorded at CiderCon 2024. The panel was moderated by drinks writer, Adam Wells of the UK. Sitting to his right was Tom Oliver of Olivers Cider and Perry Ltd (UK), Laura Cherry of Dragon’s Head Cider (Washington State), Albert Johnson of Ross and Wye Cider and Perry Company (UK) and cider critic and blogger Natalia Wszelaki (Germany).
(L to R) Tom Oliver (Oliver’s Cider and Perry), Albert Johnson (Ross-on-Wye Cider), Laura Cherry (Dragon’s Head Cider), Natalia Wszelaki (Cider Explorer), Adam Wells (Cider Review) Topics discussed during this Perry Panel Introduction of Perry Panel Speakers Overview of Perry in both Europe, the UK and America Tasting profiles of 4 Perry’s Oliver’s Cider and Perry Ltd. (UK) SHHH Ross on Wye Cider & Perry Company (UK) Thorn 2019 S.V. Perry Kertelreiter (Germany) Heiden 2021 Single Tree Perry Dragon’s Head Cider (Washington State, US) Sparkling Perry Perry critique of servings via Natalia a.k.a Cider Explorer Shared a bit of history of perry in Austria, Switzerland and Germany Pear Cider vs Perry – are they interchangeable New Perry Book (May 2024) Perry: A Drinker’s Guide, author Adam Wells of Cider Review
Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour September 2024 Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company – UK Cider in Herefordshire, Tom Oliver audio clip The Whose Who of #xpromotecider in this episode? Join the fun and download the info flyer on Cider Chat offerings at the support page! Post, share and social media and tag Cider Chat! Cider’s XPromoters will be featured on an end of year episode! Spacetime Mead & Cider Works, Dunmore, PA The London Cider House Rakkerpak Cider, Denmark @snoopylovescider – referred to a Cider Chat episode with Stormalong Cider. There are currently two episodes with this Massachusetts based maker Episode 036 (Season 1) and 236 Scrub a Dub Valves and Vessels which is part of the Season 5 Cider Making series. American Cider Association – CiderCon

Escape to Olympic Bluffs a Dream Vacation Destination Olympic Bluffs Cidery & Lavender Farm is located on the northern coast of the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. The farm is on a bluff that overlooks the Salish Sea, which spans the international waters between British Columbia and Washington State. The location is dreamy with views of Mount Baker, a 10,000+ foot mountain, to the east and Victoria Canada to the north.

Olympic Bluffs was founded by Ginger and Scott Wierzbanowski, who found farm land years early on a trip to Washington State. Both are Air Force Veterans with Ginger serving as an Intel Officer and Scott as an Air Force F 16 pilot.
Scott and Ginger next to F 16 – note Scott’s name on plane The two met in Korea, married in Denmark, and lived in Europe where in France they discovered Calvados. Years later their love of cider helped frame Olympic Bluffs Cidery and Lavender Farm which has an onsite Lavender shop, a cider production area, a Bed and Breakfast next door, and a commercial location where a future tasting room will be situated in downtown Port Angeles.

In this Cider Chat The Wierzbanowski’s backstory to cider. Why a cidery and lavender farm in Port Angeles? What does the location look like? When and how can people visit? Is there a best time? The orchards, Size, terrain, soil type Number of apple varieties and (pear?) Orchard practices What products Olympic Bluffs currently sells Types of cider to expect? What has informed your cider making styles? Future plans
Contact for Olympic Bluffs Cidery & Lavender Farm Website: https://www.olympicbluffscidery.com/ Address: 1025 Finn Hall Rd, Port Angeles, WA 98362 Telephone: +13606707206 Mentions in this Cider Chat French Cider Tour September 2024 Oliver’s Cider and Perry Company – UK Cider in Herefordshire, Tom Oliver audio clip The Whose Who of #xpromotecider in this episode? Join the fun and download the info flyer on Cider Chat offerings at the support page! Post, share and social media and tag Cider Chat! Cider’s XPromoters will be featured on an end of year episode! Spacetime Mead & Cider Works, Dunmore, PA Heartland Ciderworks, OR – watch the “Bottles On My Desk” review of Avalon Rakkerpak Cider, Denmark Know Your Roots, orchard consulting | NY

Mike Biltonen and his wife Debbie founded Know Your Roots in 2008 and began offering a wide array of service for backyard and commercial orchardists in 2014.
Mike This conversation tool place at the Berkshire Roundtable that was founded my Micheal Phillips 34 years ago. This annual meet up of orchardist and cider makers takes place in Massachusetts each spring. It is an informal discussion amoungst peers all on growing apples and assorted pomme fruits. Micheal Phillips was a renown orchardist and author of many books like The Holistic Orchard. Find all his books at Cider Chat’s book page. Listen to episode 312 dedicated to Micheal.
In this Cider Chat The backstory of Know Your Roots Services offered by Know Your Roots What to consider before planting an orchard Mike’s background in Biodynamic (BD) orcharding Defining Holistic Orcharding Making a BD preparation Climate change – dealing with late season frost The future at Know Your Roots and…cider? Mike and Ria recording this episode Contact for Know Your Roots Website: https://knowyouroots.com/index.html Mentions on this Cider Chat Rudolf Steiner Josephine Porter Institute for Applied Biodynamics (JPI) #xpromotecider in this episode Listen to Dan of Space Time Mead & Ciderworks Bones and Bottles Review – on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/boneandbottlereviews/?hl=en Listen to Episode 407 with Dan Gallagher of Frosty Twig Cider Follow Ben Kuenš on Chocalate Pears – listen to his episode #304 all on Sorbus Domestica