Cider Chat

Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
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Interviewing cidermakers, importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let's delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!

  1. 493: Cider as a Sport | Sidra in Asturias (Archive Edition)

    2D AGO

    493: Cider as a Sport | Sidra in Asturias (Archive Edition)

    What is Asturian cider? Asturian cider (sidra natural) is a traditionally fermented apple cider from Asturias, Spain, served through a high pour (escanciado) and shared socially in small servings called culines. This episode is part of the Cider Chat archive documenting global cider traditions and producers since 2015. In this epic replay from Season 2 of Cider Chat, Ria Windcaller traveled to Asturias, Spain, and sat down with Anzu Fernández, international delegate for La Sidra magazine and a lifelong ambassador of traditional Asturian cider culture.   Find the full show notes for this episode at CiderChat.com Episode 493: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/493-cider-as-a-sport-sidra-in-asturias/ Listen to Episode 493 of Cider Chat® wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one. 00:00 Cider Is Sport Intro 00:37 Asturias Sidra Legacy 01:34 Rollup To Episode 500 02:49 Season Two World Tour 05:07 Ciderville News And Tours 07:15 Hungarian Cider Salon 09:13 Setting The Asturias Scene 11:12 Meet Anzu And La Sidra 14:05 Doctor By Day Cider By Night 16:24 Home Cider And Espicha 20:04 Tasting Notes And Apples 22:59 Basque Vs Asturian Styles 24:52 Associations And Big Market 26:28 Cider Pouring Competitions 28:46 How To Drink A Culín 29:48 Sharing One Glass 30:15 Cider Pourer Etiquette 31:55 Low ABV Session Drinking 32:24 Wild Fermentation Basics 33:20 Blending Igualación 34:58 Modern Cider Innovations 36:25 Cider Tourism Grows 38:22 Where To Drink Sidra 40:40 Unlabeled Bottles Explained 41:52 Vintage And Market Shifts 43:45 Defining Cider Origins 47:12 Climate And Apple Country 48:49 Tasting The Long Pour 49:56 Tech Talk And Standards 52:54 Closing Reflections

    55 min
  2. 492: Absolem Cider Company | Maine Cider Energy

    FEB 25

    492: Absolem Cider Company | Maine Cider Energy

    This episode of Cider Chat explores the growing Maine cider scene through Absolem Cider Company in Winthrop, a farm-based cidery helping shape New England's evolving cider identity. Located on a 60-acre farm in Winthrop, Maine, Absolem Cider Company is a cidery that expresses place, heritage apples, and hospitality. In this episode, Ria sits down with cider maker Zach Kaiser to explore how Absolem blends traditional inspiration with modern experimentation. From wild-foraged apples and native fermentations to wine-inspired co-ferments and Basque-style pours, Zach shares how Maine's apple history is shaping a new generation of New England cider. 00:00 Intro Cask Cider 00:06 Meet the Guest 01:27 How Cask Service Works 03:08 Why Absolem Uses It 04:07 Episode Roadmap 04:48 Ciderville News MOFGA Workshops 07:19 Listener Shoutout Chalkys Cider 08:29 Featured Chat Begins 09:23 Absolem Farm and Tasting Room 10:31 Where Winthrop Fits in Maine 12:42 Zachs Cider Origin Story 14:24 Founding Absolem Through COVID 16:34 Coferments and Wine Blends 18:13 Wend Wild Apple Cider 22:32 Fermentation Yeast and Malo 24:57 Beer Hybrids and Collabs 25:39 Flagship Ciders to Try 27:18 Sidra Style Foeder Program 28:40 Taproom Vibe and Winter Maine 29:21 Year Round Tasting Room 29:31 Local Bar Vibe 30:41 Lake Town Tourism 31:41 Cider As Experience 32:22 Ice Cider And Mistelle 32:47 Brandy Barrel Aging 34:36 Lodging And Visits 35:14 Signature Events Calendar 35:30 Bembel Fest Details 37:57 Anniversary And Collabs 39:30 Pressing And Production 41:36 Heating And Expansion 42:58 Five Year Vision 44:30 New England Cider Association 50:12 Wrap Up And Links Find the full show notes for this episode at CiderChat.com Episode 492: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/492-absolem-cider-company/ Listen to Episode 492 of Cider Chat® wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.

    52 min
  3. Revisiting Randall Grahm | Cider Exploration Without Hesitation

    FEB 18

    Revisiting Randall Grahm | Cider Exploration Without Hesitation

    An early conversation that explored possibilities cider was only beginning to consider. As Cider Chat moves toward its 500th episode, we revisit conversations from the earliest seasons, taking a long view of the moments that quietly shaped where cider and this podcast would go. This episode, originally recorded in Season One, features legendary winemaker Randall Grahm, founder of Bonny Doon Vineyard and a James Beard Award winner. At the time, inviting a winemaker onto a cider podcast felt like stepping outside the expected boundaries of the category. Looking back now, it marked a turning point. Long before many of these topics became common discussion in cider, this conversation explores: indigenous and wild yeast fermentation the use of pied de cuve to build healthy native fermentations beginning fermentations de novo each vintage blending philosophy borrowed from wine quince used as structure and aroma rather than juice perry through a winemaker's lens antique fruits like medlars cider as an expression of curiosity and place Randall Grahm " data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Randall-Grahm-188-copy.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Randall-Grahm-188-copy.jpg?fit=200%2C300&ssl=1" /> Randall Grahm Find the full show notes for this episode at CiderChat.com Episode 491: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/491-randall-grahm-cider-history/ Listen to Episode 491 of Cider Chat® wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.

    54 min
  4. Let Cider Lead

    FEB 11

    Let Cider Lead

    An editorial on leadership, scarcity, and why cider no longer needs to borrow authority from beer or wine. In Let Cider Lead, host Ria Windcaller steps back from interviews to offer a clear-eyed reflection on the state of the cider industry, drawing on more than three decades in cider and nearly eleven years documenting the modern cider movement through Cider Chat. 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 01:02 Upcoming Cider Events 03:10 Totally Cider Tours 06:37 Cider Chat Schedule Update 08:00 Reflections on Cider Industry Leadership 10:53 Cider Industry Norms and Challenges 18:44 Call to Action: Let Cider Lead 19:50 Conclusion and Sign Off 20:25 Outro Song: Strange Apples   Find the full show notes for this episode at CiderChat.com Episode 490: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/490-let-cider-lead/ Listen to Episode 490 of Cider Chat® wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.

    23 min
  5. 489: Natural Cider Production Seminar | CiderCon 2025

    FEB 4

    489: Natural Cider Production Seminar | CiderCon 2025

    Natural cider is often misunderstood as funky, volatile, or flawed. Recorded live at CiderCon 2025, this seminar reframes natural cider as a philosophy of low intervention, balance, and intentional care, not a free pass for faults. Moderator Haritz is joined by Richard of Brooklyn Cider House and Jasper Smith of Son of Man (Oregon) to explore how Basque cider traditions influence modern natural cider production in the U.S. The panel dives into fermentation choices, malolactic fermentation, volatile acidity, sensory evaluation, and why great natural cider is defined by quality, not dogma. This conversation also examines how natural cider is judged in Spain, what tasting panels consider true faults, and why these ciders are designed first and foremost to be enjoyed with food. Ciders featured: Zapiain (Basque Country), Son of Man (Oregon), and Solstice (Brooklyn Cider House) Episode 489 Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Basque Cider 00:25 Meet the Host: Ria Windcaller 00:42 The Magic of Sidra Natural 01:41 Exploring Natural Cider Production 02:32 Cider FOMO and CiderCon 03:34 Cider Chat Milestones and YouTube Channel 05:21 Thanking the Cider Chat Patrons 08:44 Featured Presentation: Natural Cider Panel 09:23 Defining Natural Cider 11:32 Production Techniques and Philosophies 27:05 Harvest Strategies and Apple Varieties 36:21 Exploring the Price Range of Ciders 37:01 The Science Behind Well-Integrated Volatile Acidity 38:31 The Role of Malolactic Fermentation in Cider 39:55 Tasting Panels and Quality Control in Basque Cider 42:44 Cider Pairing with Food: A Gastronomic Experience 44:31 The Cultural Significance of Cider in Spain 51:31 The Importance of Apple Varieties in Cider Making 55:43 Challenges and Rewards of Natural Cider Production 01:01:48 Final Thoughts and Future of Cider 01:06:55 Conclusion and Farewell Find the full show notes for this episode at CiderChat.com Episode 489: https://ciderchat.com/podcast/489-natural-cider-production/ Listen to Episode 489 of Cider Chat® wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat. Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more conversations like this one.

    1h 11m
  6. 488: Vintage Cider Label Lawsuit

    JAN 28

    488: Vintage Cider Label Lawsuit

    A pending lawsuit spearheaded by Ron Extract of Garden Path Fermentation could change how cider makers label harvest year and "vintage" on cider over 7% ABV. Ron explains why the current TTB rules block truthful harvest-year labeling, how this impacts both producers and consumers, and what success would look like for the cider community. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 00:43 Cider Labeling Controversy 02:46 News and Events in the Cider World 04:56 Upcoming Cider Tours 09:16 Featured Presentation: Ron Extract on Cider Labeling Lawsuit 42:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts   Find the full show notes to this episode at CiderChat.com Episode 488 https://ciderchat.com/podcast/488-vintage-cider-label-lawsuit/ Listen to Episode 488 of Cider Chat® wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. 📺 Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more interviews and deep-dive conversations like this one.

    43 min
  7. 487: Further Tales of Chocolate Pears

    JAN 21

    487: Further Tales of Chocolate Pears

    In This Episode, We Cover Why Sorbus domestica is often nicknamed "the chocolate pear" (and why that name actually helps people get it) What bletting means, and why sorbs can be delicious before they turn fully brown (depending on the fruit) The "custard stage" vs. fully bletted "medlar-like" stage (and how this relates to cider pressing windows) Ben's sorb travel finds across: Croatia (including fruit for sale at the market + trees growing in yards) Moravia (Czech Republic) — including the Sorbus museum and harvest festival France (sorb hunting with Arnold and tasting cormé/cormé-style ferments) Somerset, UK (a surprise roadside discovery!) Growth habits that can make Sorbus domestica look like an oak Why sorbs may matter in a changing climate: deep root systems drought resistance long lifespan later bloom time (less frost risk) Seed-grown vs grafted sorbs — and why Ben prefers genetic diversity (for now) The surprising reality: sorbs have already been distributed widely in the U.S. through seedlings What's being made with sorbs in Europe: brandy co-ferments with grapes wine experiments Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction to Sorbus Domestica 00:18 Meet the Podcast Host: Ria Windcaller 00:52 Exploring Sorbus Domestica: History and Uses 01:25 Cider Chat Episodes Featuring Sorbus Domestica 02:39 Sorbus Domestica in France and the US 04:05 Cider News and Upcoming Events 07:53 Interview with Ben Kunesh: Chocolate Pears 08:33 The Unique Characteristics of Sorbus Domestica 17:25 Sorbus Domestica Around the World 21:03 The Versatility and Adaptability of Sorbus Domestica 24:20 The Future of Sorbus Domestica in Orchards 25:49 Sorbus Domestica: A Historical Perspective 27:34 Ben's Travels and Discoveries 34:25 Exploring Sorbus Domestica Variations 35:30 Propagation Techniques and Genetic Diversity 37:29 Historical Context and Distribution 39:50 Nursery and Distribution Efforts 41:09 European Adventures and Discoveries 45:30 Tasting Sorbus Domestica Products 54:23 Future Prospects and Cultivation Tips 01:00:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 🎧 Listen to Episode 487 of Cider Chat® wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss what's coming next in Ciderville. 📺 Prefer to watch? Find Cider Chat on YouTube for more cider stories, orchard adventures, and global cider culture. 💛 If you love what you're hearing, please consider supporting Cider Chat Your support helps keep the podcast on the air and makes it possible to share more interviews and deep-dive conversations like this one.

    1h 4m
  8. 486: Apples, Cider, and Community | 450 Years of Cider Culture in Chile

    JAN 14

    486: Apples, Cider, and Community | 450 Years of Cider Culture in Chile

    Recorded live at CiderCon, this episode brings listeners into a rare, in-depth conversation about Chile's living cider tradition—one shaped by more than 450 years of apple fermentation, deep regional biodiversity, and community-based agriculture. Moderated by Eli Shanks, this panel features cider makers, cooperative leaders, and academics from southern Chile who explore how apples arrived, adapted, and endured across Araucanía, Los Ríos, and the Chiloé archipelago. Rather than a "new" cider movement, Chile offers something far rarer: a cider culture that never disappeared. At the heart of the discussion is Chicha—the traditional name for fermented apple beverages in Chile—and the cultural weight that language carries. Panelists unpack how Chicha and cider share the same roots, why heritage orchards matter, and what's at stake as aging farmers, development pressure, and climate change threaten seed-grown apple diversity. Listeners will also hear about: Heritage apple orchards over 100 years old, many grown from seed The role of women as primary stewards of orchards and biodiversity Native fermentation vessels made from Raulí and other Chilean woods Cooperative cider making on the island of Chiloé The challenges of valuing cider beyond "cheap, rural" perceptions The future of Chilean cider on the global stage, including education, competitions, and potential export This episode offers an essential perspective for anyone interested in cider as culture—not trend—and in how place, people, and history shape what ends up in the glass. Panelists & Contributors Eli Shanks – Co-founder, Punta de Fierro Fine Cider; Head Cider Maker, Western Cider Gicella – President, Cooperative Chilwe (Chiloé) René Galindo – Third-generation cider maker, Araucanía Carlos Flores – Co-founder, Punta de Fierro Fine Cider; Orchardist, Valdivia Fabián Lara – Cider & beer consultant; INDAP (Chilean Ministry of Agriculture) José Antonio Aldea – Professor and fermentation educator Key Themes Chilean cider and Chicha traditions Heritage apple orchards and seed-grown ecotypes Women's roles in orchard preservation Cooperative models and island agriculture Native materials and spontaneous fermentation Preserving cider culture in a changing landscape Timestamps ⏱️ Detailed timestamps are listed above to help you jump to specific topics, speakers, and cider discussions. 00:00 Introduction to Chicha and Cider 00:26 News Out and About  Ciderville  00:43 Episode Overview: Chilean Cider Panel 03:30 Upcoming Events and Announcements 07:42 Introduction to the Chilean Panel 10:44 Chilean Cider Regions and History 16:11 Traditional Cider Making in Chile 18:11 Modern Chilean Cider and Future Prospects 20:16 Cider Tasting and Panel Discussion 29:32 Consumer Perception of Cider in Chile 30:07 Challenges and Efforts in Differentiation 30:34 Traditional and New World Ciders 31:13 Exciting Apple Varieties and Characteristics 32:19 Naming and Regional Varieties 35:40 Incorporating Local Fruits into Cider 38:09 Historical Context and Apple Lineages 41:47 Fire Blight and Disease Resistance 42:57 Modern vs. Traditional Cider Making 44:15 Collaborations with Winemakers 47:12 Preserving Heritage Apple Orchards 52:10 Forming a Cooperative in Chiloé 54:53 Market Development and Sales Strategies 57:03 Generational Gaps and Preservation Efforts 59:08 Future Goals and International Connections Support Cider Chat® If you value independent, long-form conversations that preserve cider history and amplify global voices, consider supporting Cider Chat® on Patreon. Your support helps keep these stories accessible and the podcast on the air.

    1h 1m
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Interviewing cidermakers, importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let's delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!

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  • Creator
    Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
  • Years Active
    2015 - 2026
  • Episodes
    496
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Cider Chat 2014- 2025
  • Show Website
    Cider Chat

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