A raw 9/11 conversation turns into something bigger: perspective, grit, and the uncomfortable question of what we owe our kids, our country, and each other. Dan Johnson and Kyle start with family, wrestling, and the pressure of young athletes proving themselves, then pivot into a powerful reflection on how tragedy changes the way we see failure, sacrifice, and what really matters. Dan shares what it means to prepare his daughter for a brutal wrestle-off, not just physically, but emotionally—including how to lose with grace when the outcome matters most. Kyle adds the therapist’s lens, the athlete’s mindset, and the reality of trying to motivate kids without turning into the “dad voice” that makes them tune out. Together, they wrestle with how much to push, how to teach resilience, and why sports can reveal who someone really is. Then the episode takes a hard turn into September 11th. Dan recounts exactly where he was when the towers were hit, how his response has evolved from rage to compassion over the years, and why the day still forces him to check his own priorities. Kyle shares his own vivid memories of watching the attacks unfold in real time from a college dorm, along with the lasting impact of seeing the country stunned, scared, and briefly united. They talk through the national mood, the rise of distrust, and why so many people now question the government and the media. You’ll also hear them break down several of the most talked-about 9/11 conspiracy theories, including the World Trade Center 7 collapse, the missing trillions, and claims of advance warning. Rather than stopping at outrage, they dig into the tension between incompetence, corruption, propaganda, and the human need to make sense of chaos. This episode hits on loss, responsibility, conspiracy, patriotism, and the way ordinary people keep showing up for family when the world feels unsteady. Essential listening if you want honesty, strong opinions, and a reminder to hug your people a little longer today. Head to www.mybookie.ag, use promo code [SE], and get in on the action today. Bet on Anything. Anytime. Anywhere."* Check Out www.outdoorsy.com and enter EMPIRE to have your service fees removed. Underbrush Remineralizing Gum from Nathan and Sons https://nathanandsons.com/products/remineralizing-gum Visit https://www.omahasteaks.com ,promo code BEEF for $35 off at checkout. Our Sponsors: * Check out MyBookie and use my code SE for a great deal: https://www.mybookie.ag * Check out Nathan and Sons at https://nathanandsons.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
