The Datsusara Podcast

Chris Odell
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DATSUSARA 脱サラ is a Japanese phrase that essentially means "To escape drudgery and find one's true path". This concept of living a life of self determination is the primary focus of the show. Episodes will feature guests that are examples of living the Datsusara way. The show is hosted by Chris Odell who is the founder of a the modern hemp gear companies, Datsusara (DSgear.com), and Odell Sports & Leisure (OdellSports.com).

  1. FEB 6

    #41 Robb Wolf - Optimal Health Through Modern Science & Paleo Wisdom

    Chris has a fun and educational talk with ancestral health expert Robb Wolf. Robb is a former research biochemist, author of The Paleo Solution and Wired to Eat. In addition he co-founded the first and fourth CrossFit affiliates and co-founded the popular electrolyte drink LMNT. Topics discussed include: Supplementation, paleo diets, sleep nutrition, training and recovery tips for older athletes (with a focus on BJJ of course), and why the modern fear of the sun is irrational. SubStack: @robbwolf Youtube: RobbWolfVideos Facebook: robbwolfonline IG: @dasrobbwolf LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/ Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 38m

  2. 12/02/2025

    #40 Roy Dean - Finding the Way Through BJJ

    Chris speaks with Jiu Jitsu black belt Roy Dean about everything from his early start earning black belts in the traditional martial arts of Judo, Aikikai Aikido, Seibukan Jujutsu and Enshin Itto Ryu Batto Jutsu, a Japanese sword system, all the way to achieving his 4th degree in BJJ under Roy Harris. They discuss martial arts in general, but mostly their shared passion for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, the best ways to learn, to teach, and Roy's unique approach to it all as colored by his history and his training under Roy Harris. Roy has a great website and produces a lot of excellent video content for the Jiu Jitsu community often in collaboration with his student and friend Rick Ellis who was on episode #39. Roy also has two books out about his martial arts journey, "The Martial Apprentice" and "Becoming the Black Belt" (Chris has read the latter and highly recommends). He is also producing a new coffee table style book called "Groundswell, the Rise of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in America" which is a beautiful piece of work that honors the history of the art, and you can see the fully funded Kickstarter page for here. Website: https://www.roydean.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@roydean Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/roydeantv IG: @roydean_ Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 43m

  3. 12/02/2025

    #39 Rick Ellis - Older and Wiser Grappling

    Chris and jiu jitsu black belt Rick Ellis talk about his career path that led him to establish The Art of Skill website which produces engaging video content primarily for the BJJ community, his founding and hosting of the Old Grapplers Summit events for practitioners over 40, teaching jiu jitsu, the unique style of his teacher Roy Dean, and of great importance to Chris, who is 49 now, they also get into training methodologies for the aging grappler. Website: https://www.theartofskill.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/theartofskill Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theartofskill/ IG: @RickEllisHQ Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 17m

  4. 10/31/2025

    #38 Jack Taufer - Jiu Jitsu Training, Teaching & Traveling

    Chris has an enlightening conversation with Jack Taufer, a Dave Kama Jiu Jitsu black belt. They talk about his beginnings in the art looking for a way to deal with street fights in Utah as a young man and then finding Jiu Jitsu which changed his life. They also discuss his time traveling and teaching the art to students all over the world. They also talk about the importance of Rickson Gracie teachings and why he is interested in continuing to share that knowledge with other practitioners. IG: @JackTaufer Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 50m

  5. 09/24/2025

    #37 Ryan Young - Preservation & Transmission of Rickson Gracie Jiu Jitsu

    Chris has a conversation with 3rd degree black belt Ryan Young who runs Kama Jiu Jitsu's Dallas Texas location. Ryan has been training since 1989 under Relson Gracie in his home state of Hawaii. He talks about the early days of Jiu Jitsu in America and how he eventually met Rickson Gracie student and Dirty Dozen member Dave Kama. Chris and Ryan also talk about the preservation of Rickson Gracie lineage Jiu Jitsu as a holistic system, the difficulties of teaching and learning the art, and what is lost in modern Jiu Jitsu. Kama Jiu Jitsu and  Instagram Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 24m

  6. 09/01/2025

    #36 Nathan Orchard - Pathologically Aggressive

    Chris catches up with Nathan Orchard, a 3rd degree BJJ black belt under Eddie Bravo at 10th Planet. They talk about his unorthodox beginnings as a self taught MMA fighter, and his move to focus on Jiu Jitsu in the 10th Planet system where he was promoted to blue belt status before ever taking a class. Later the conversation turns to philosophy not just on Jiu Jitsu but ancient wisdom practices and observations on modern trajectories. NathanOrchard.com and  Instagram Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 54m

  7. 08/01/2025

    #35- Chris Burns - F**k 'Em if They Can't Take a Choke

    Host Chris Odell has a long and amusing conversation with BJJ Black Belt and somewhat reluctant BJJ instructional video star Chris Burns. They discuss Chris' history and current work in the realm of Jiu Jitsu, their shared passion for the original martial art, particularly as shown by Rickson Gracie, in contrast to the sport style. They also explore the teaching mindset, and dig into Chris' unique, sometimes controversial personality and presentation. Chris Burns is a second degree black belt under Rickson Gracie and the founder of the Zero Point Gracie Jiu Jitsu Academy. He also works with The BJJ Project which produces a ton a of great content with his teachings. Chris Burns' Instagram and Facebook Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 48m

  8. 07/07/2025

    #34 - James Driskill - Rickson's Uke & Principal Learning

    Chris sits down with James Driskill, a Rickson Gracie black belt currently serving as Rickson's full time uke and assistant instructor. James has applied the principals of learning to many areas of life including regenerative agriculture, cannabis farming and many more topics covered in the discussion.   Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory" Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts  (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).

    1h 52m
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DATSUSARA 脱サラ is a Japanese phrase that essentially means "To escape drudgery and find one's true path". This concept of living a life of self determination is the primary focus of the show. Episodes will feature guests that are examples of living the Datsusara way. The show is hosted by Chris Odell who is the founder of a the modern hemp gear companies, Datsusara (DSgear.com), and Odell Sports & Leisure (OdellSports.com).

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  • Creator
    Chris Odell
  • Years Active
    2016 - 2026
  • Episodes
    42
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2025 Datsusara LLC
  • Show Website
    The Datsusara Podcast