At Sea with Justin McRoberts

Justin McRoberts

A weekly interview show with culture makers and shakers. In each installment, host Justin McRoberts talks with artists, creatives, policymakers, and theologians that are striving and pushing for humanity to reach new heights.

  1. Stop Calling Yourself Broken: A Conversation About Sobriety and Wholeness with Laura McKowen

    12/11/2025

    Stop Calling Yourself Broken: A Conversation About Sobriety and Wholeness with Laura McKowen

    This week, Justin sits down with bestselling author Laura McKowen for an honest, layered conversation about sobriety, identity, creative calling, and the slow, often painful work of becoming whole.   Together they explore: • Why “place” matters for emotional and spiritual grounding • The strange internal pull that guides creative people long before they have language for it • How early snippets of desire can act as breadcrumbs into a future self • The difference between writing for yourself and writing for publication • Why AA saved Laura’s life—and where its framing can unintentionally keep people small • How relapse, repeated “Day Ones,” and imperfect recovery are part of the human journey • The relationship between money, creativity, and integrity • Why the long work of sobriety is ultimately a long work of identity The episode closes with a reading from In the Low and a reflection on why wholeness—not speed, not perfection—is the actual goal. Laura's Website - https://www.lauramckowen.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/laura_mckowen Links For Justin:Read Justin's Substack Order In The Low - NEW Book with Scott EricksonCoaching with JustinOrder In Rest - New Book of Poems Order Sacred Strides JustinMcRoberts.com Support this podcast NEW Single - Let Go NEW Music - Sliver of Hope NEW Music - The Dood and The Bird The Book - It Is What You Make itHearts and Minds Amazon Barnes and Noble

    1h 14m
4.9
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62 Ratings

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A weekly interview show with culture makers and shakers. In each installment, host Justin McRoberts talks with artists, creatives, policymakers, and theologians that are striving and pushing for humanity to reach new heights.

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