PCS to Corporate America

Cameron-Brooks

A Podcast to Catapult Careers and Help You Master the Military-to-Business Transition

  1. Aug 12

    E242: Alumni Roundtable: 37 Officers, 384 Interviews, Every Officer Pursued

    What Actually Happened at the June 2026 Career Conference Thirty-seven officers. Three hundred eighty-four interviews across two days. Every single officer pursued by an industry-leading company for the follow-up process. Two weeks later, most of the officers knew where they were launching their business careers. In this episode, Cameron-Brooks transition coach Brock Dudley sits down with two recent alums to talk through what the June conference was actually like and what they would tell an officer preparing for August. In this episode: – Why Jake went on five follow-up visits and received an offer from every one – How Xavier’s one location requirement nearly cut his options in half, and what changed his mind – What eleven interviews in two days actually feel like, and why they were conversations rather than tests – The number both officers say you should be comparing when you evaluate an offer, and it is not base salary – The two weeks after the conference, and the scheduling mistake to avoid Meet the panel: Xavier Mallet spent eight years in the Army as an engineer officer, leading a platoon in Hawaii and commanding a construction company in Germany. He is now a project manager at AMS Industrial in the Denver area. Jake Sidner served just about five years in the Marine Corps as an air defense control officer and left as a captain. He is now a go-to-market finance manager at Motorola Solutions in Chicago, where he grew up. If you’d like to learn more from other recent alums about their experience, you can listen to the following alumni roundtables: April 2026 Career Conference February 2026 Career Conference November 2025 Career Conference August 2025 Career Conference  If you have any questions, we’re happy to help. For those of you in our program, we know how daunting the process up the career conference can be. We are here for you and we’ve got your back. In the meantime, practice in your study groups, stay active in discord, and attend your interview workshops. And if you’re new to Cameron-Brooks and are looking to explore your transition to the business world, we’re happy to talk. Follow Cameron-Brooks on LinkedIn.

  2. Jul 27

    E241: How to Build Elite Teams (with Saša Mirković)

    In this episode, Joel Junker sits down with Saša Mirković, author of The Inspire Code, to talk about freedom, the importance of trust and conflict, and how leaders can build teams that can run without them. Saša’s story doesn’t start in the boardroom. It starts in Sarajevo. He survived the siege of the city in the 1990s, served two years in the military, and came to the United States after the war. In 1998, he applied to 385 jobs. He got one reply. He eventually landed at American Express Financial Advisors, worked his way up to VP, and in 2006 started his own practice. Today, the Inspire Confidence Group spans multiple offices, alongside a leadership company and a tax firm. But the most important lesson in this episode came from a failure. In 2018, Saša’s business partner left the firm. Eighty percent of the team walked out with him. That was the moment Saša realized he had been talking about leadership without actually building trust. Why does trust matter so much for a team? Trust is the currency of leadership. You can’t lead without it, the same way you can’t run a business without money. And Saša is clear on where it starts: the leader gives trust first. It’s planted, earned, and renewed every day. Trust is also what makes healthy conflict possible. Saša describes problems like a beach ball. You see one side. Your teammate sees another. Strong teams fight the problem together instead of fighting each other. Joel and Saša also get into Slack and Flow, Saša’s framework for working smarter: eliminate half of what you do, delegate the rest to technology and to people who love that work, and protect real thinking time every week. It’s how his team doubled the business without adding headcount. Whether you’re a junior military officer preparing for your transition or a leader building your first civilian team, this one is full of ideas you can use right away. Want to learn more? – The Inspire Code by Saša Mirković (Amazon bestseller! Hardcover now out) – The Nudge — Saša’s weekly two-minute leadership newsletter, Wednesdays at 5 a.m. ET – Inspire Network — white papers, Tug Cards, and a complimentary coaching session Thinking about your own career transition? At Cameron-Brooks, we help junior military officers transition from the military into rewarding business careers. See what career fields our candidates move into. If you’re a company-grade or field-grade officer exploring what’s next, Joel, the entire Cameron-Brooks team, and I are here to help. Feel free to reach out below. We’re here to help and listen and see if this path could be right for you. Email: candidates@cameron-brooks.com  Call: 210-874-1500 Speak with a Coach

  3. Jul 6

    Encore of E163: Military-to-Corporate History With Mary Lou White

    We are bringing you a special encore episode following a truly historic time in America: our 250th birthday. In honor of this milestone, we thought we would talk about another type of founding: the founding of Cameron-Brooks. In this episode, you will hear from our very own Mary Lou White. She is one of the founding members of Cameron-Brooks and has been helping Junior Military Officers transition from the military to Corporate America for over 50 years. Here she will talk about Cameron-Brooks’ history and the history of the military-to-business industry. A California native, Mary Lou met Roger Cameron and Rene Brooks. Roger and Rene were both working for a company named Career Seminars at that time. The company worked with JMOs but also did other types of recruiting. After Career Seminars underwent a restructuring, Roger and Rene decided to build their own company focused on helping military officers transition to the business world. The rest, as they say, is military-to-corporate history. Mary Lou takes us on a journey from the early days of Cameron-Brooks, life before technology, and the way things “used to be.” One key takeaway: although processes, technology, and people have changed along the way, the core mission of Cameron-Brooks has never wavered. Our goal is to change people’s lives by helping them reach their professional goals and dreams. Thank you, Mary Lou, for your warmth, commitment, and servant’s heart! You have made a tremendous impact on many thousands of officers and their families. We are proud of the role we’ve played in military-to-corporate history. Contact us if you’re interested in learning more about your transition options. You can also check out our Transition Guide on “3 Game-Changing Strategies for JMOs Making the Jump to Business” for additional transition tips. We recommend subscribing to our YouTube channel and following us on LinkedIn to stay connected.

  4. Jun 22

    E240: What JMOs Bring to Corporate America (with Alum George Pesansky)

    In this episode, Lauren Kordzik sits down with Cameron-Brooks alum George Pesansky to discuss what his 30 years of hiring and building teams taught him about JMOs, and why the best companies keep coming back to hire these great leaders. George Pesansky came through Cameron-Brooks in 1996 as an Army officer. He didn’t know exactly what was next. He just knew he was ready for something new. Thirty years later, he’s built a company, hired JMOs, and coached leaders inside some of the most complex manufacturing operations in the world. He wrote a book about it. And he still comes back to the same idea when someone asks what separates good leaders from great ones. We Before Me We before me. It sounds simple. But George will tell you, it’s actually rare. Most organizations, at some point, start optimizing for individuals. Career paths, visibility, personal outcomes. It’s subtle. But over time, it shapes how decisions get made and how teams show up. JMOs come from a different culture entirely. The mission is the priority. The team is what matters. Candor isn’t a personality trait; it’s expected. That doesn’t disappear when someone transitions out of the military. It comes with them. George also pushes back on one of the most common reasons companies hesitate to hire JMOs: they don’t have industry experience. His take? There’s a difference between knowledge and skill. Knowledge (a product, a process, a system) can be learned in weeks. Skill (real leadership, the ability to drive results through people, the discipline to do the hard thing) takes years to build. JMOs already have it. Hiring managers sometimes get those two things mixed up. When you get that hiring decision right, the return isn’t just one good hire. It’s a stronger team. Fewer people walking out the door. A culture people want to stay in. George saw it firsthand. And he’s watched it play out over and over again in the organizations he’s worked with since. Work with Cameron-Brooks If you’re looking to hire a JMO for your team, we would love to connect. Feel free to contact us to learn more about attending a Cameron-Brooks Hiring Conference. Or feel free to email Lauren Kordzik at lkordzik@cameron-brooks.com. For any JMOs thinking the transition? We’re here to help.

  5. May 22

    E239: Alumni Roundtable: 3 successful military to business transitions, study groups, and art

    The April 2026 Cameron-Brooks Career Conference has officially come to a close. We had 48 interviews, 51 companies, and 540 interviews over two days. Every single candidate was pursued. Every single candidate who entered the follow-up process received an offer. In this episode of the Cameron-Brooks podcast, Brock Dudley sits down with three recent alums to talk through what actually happened at conference and what they’d do differently if they were starting over. Learn how these three officers navigated their transitions from business In this episode, you’ll hear: – How Ryan Smith accepted an offer in a location that wasn’t listed originally on the job description, and why that happened – How Scott Hicks honed his ability to answer interview questions confidently without sounding robotic – Why David Tierney (an art major) ended up in financial services and what being “open” really means in practice – What all three wish they had done earlier in their preparation Meet the panel: – Ryan Smith, former Navy officer, now in medical device sales at Boston Scientific CRM in Jacksonville, FL – Scott Hicks, former Army officer, now in medical device sales at Zoll in Atlanta, GA – David Tierney, Army officer, now heading into financial services at Horace Mann If you’d like to learn more from other recent alums about their experience, you can listen to the following alumni roundtables: February 2026 Career Conference November 2025 Career Conference August 2025 Career Conference  If you have any questions, we’re happy to help! For those of you in our program, we know how daunting the process up the career conference can be. We are here for you and we’ve got your back. In the meantime, practice in your study groups, stay active in discord, and attend your interview workshops. And if you’re new to Cameron-Brooks and are looking to explore your transition to the business world, we’re happy to talk. Follow Cameron-Brooks on LinkedIn.

  6. Apr 30

    E238: 30 Years of Conferences (What Michelle and Candy Want Every Officer to Know)

    30 Years of Conferences: What Michelle and Candy Want Every Officer to Know For more than 30 years at Cameron-Brooks, Michelle Spisak and Candy Belcik have worked with thousands of military officers navigating the transition from active duty to corporate America. In this mini episode of PCS to Corporate America, they share the honest, practical advice they wish every officer heard before starting their transition. Here are the key takeaways: 1. Lead with your leadership. Your degree matters less than you think. Companies hiring through Cameron-Brooks are looking for your leadership experience first. That is your strongest asset and the thing that sets you apart. 2. Going it alone means going through filters. When you apply online you are competing against hundreds of applicants and may never reach a hiring manager. Cameron-Brooks removes those filters and gets you in front of 8 to 12 hiring managers in two days at our career conference. 3. The conference has changed but the support has not. Since the pandemic, Cameron-Brooks moved to a fully virtual conference model, which actually aligns with how most companies now conduct first round interviews. The format is different but the experience, the coaching, and the care behind the scenes is the same. 4. Start early. Not for Cameron-Brooks. For you. The more time you give yourself in the program, the more you will get out of it. Listen to the full episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or at cameron-brooks.com. And if you’d like to speak with a career coach, we’re happy to talk. Follow Cameron-Brooks on LinkedIn.

  7. Feb 16

    E236: Navigating Career Transitions (with Dave Parmly)

    Military to Corporate Leadership: Dave Parmly on Navigating Career Transitions, Integrity, and the Trusting the Process With over 40 years of experience spanning the US Military, KFC, Pilot Company, and CSUSA Shoffner, Dave Parmly has navigated multiple career transitions and leadership roles. Each of these transitions required preparation, trust, and the willingness to listen and adapt. In our latest PCS to Corporate America podcast episode, Dave shares the leadership principles that guided him from military service to senior HR and operations roles in business. Here are some of the core themes from the episode: You Don’t Just Transition Once It is easy to view the military to civilian transition as a one-time event. However, each new role, each new company, each new life change is its own transition. Dave partnered with Cameron-Brooks and made the military to business transition in 1990. Through his storied career, he navigated career transitions along the way, across companies, roles, and locations with his family. And he’s picked up incredible wisdom along the way. Listening and Seeking Feedback Are Leadership Fundamentals Dave’s move to corporate leadership taught him that listening is one of the most underrated leadership skills. He encourages leaders to seek feedback from multiple sources: peers, direct reports, even family members. If you’re not actively seeking feedback, you’re missing opportunities to grow. Integrity Means Being a Whole Person Too often, people compartmentalize their lives. They’re one person in the office and another person at home. But, according to Dave, true integrity means aligning who you are in these different spaces and showing up authentically. What are ways you can show up more authentically at work? How are the benefits of increasing trust at work? Listen to the Full Episode This episode was truly a gift. Great conversation, great people, great advice. Thank you to Joel Junker and Dave Parmly for your wisdom and generosity. Listen to the full episode wherever you listen to your podcasts, and if you’re curious about Joel’s own military to business transition, check out this blog. Thinking about your own career transition? If you’re a company-grade or field-grade officer exploring what’s next, Dave, Joel, the entire Cameron-Brooks team, and I are here to help. Feel free to reach out below. We’re here to help and listen and see if this path could be right for you. Email: candidates@cameron-brooks.com  Call: 210-874-1500 Speak with a Coach and Schedule a Personal Marketability Assessment

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