Hagley History Hangout

Hagley Museum and Library

Podcast by Hagley Museum and Library

  1. Oct 26

    Pentagon Capitalism: How the Cold War US Military Modeled Itself on Private Business with AJ Murphy

    Pentagon Capitalism: How the Cold War US Military Modeled Itself on Private Business (Harvard University Press, 2026) is a pioneering study of the Cold War military-industrial complex shows how defense leaders reorganized the US armed forces in the image of commercial enterprise. In an interview conducted by Roger Horowitz (Hagley Center Director), Muphy explains how leaders of the defense bureaucracy looked to private industry for inspiration. They reasoned that since the military now resembled a huge industrial conglomerate, it should be run like a business. The services even engaged management consultants to establish officer-training academies modeled on the Harvard Business School. After the Vietnam War, many military leaders pushed back, questioning “managerialism” and calling for a return to traditional concepts of command. Civilian critics also chimed in, protesting the callousness of the business-minded secretary of defense, Robert McNamara, who famously measured success and failure in body counts. By this time, however, the language and values of management had thoroughly infiltrated the military’s institutional structure and daily operations. As Murphy makes clear, the reorganization of the defense bureaucracy along the lines of a for-profit firm durably altered the experience of military work and facilitated the lasting privatization of US national security. Murphy made extensive use of Hagley collections in his research, and received financial support from two Hagley grants: the Henry du Pont Dissertation fellowship (2016) and the Lou Galambos Fellowship in Business and Politics (2018-19). Currently he is assistant professor of history at Brandeis University. To make a donation underwriting this program and others like it please visit our donations page: https://host.nxt.blackbaud.com/donor-form/?svcid=tcs&formId=c2f4e3f6-2d8a-4251-9a8b-cfdea1fe0e4a&envid=p-wYaPX570-EiMzBCsCu8rSg&zone=usa

    Pentagon Capitalism: How the Cold War US Military Modeled Itself on Private Business with AJ Murphy
  2. Aug 16

    Divided Environment: The Splitting of Workplace and Environmental Regulation with Jasper Cattell

    Let’s say that poison gas leaks from a manufacturing plant, sickening workers and local residents. Should OSHA investigate, or the EPA? Who is responsible when both agencies have a claim to jurisdiction? The American federal government regulates the workplace and the non-workplace environments separately, despite their material inseparability; the workplace is part of the environment and vice versa. How and why did the American regulatory landscape come to have this awkward and contradictory split? Jasper Cattell, PhD candidate at Brown University, formulated this novel question and seeks an answer in his dissertation project. Cattell conducted research in the archives of labor organizations, environmental groups, federal agencies, and the business community. To get at the latter, Cattell visited the Hagley Library to examine the archives of the National Association of Manufacturers, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, and other private business organizations. The messily drawn boundary between workplace and environmental regulation served the interest of the various outside groups who could play one agency against the other to gain favorable outcomes. In support of his work Cattell received funding from the Center for the History of Business, Technology, and Society at the Hagley Museum and Library. For more information, and more Hagley History Hangouts, visit us online at hagley.org. To make a donation underwriting this program and others like it please visit our donations page: https://host.nxt.blackbaud.com/donor-form/?svcid=tcs&formId=c2f4e3f6-2d8a-4251-9a8b-cfdea1fe0e4a&envid=p-wYaPX570-EiMzBCsCu8rSg&zone=usa

    Divided Environment: The Splitting of Workplace and Environmental Regulation with Jasper Cattell

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