Beat Your Genes Podcast

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Evolutionary psychology with Dr. Doug Lisle, PhD and Nathan Gershfeld, D.C. Most psychology advice treats your brain like a broken machine. Beat Your Genes starts somewhere different: your instincts aren't broken. They're just optimized for a Stone Age environment that no longer exists. Dr. Lisle - Evolutionary psychologist, former Stanford lecturer, and co-author of The Pleasure Trap - has spent decades developing frameworks that explain human behavior from the ground up. Nathan Gershfeld, D.C. - trained first as an electrical engineer and then spent 14 years as a Doctor of Chiropractic. He brings a systems thinker's curiosity to every conversation. He mostly lets Dr. Lisle talk. Topics include relationships and attraction, self-esteem, personality, depression and anxiety, willpower, the ego trap, and how pushy people exploit agreeable ones. 380+ episodes. New episodes every other week. New here? Start at beatyourgenes.org/start-here

  1. MAY 13

    Perfect on Paper, But Not for Me - Mate Value, Attraction, and the Disagreeable Personality

    Most people assume mate value is a fixed, rankable number and that attraction follows logically from it. Dr. Lisle says that is the wrong model entirely. Mate value has deep objectivity across a population, but your personal experience of any given partner is completely subjective - and those two truths are not in conflict. The confusion between them is costing people real answers about their own lives. In this episode, Dr. Lisle works through three listener questions that all circle the same territory: how personality shapes our social lives, why disagreeable people struggle to hold friendships, and why a woman married to an objectively high-value man finds herself drawn to men who look worse on paper. He explains the mating search image, the leap of hope, mutation load theory, the mechanics of disagreeable personality in social settings, and why shy people consistently take what comes to them rather than going after what they might actually want more. 0:36 Question 1: Being disagreeable isn't something you can fix through social technique - and what you can actually do instead 0:58 The "generosity cologne" strategy: how material generosity offsets the social friction of a difficult personality 10:40 Dale Carnegie, sales training, and why interpersonal technique only works if your personality already supports it 22:35 Question 2:  The shy listener's dilemma: why introverts consistently leave friendships and romantic opportunities unclaimed 38:55 Question 3: What "objective mate value" actually means - and why it does not mean what most listeners think 44:28 The mating search image explained: how your DNA builds preferences the way it builds taste receptors 53:00 The leap of hope: why attraction fades after a more thorough assessment of a partner's genetic code Beat Your Genes is co-hosted by evolutionary psychologist Dr. Doug Lisle, PhD and Dr. Nathan Gershfeld, DC. New episodes every other week. YouTube: youtube.com/@BeatYourGenes beatyourgenes.org Doug Lisle: esteemdynamics.com Nathan Gershfeld: fastingescape.com X: @BeatYourGenes Intro and outro: City of Happy Ones. Ferenc Hegedus. Licensed for use. Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    1 hr

  2. APR 29

    When the Marriage Is Over, but the Mortgage Isn't

    Most people think a marriage in trouble can be downgraded into a business arrangement to protect the house. Dr. Lisle says that is the previous investment trap talking, not your judgment. The four walls are not where the happiness lives, and the asset you are protecting is far less valuable than the years you would spend chained to a dead relationship to keep it. In this episode, Dr. Doug Lisle answers two listener questions that sit at opposite ends of the romantic life cycle. A 28-year-old wants to convert her marriage to a 40-year-old husband into a business partnership to keep the house they just bought. A 70-year-old hopeless romantic is troubled to learn relationships are transactional and wonders why the men chasing her are half her age. Dr. Lisle unpacks the previous investment trap, the real reason housing has become a financial trap, why every interaction is a cost-benefit analysis without being cold, the difference between lust mechanisms and love instincts, and why a soft flirty stance attracts casual mating strategy suitors no matter your age. Key question covered: Are all relationships transactional, and if so, how do you tell the difference between someone activating your love instincts and someone running a cost-benefit analysis on your house, your pension, and your car? Beat Your Genes is co-hosted by evolutionary psychologist Dr. Doug Lisle, PhD and Nathan Gershfeld New episodes every other week. YouTube: youtube.com/@BeatYourGenes beatyourgenes.org Doug Lisle: esteemdynamics.com Nathan Gershfeld: fastingescape.com X: @BeatYourGenes Intro and outro: City of Happy Ones. Ferenc Hegedus. Licensed for use. Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    50 min

  3. APR 15

    380: You're Not Overreacting About Your Partner (Here's why)

    Your partner's habits are driving you crazy and asking nicely isn't working. The common advice is to be more patient, communicate better, or just accept your partner as they are. Dr. Lisle says that's not a solution it's a non-answer. What feels like a simple annoyance is actually a specific set of social and biological costs your nervous system is calculating in real time, and trying to Jedi mind trick yourself into caring less won't work. The real question is which costs are actually bothering you and what the smallest targeted intervention is to address them. In this episode, Dr. Lisle breaks down a listener question about a husband's recurring habits — nail biting, nose picking, and elbows on the table — and uses it to walk through his full problem-solving framework. He explains grooming circuits and why nail biting is a Stone Age instinct, not a character flaw; how Esteem Dynamics explains why public manners feel like a status threat; why annoyance is just low-grade anger and anger is a poker game; and how to break a complicated relationship problem into its actual components so you can engineer a real solution instead of escalating to a tantrum that won't work anyway.  00:00 Intro/Question read 03:00 Nail biting, hair pulling, and others are grooming circuits, not anxiety 09:30 Elbows on the table: a different problem entirely 15:18 Can I generally become less annoyed by my partner's habits? 24:34 How to generally solve a problem 31:15 The manicure experiment/kazoo strategy 33:10 Psychotherapy is running experiments 44:08 Annoyance is anger, and anger is a poker game. How escalation works.  Have a question for Dr. Lisle? Submit it at beatyourgenes.org Beat Your Genes is co-hosted by evolutionary psychologist Dr. Doug Lisle, PhD and Dr. Nathan Gershfeld, DC. New episodes every other week. https://beatyourgenes.org Doug Lisle: https://esteemdynamics.com Nathan Gershfeld: https://fastingescape.com Intro and outro: City of Happy Ones. Ferenc Hegedus. Licensed for use. Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    1h 7m

  4. APR 2

    379: Why Your Partner Stopped Trying (It's Not What You Think)

    Most people assume that whoever cares less in a relationship holds the power. In this episode, Dr. Doug Lisle explains why that framing gets it completely backwards. What people call the "care gap" isn't a power move at all. It's a signal about what's actually happening in the competitive marketplace both partners are operating in. Whether you're feeling the gap or causing it, the real question isn't who cares more. It's why. As Dr. Lisle explains, what's actually driving that dynamic, and what to do about it, depends on a highly individual matrix of mate value, aging, personality, and life circumstances. In this episode: ·       0:00 — Announcement: Beat Your Genes is returning to YouTube. Subscribe at @BeatYourGenes ·       1:52 — The care gap question: why does he seem to stop trying after the relationship stabilizes? ·       12:30 — How mate value shifts differently for men and women after 40, and why evolution designed it that way ·       24:15 — The love instinct, the magic 10%, and why Match.com didn't solve loneliness ·       35:40 — What "caring less" actually signals, and what to do if you're on the losing end of the trade ·       46:00 — The chiseling chip: the one vicious cycle Dr. Lisle says can sometimes be broken Key question covered: Is the care gap in long-term relationships inevitable, or is there something you can actually do about it? Beat Your Genes is co-hosted by evolutionary psychologist Dr. Doug Lisle, PhD and Dr. Nathan Gershfeld, DC. New episodes every other week. 🎥 YouTube: youtube.com/@BeatYourGenes  🔗 beatyourgenes.org 📩 Doug Lisle: esteemdynamics.com 📩 Nathan Gershfeld: fastingescape.com 𝕏 @BeatYourGenes Intro & outro: City of Happy Ones. Ferenc Hegedus. Licensed for use. © Beat Your Genes Podcast

    1h 1m

  5. MAR 24

    378: All's Fair in Love, War, AI, and the Marketplace

    Q1: I am an artist and I will occasionally use AI for reference material.  But I still sketch the image out onto canvas and then paint it all by hand.  My issue is when other artists create AI artwork, print it on canvas and then maybe embellish the work with some paint and try and present the work as an original painting.  There is one woman in particular in my neighborhood who does this and people actually fall for it. She charges very low prices for these quote unquote paintings.  The people who buy the artwork are likely older and cannot tell the difference.  I'm actually not sure how so many people in our community fall for her scam because, to me, it is blatantly obvious what she is doing. I know that artists are now selling online and globally so it shouldn't need to be a local thing.  But I actually depend a lot on local sales because many people prefer to buy artwork to support artists in their community.   So basically, what does one do when a fellow villager is cheating at your expense? 0:00 Teaser Clips & Intro 00:52 Local artist asks how to compete when others are selling AI art as hand-painted originals 17:12 Music innovation caused the Fall of the Opera House 31:48 There is no stopping innovation 43:22 What about other jobs being taken by AI? X: @BeatYourGenes Web: www.beatyourgenes.org Doug Lisle, PhD www.esteemdynamics.com Nathan Gershfeld, DC www.fastingescape.com Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones • Ferenc Hegedus Licensed for use Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    57 min

  6. MAR 11

    377: Dr. Lisle ESCAPES Dubai … to talk about Acceptance/Commitment therapy

    Q1: Dear Dr. Lisle,  I am curious what your thoughts are on Acceptance and Commitment therapy? I am a psychologist, and I have to use this method at my job, and I have noticed that some of the points of the treatment is a bit similar to your method. For example the focus on committing to value-driven behavior to give purpose in life is similar to the behavior that brings us closer to our survival and reproductive goals. However it seems like the method see negative thoughts and feelings as something we should just accept as part of life, and not something that should guide our behavior in any way, and instead it says that it should be our values that guide our behavior. It feels like they got it right with the committed action, but it feels like a mistake to dismiss our thoughts and feelings like that. What do you think about this? 0:00 Teaser Clips & Intro 2:09 Iran bombs Dubai while Dr. Lisle is there 18:50 Psychologist asking about Acceptance & Commitment Therapy 27:00 Your values are innate including religious beliefs 46:45 Limits to facing the facts of reality 1:00:48 Psychotherapy basic principles are like friendships 1:13:14. The future of psychotherapy 1:16:03 Final thoughts X: @BeatYourGenes Web: www.beatyourgenes.org Doug Lisle, PhD www.esteemdynamics.com Nathan Gershfeld, DC www.fastingescape.com Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones • Ferenc Hegedus Licensed for use Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    1h 17m

  7. MAR 5

    376: He wants the physical, She wants the emotional

    0:00 Teaser Clips & Intro 2:10 A little bit about Bitcoin 2:40 Q1: He wants sex, she wants connection 10:45 Females are defensive until they see love cues 22:25 Suspected key issue 29:15 Could it be a phone addiction? 32:50 Q2: Are people doing romance backwards? 42:15 Can I be happy without a partner? 52:16 Final thoughts Q1: My husband and I have been fighting about the same issues our entire marriage (18 years).  He complains that I don't have sex with him enough or that when we do have sex I'm not into it (which I'm not).  I don't want to have sex with him because I don't feel close to him at all.  He works long hours at a stressful job.  It is not uncommon for us to barely speak on workdays.  He comes home stressed and tired so he spends the evening staring at his phone or watching TV.  I have tried to explain that it is important to me that we talk or at least spend a little bit of time together every day, but he doesn't change.  The only time he shows any interest in me is when he wants to have sex.  I feel like we are stuck in a terrible loop, but I don't know how to get out of it. Q2: Many of the experienced and wise people that I know, say 50 and older AND wise, have realized that they DON'T have to be in a romantic relationship in order to be happy.  In general, have people overestimated the need to be in a romantic relationship?  Should our own individual happiness and self-reliance come FIRST as a required prerequisite in order to be truly ready for a romantic relationship?  Are some people "doing it backwards" by demanding romance from the world, when they could have instead been happy for decades FIRST...when the RIGHT romance then happens to maybe arrive (partially because they themselves are now so attractive to others due to being so happy and self-reliant)?   X: @BeatYourGenes Web: www.beatyourgenes.org Doug Lisle, PhD www.esteemdynamics.com Nathan Gershfeld, DC www.fastingescape.com Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones • Ferenc Hegedus Licensed for use Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast

    57 min

  8. FEB 5

    375: Am I Still Hot? The OCD-Like Anxiety of Aging

    Evolutionary psychologist, Doug Lisle, PhD discusses listener questions with co-host, Nathan Gershfeld. Dear Dr. Lisle, This question is about coming to terms with aging. I know that being "young" is somewhat a relative term, but I'm a woman turning 35 this year and I can't stop worrying about my aging face and the beauty I'm losing and will continue to lose. I've always been a little ocd about my looks, but I feel that this relatively new problem is an insurmountable one. For me, a huge part of feeling good is knowing I look good. And knowing that eventually one day I won't look good is eating away at me. I'm constantly wondering, am I still attractive? How many years do I have left? Then I look at pictures of myself from the past and shake my head because I could have been enjoying myself instead of worrying. I really was attractive. I kind of missed out on those years because of these incessant doubts and fears. I have not yet done any invasive medical procedures like botox but am wondering if I should, since everyone else seems to be doing it. However, I'm also worried about the risks they carry. What I'd really like is to not to be bothered by my aging face, I'm hoping one day I just won't care, but my mother is in her 60s and still gets procedures done. I'm thinking my obsessions will get worse as I get older. Please help! 0:00 Teaser Clips & Intro 0:45 A little bit about Bitcoin 3:45 Listener is Coming to Terms with her Aging 12:25 Personality traits are on a Bell curve 22:20 Aging anxiety is normal and common 40:10 An interesting experiment 47:30 Final thoughts X: @BeatYourGenes Web: www.beatyourgenes.org Doug Lisle, PhD www.esteemdynamics.com Nathan Gershfeld, DC www.fastingescape.com Intro & outro song: City of Happy Ones • Ferenc Hegedus Licensed for use Copyright Beat Your Genes Podcast   Psychologist mentioned in the show: Laura Bruce, Ph.D. www.PhillyOCD.com

    49 min
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Evolutionary psychology with Dr. Doug Lisle, PhD and Nathan Gershfeld, D.C. Most psychology advice treats your brain like a broken machine. Beat Your Genes starts somewhere different: your instincts aren't broken. They're just optimized for a Stone Age environment that no longer exists. Dr. Lisle - Evolutionary psychologist, former Stanford lecturer, and co-author of The Pleasure Trap - has spent decades developing frameworks that explain human behavior from the ground up. Nathan Gershfeld, D.C. - trained first as an electrical engineer and then spent 14 years as a Doctor of Chiropractic. He brings a systems thinker's curiosity to every conversation. He mostly lets Dr. Lisle talk. Topics include relationships and attraction, self-esteem, personality, depression and anxiety, willpower, the ego trap, and how pushy people exploit agreeable ones. 380+ episodes. New episodes every other week. New here? Start at beatyourgenes.org/start-here

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