...These Are Their Stories: The Law & Order Podcast

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Kevin Flynn and Rebecca Lavoie invite special guests to talk about ripped-from-the-headlines episodes of Law & Order, SVU, and Criminal Intent. It's the f'ing OG of police procedurals!

  1. L&O: They prosecute a mom who wouldn't breastfeed

    MAR 4

    L&O: They prosecute a mom who wouldn't breastfeed

    Detectives Lenny Briscoe and Ed Green track down a young family that skipped town, leaving behind a bloody crib. Each parent claims the other fled with the baby. When the detectives find the infant’s body buried in a backyard, Dr. Rogers determines he starved to death. A lactation specialist tells ADA Abbie Carmichael the mom refused to breastfeed, so EADA Jack McCoy assigns Carmichael to go solo and prosecute the mother for manslaughter. The defense argues the child starved because the father refused to help and the specialist pressured her to not use formula. Carmichael counters that if a woman chooses to have a baby, she must take responsibility for that child. We're talking about Law & Order season 10 episode 12 "Mother's Milk." Our guest is Thaddeus Danquah from the "Happy Media" podcast. This episode takes some inspiration from the 1999 case of Tabitha Walrond.     New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    52 min
  2. SVU: A dirty cop, infant drug mules, and cocaine-mixed baby formula. And Stabler gets his first kill!

    FEB 18

    SVU: A dirty cop, infant drug mules, and cocaine-mixed baby formula. And Stabler gets his first kill!

    Detectives Benson and Stabler are called in when an infant dies after drinking baby formula mixed with cocaine. When more tainted formula is found in the home of Derek Pfeiffer, Fin and Munch suspect he's been smuggling in the liquid coke from Mexico. But things take a turn when IAB takes over the investigation and Pfeiffer is murdered. Cragen strong-arms Tucker to let Elliot go undercover and infiltrate the drug ring. It's managed by a dirty cop, and when a sting goes sideways, Stabler is forced to shoot him in self-defense.   Still looking for the kingpin, Benson and Cragen learn Pfeiffer never had a baby. His wife had been taking her infant nephew to Mexico as a cover to smuggle the formula.  Now the kingpin is tying up loose ends by killing Mrs. Pfeiffer and all the other mothers who rented their babies as drug mules. We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 4 episode 12 "Risk." Our guest is Mel Barrett from the "Something's Off" and "The Inbetween" podcasts. Some inspiration for this episode comes from the 1992 case of NYPD officer Michael Dowd. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    47 min
  3. SVU: The rapist's new partner is...Stabler!

    FEB 4

    SVU: The rapist's new partner is...Stabler!

    A retired cop tells Detective Elliot Stabler the perp he's looking for is Ray Schenkel (played by Robert Patrick), who got out of jail the morning a girl was raped. Schenkel had kidnapped victims with the help of his cousin, and Huang predicts he'll seek a new partner. Stabler poses as a sex offender, befriends Schenkel, and joins his therapy group to monitor his actions. They set up a sting, but he resists attacking their decoy. Captain Cragen thinks Schenkel might be sincere in his effort to change his ways, but Detective Olivia Benson thinks it's just a matter of time.  Even undercover, Stabler cannot hide his anger issues from the therapist. Schenkel finally gives into his urges. He kidnaps a girl and drives to an abandoned factory where he orders Elliot to rape her. The girl escapes, but Stabler and Schenkel are left to confront one another...and confront their own demons. We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 7 episode 1 "Demons." Our guest is Chris Farrah from the Vanity Farrah podcast. This episode takes some cues from the Hillside Strangler case. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    55 min
  4. CI: Who blew up the car? Mom or dad?

    JAN 21

    CI: Who blew up the car? Mom or dad?

    Three young boys are killed by a car bomb, their mother Doreen and older brother in the front seat are the only survivors. Detectives Goren and Eames learn Paul Whitlock developed a new kind of land mine and his wife had spotted some threatening-looking Middle Eastern men before the blast.  But there are indications the pipe bomb was built in their garage and someone swept it up. Bobby and Alex suspect the depressed Doreen blew up the car in a murder/suicide attempt. ADA Ron Carver insists the overbearing husband is their best suspect. The detectives find a space heater Doreen tampered with to leak carbon monoxide. The overwhelmed mother confesses she wanted to take the children to heaven with her, where she could be a better parent. But Goren and Eames discover the cold-blooded Whitlock knew Doreen wanted to die and was fine if she did - he just didn’t know the children would get hurt. Enraged at his cruelty, the detectives insist Carver hold him legally responsible, but he says there’s no crime in not stopping your wife from killing herself and her family. We’re talking about Law & Order: Criminal Intent season 4 episode 7 “Magnificat.” Our returning guest is Katie from the A Date with Dateline podcast. Plot points in this episode are inspired by the 2001 case of Andrea Yates. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    57 min
  5. SVU: Why didn't Daddy pick me??

    JAN 7

    SVU: Why didn't Daddy pick me??

    Lt Olivia Benson helps a victim who can't remember the details of her attack the previous day. Laurel Linwood is spiraling emotionally. She says after her father's funeral she wound up in a bar, met a man with the same after-shave and expensive watch as her father, and now has vague memories of a pair of scissors.  The SVU investigation shifts after Detectives Fin Tutuola and Sonny Carisi find the suspect dead. Laurel tries to bond with Olivia over emotionally distant fathers who never loved them. Laurel says her dad had sex with her as a child, but the details aren't adding up. Olivia realizes she's describing events that only happened to her younger sister, and that actually Laurel is jealous of the attention she got. The suspect admits she killed the man because he reminded him of her father, someone who never loved her enough. We're talking about the very dark Special Victims Unit season 19 episode seven "Something Happened." Our returning guest is Roberta Blevins from the "Life After MLM" podcast. We were told this episode has parallels to the life of Crystal Mangum, but if it does, we don't know what they are. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    48 min
  6. L&O: They won't convict the guy for shooting that insurance CEO, will they?

    12/24/2025

    L&O: They won't convict the guy for shooting that insurance CEO, will they?

    After a health insurance executive is gunned down on the sidewalk by a vigilante, Det. Vincent Riley chases the suspect all over Manhattan. Lt. Jessica Brady discovers, not only are citizens unwilling to help them find the fugitive, people start dressing like him to disrupt their manhunt. ADA Samantha Maroun says Ethan Weller targeted OptiShield's CEO because the company denied his late mother's claim for an experimental drug. DA Nicholas Baxter worries the jury will not convict a defendant who's gained folk hero status for killing a man who represents the worst kind of corporate greed. EADA Nolan Price thinks it's a slam dunk murder conviction, but an activist judge seems eager to see Weller go free. We're talking about Law & Order season 24 episode 16 "Folk Hero." Our returning guest is Ellyn Marsh from the "I Think Not" podcast. This episode is inspired by the case of Luigi Mangione. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    52 min
  7. SVU: Who shook the baby? Mom? The nanny? Stabler?

    12/10/2025

    SVU: Who shook the baby? Mom? The nanny? Stabler?

    Det. Stabler and Cpt. Cragen investigate what they think is a botched kidnapping at a playground that left a toddler in a coma. They give up the hunt for a creepy guy with a camera when doctors determine little Lucy's injuries occurred days earlier when she was violently shaken. Though suspicion falls on the nanny, Stabler homes in on Lucy's widowed mother, Evelyn.  After ADA Novak puts the mom on trial, the child's condition worsens. If Evelyn keeps Lucy on life support, her daughter will suffer immense pain. If she takes her off the respirator, the charges will be upgraded to murder. Stabler appeals directly to DA Branch to get the court to end the child's suffering. In court, Evelyn admits she shook Lucy because she didn't want the child to interrupt a night of romance. Later, Stabler confides in Cragen about a time he took out his frustrations on his own baby daughter. We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 5 episode 10 "Shaken." Our guest is Jessica Spawn from the Gal on the Prowl podcast. This episode takes its inspiration from the 1997 case of Louise Woodward. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    48 min
  8. SVU: Is Bradley Cooper, Angela Lansbury, or Alfred Molina killing undocumented women?

    11/26/2025

    SVU: Is Bradley Cooper, Angela Lansbury, or Alfred Molina killing undocumented women?

    The squad investigates the case of a dead woman found with hundred dollar bills shoved in her mouth. Detectives Benson and Stabler learn the woman was an undocumented worker at a woman's sex club. A community activist (Rita Moreno) tells the detectives 16 undocumented women have been attacked by the same rapist - but none will report the crimes for fear of deportation. When Serbian refugee Nina gives Olivia the cash her attacker left, they link a fingerprint to an attorney (Bradley Cooper) who handles the estate for socialite Eleanor Duvall (Angela Lansbury, in an Emmy-nominated performance). Elliot suspects her oddball son Gabriel (Alfred Molina) is the rapist, but the victim is mysteriously detained before she can make an identification. ADA Casey Novak stops Nina's deportation so she can testify against Duvall. As she prepares for trial, an assailant disguised as a flower delivery man beats Casey up in her office. Stabler accuses Duvall, but the attacker is actually Nina's religiously conservative brother, incensed that Novak has let the world know his sister is no longer a virgin. The assault on the prosecutor complicates the case, so DA Arthur Branch gives it to ADA Tracey Kibre (Bebe Neuwirth) for a trial by jury. We're talking about Special Victims Unit season six episode 20 "Night," the first part of a crossover episode with Law & Order: Trial by Jury season one episode 11 "Day." Our guest is Holly Brown from Salty AF. This episode takes some inspiration from the case of South Side Rapist Kevin Coe and his mother Ruth. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 1!  For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon. This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    50 min
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