Education On Fire - Sharing creative and inspiring learning in our schools

Mark Taylor

Do you feel the education system is sucking the life out of you and the pupils you serve? I think many of us wish we could click our fingers and make it fit for purpose. A place of growth with shared learning that empowers pupils to be their best selves, so they can create a world they want to inhabit now and in the future. While a magic wand or a visionary politician might sound like the answer I believe change is already happening. Educators are changing futures one conversation at a time. New technology and the environments where we learn are beginning to look different both in and out of the classroom. I hope you are seeing this first hand and are excited about what you can share with your pupils. We are having conversations, sharing organisations and communities that are supporting education in a way that you may have not experienced. Educational change will come from us all working in way that supports the best interests of each of our pupils, personalised learning. Governments and policy makers will follow when they see fully how it can be different. So let us teach, coach, mentor and create an environment that fuels every child with feedback, inspiration, resilience and empowerment. The Education on Fire community is shining the torch, so no matter where you are in the world or how you are supporting children this podcast is here for you. ‘Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.’

  1. 2D AGO

    BBC Bitesize Guide to AI

    Cerys Griffiths is the Head of BBC Bitesize, the BBC's free, online learning resource for students aged 5 to 16, their teachers and parents. Bitesize also aims to support educating the whole child through it's Careers, Study Support and media literacy offer, Other Side of the Story, as well as special educational initiatives like the Bitesize Guide to AI. Cerys was, for many years, a journalist in the North West, a TV and newspaper reporter and then an editor of news programmes for both ITV and the BBC. She is on the board of the Micro:bit Education Foundation and is an advisory board member for the Science and Industry Museum in Manchester. Key Takeaways Teen attitudes to AI are complex — BBC Bitesize's annual Teen Summit Survey found a third of teenagers are worried about AI's impact on their career prospects and the spread of misinformation, while 47% are already using AI tools for homework and revision. Confidence can be a blind spot — Many young people feel they already know enough about AI when in reality they don't fully understand its deeper implications. The challenge is helping them recognise what they don't yet know. Critical thinking is the core skill — Rather than focusing on specific tools (which change rapidly), BBC Bitesize's approach centres on equipping young people with the ability to assess, verify and question the information they encounter every day. AI as a collaborator, not a substitute — Cerys emphasises that AI works best as a companion tool. Young people still need to be thinkers, creators and developers alongside it — not passive users of it. A positive, empowering outlook — BBC Bitesize's Guide to AI uses real young people in real-world scenarios to show both the benefits and risks of AI, deliberately avoiding a fear-based approach. New resources to tackle misinformation — Solve the Story is a brand new episodic mini-drama for classroom use, where students must solve a fake news mystery across six episodes — a creative, engaging way to build media literacy skills. Trust is BBC Bitesize's superpower — All content is reviewed by practising teachers and education consultants, making it one of the most trusted sources of educational content in the UK. Chapters: 00:03 - Introduction to BBC BiteSize06:08 - The Evolution of AI in Education09:35 - The Role of AI in Education and Misinformation18:55 - Introducing 'Solve the Story' - A New Educational Initiative23:20 - Educational Content Creation and Trust29:00 - Empowering Youth Through Education https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize Instagram: @bbcbitesize 🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources. https://www.educationonfire.com 🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunities https://www.educationonfire.com/support #EducationOnFire Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape 2026 Conference Keynote : Reading for Pleasure – Dr Roger McDonald Workshops focusing on National Year of Reading : Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama and Story Telling, Poetry https://educationonfire.com/reading

    32 min
  2. MAR 23

    The Kids Who Aren't Okay with Ross W. Greene Ph.D.

    Ross W. Greene, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and the originator of the innovative, evidence-based approach called Collaborative & Proactive Solutions (CPS), as described in his influential books The Explosive Child, Lost at School, Lost & Found, and Raising Human Beings. He developed and executive produced the award-winning documentary film The Kids We Lose. Dr. Greene was on the faculty at Harvard Medical School for over twenty years and is now founding director of the nonprofit Lives in the Balance. He is also currently adjunct Professor in the Department of Psychology at Virginia Tech. Dr. Greene has worked with several thousand kids with concerning behaviors and their caregivers, and he and his colleagues have overseen implementation and evaluation of the CPS model in countless schools, inpatient psychiatry units, and residential and juvenile detention facilities, with dramatic effect: significant reductions in recidivism, discipline referrals, detentions, suspensions, and use of restraint and seclusion. Takeaways: Dr. Ross Greene emphasizes the necessity of adopting proactive strategies in education to better support children facing mental health challenges.We discusses the importance of meeting each child where they are developmentally, rather than enforcing a one-size-fits-all approach in education.Dr. Greene's approach advocates for understanding and addressing the underlying problems causing concerning behaviors rather than merely modifying the behaviours themselves.The conversation highlights the alarming increase in mental health issues among children, which necessitates a shift in educational practices and societal attitudes towards youth.A focus on developmental variability is crucial in education, as every child's needs and experiences are unique and deserve tailored support. Chapters: 00:11 - Introduction to Dr. Ross Greene and Collaborative Solutions08:17 - Meeting Every Kid Where They're At10:54 - Understanding Developmental Variability in Education22:34 - Understanding Student Behavior and Systemic Issues32:54 - The Importance of Collaborative Change in Education38:22 - Empowering Change in Education https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Kids-Who-Arent-Okay/Ross-W-Greene/9781668203903 🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources. https://www.educationonfire.com 🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunities https://www.educationonfire.com/support #EducationOnFire Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape 2026 Conference Keynote : Reading for Pleasure – Dr Roger McDonald Workshops focusing on National Year of Reading : Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama and Story Telling, Poetry https://educationonfire.com/reading

    42 min
  3. MAR 16

    "You Can Only Aspire to What You Know Exists" – A Musical Journey Through Education

    In this solo reflective episode, host Mark Taylor wraps up the first part of the Ger Graus Gets Gritty season by doing something personal — instead of a straightforward summary, he weaves the season's key themes through the story of his own life in music. From a secondary school wind band to 30 years as a professional musician and music educator, Mark explores how opportunity, community, practice, and personalised learning shaped his path. He draws on insights from his conversations with Ger Graus to reflect on what great education looks like — and what's at risk when funding, trust, and time are taken away. A heartfelt and thought-provoking listen for anyone who believes in the transformative power of education. 1. Children can only aspire to what they know exists Exposure is everything. Mark's entire music career began because a school programme placed an instrument in his hands. Without that structured opportunity, he simply wouldn't have known it was possible. Educators and systems have a responsibility to show children what the world contains. 2. The task is not to make the impossible possible — but to make the possible attainable Big dreams don't require giant leaps. What they require is a visible next step. Mark's path grew one rung at a time: junior band → senior band → county ensemble → music college → profession. Clear, accessible stepping stones are what turn potential into reality. 3. Deep practice builds something you can rely on under pressure When Mark performed his first brass band drum solo, it went well not because of talent — but because he'd practised so thoroughly it was in his muscle memory. Real mastery means the skill holds even when nerves are high. This applies far beyond music. 4. Community makes the individual possible Behind every successful learner is a network of people: a visionary head teacher, an encouraging music teacher, parents organising lifts, peers in an ensemble. Mark's journey wasn't a solo performance — it was a collective effort. Nurturing that ecosystem around a child matters as much as the teaching itself. 5. Wellbeing isn't a bolt-on — it's what happens when children are fully themselves Rather than offering mindfulness classes as a fix for an overburdened curriculum, Mark argues that real wellbeing comes from giving children time to pursue what lights them up. Meaningful, deep engagement with something they love is the wellbeing strategy. 🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger. https://www.educationonfire.com 🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunities https://www.educationonfire.com/support #EducationOnFire Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape

    30 min
  4. MAR 2

    GGGG Ep 7 - And finally

    Based on the final chapter of Prof Dr Ger Graus's book Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education (Routledge), this conversation asks the most honest question of the entire series: So what? Ger examines what 40-plus years of educational work has truly changed — and what it hasn't. At the heart of the episode is a sobering reckoning: Wythenshawe, the deprived area of Manchester where Ger dedicated much of his career, remains in the bottom 25% of England's most disadvantaged communities — just as it was in 1999. Yet rather than despair, Ger finds meaning in the individual lives transformed, the schools that finally began collaborating, and the quiet but lasting legacy of the Education Action Zone that brought 29 schools together for the first time. Joining the conversation are educators, researchers, and colleagues who offer their own reflections on the book's significance — including insights from OECD Education Director Andreas Schleicher's afterword, and a passionate endorsement from Russian education researcher Dr. Sergey Kosaretsky. Key Quotes Ger Graus on systemic change: "Certain dials are too big to shift by one person or by one small organisation. It's a concerted effort — and in order to see the big picture, all pieces of the jigsaw need to fall into place." Ger Graus on political impatience: "It's taken you since the 1944 Education Act to keep getting it wrong. Whatever made you think that in five years we would solve all your problems?" Andreas Schleicher (OECD), quoted from the book's Afterword: "The task is not to make the impossible possible, but to make the possible attainable." Dr. Sergey Kosaretsky on the book's message: "Education is not only schools. Education is not only universities. Education is a lot of things that children do every day — with their friends, their parents, with themselves." Mark Sylvester on Ger's philosophy: "One of the things he would say is that he wants to teach children, but also to teach humans how to learn." Key Takeaways 1. Structural poverty is stubborn — but individual impact still matters. Despite decades of effort, the communities Ger worked in remain among England's most deprived. He doesn't shy away from this, but argues that transforming individual lives — like the girl from Wythenshawe who played Juliet in Italy and re-engaged with school entirely — is proof that the work was never wasted. 2. Change in education takes generational patience. Politicians want results in five-year cycles. Ger argues that meaningful educational reform operates on a far longer timeline, and that unrealistic expectations are one of the biggest barriers to real progress. 3. Lived and informal experience is education too. Multiple contributors highlight that education extends well beyond school walls — into homes, exchanges, community experiences, and play. Ger's career has been defined by championing this broader definition. 4. The book is a call to action, not just a memoir. Colleagues urge policymakers — especially those working on England's forthcoming schools white paper — to read Through a Different Lens and draw from its hard-won lessons. It's described as "a textbook for all teachers, educators, and parents." 5. Asking "so what?" is an act of courage, not defeat. Ger's willingness to interrogate his own legacy — particularly in the shadow of a cancer diagnosis — models the kind of honest, reflective leadership that education urgently needs. Chapters: 00:07 - Introduction to the Series02:54 - Reflecting on Impact and Change10:41 - Reflections on Education and Poverty15:40 - The Importance of Lived Experience in Education19:42 - The Importance of Education Beyond Schools24:27 - The Role of New Leaders in Education https://www.gergraus.com Get the book – Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education 🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger. https://www.educationonfire.com 🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunities https://www.educationonfire.com/support #EducationOnFire Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape 2026 Conference Keynote : Reading for Pleasure – Dr Roger McDonald Workshops focusing on National Year of Reading : Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama and Story Telling, Poetry https://educationonfire.com/reading Testimonials John Cosgrove - Retired Headteacher and Author, UK Richard Taylor - Former Head of English and Colleague of Ger, UK Mark Sylvester - Executive Producer, TEDx, USA Professor Sergey Kosaretsky - Vice Rector for Research, Moscow State University of Psychology and Education (MSUPE)

    28 min
  5. FEB 23

    GGGG Ep 6 - More than a school - measuring what we value

    "More Than a School: Values, Measurement, and What Education Is Really For" In this episode of the Ger Graus Gets Gritty series, Mark Taylor sits down once again with Professor Dr. Ger Graus OBE to explore one of his most passionate themes — the idea that schools are, and must intentionally become, more than a school. Drawing on his own transformative work leading Education Action Zones in Wythenshawe, South Manchester, Ger makes a compelling case for community-rooted education that puts the whole child first, measures what truly matters, and trusts teachers as the professionals they are. Inspired by FC Barcelona's famous motto Més que un Club ("More than a Club"), Ger argues that schools — particularly primary schools embedded in their communities — have always carried responsibilities far beyond academic instruction. But rather than waiting for government to dictate how those responsibilities are fulfilled, he urges schools to seize the agenda, define their own values, and prove their impact on their own terms. From breakfast clubs to brokering local solutions within a network of 29 schools, from the dangers of league table dishonesty to the transformative power of professional trust. It's a rallying call to educators, parents, and policymakers alike. "Schools invariably already are more than a school. But I think we need to become better at it and perhaps we need to become more deliberate at it." "If we want to do the 'more than a school' bit properly, I think we need to begin with the values of why are we doing this — and what is the impact, and how is that good for our children, our families, our communities?" Key Takeaways 1. Schools must be deliberately "more than a school." The challenge is to make that broader role intentional, values-driven, and properly resourced, rather than reactive and underfunded. Schools should stop waiting for government permission and start leading the agenda themselves. 2. Start with the whole child, not the average child. A child who is hungry, cold, or emotionally unsettled cannot learn. Ger champions breakfast clubs, pastoral support, and out-of-school activities not as "nice extras" but as the essential foundation for learning. The 10 A's identified in Cambridge University research on Children's University — including attendance, attainment, attitudes, adventure, agency, and advocacy — offer a far richer picture of school impact than narrow inspection frameworks. 3. Measure progress, not just performance. League tables and one-size-fits-all inspection frameworks distort reality and incentivise dishonesty. Ger advocates for progress measures that reflect a school's specific community context — comparing a school against its own journey rather than against wealthier, more selective institutions. Meaningful accountability means schools defining and measuring their own impact transparently. 4. Professional trust is the missing ingredient. The Wythenshawe Education Action Zone showed what's possible when teachers and headteachers are genuinely trusted: 29 schools that had never met collectively began collaborating, sharing expertise, and solving problems from within. No external consultants, no top-down directives — just professionals empowered to know their children, their families, and their communities. 5. Respect and trust for teachers must be made visible — by everyone. Ger's closing call to action is personal and practical. To parents: engage with teachers as the professionals they are, rather than rushing to challenge or undermine them. To government: back up the rhetoric of "trusting teachers" with real autonomy. And to everyone: make trust visible in small, tangible acts — like a handwritten thank-you note after a difficult week. As Ger puts it, "We need to make trust and respect visible. We owe that to our teachers." Chapters: 00:01 - Introduction to the Series01:13 - More Than a School: Understanding Community Impact29:20 - Building Community Trust in Education32:31 - Transforming Education: A New Approach42:20 - The Impact of Demographic Changes on Education01:02:07 - The Ongoing Journey of Education https://www.gergraus.com Get the book – Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education 🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger. https://www.educationonfire.com/ 🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunities https://educationonfire.com/support #EducationOnFire Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape 2026 Conference Keynote : Reading for Pleasure – Dr Roger McDonald Workshops focusing on National Year of Reading : Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama and Story Telling, Poetry https://educationonfire.com/reading

    1h 5m
  6. FEB 16

    GGGG Ep 5 - The role we play

    In this episode of the Ger Graus Gets Gritty series, Professor Dr. Ger Graus OBE tackles what he calls "the most underestimated aspect of a child's learning and growing up"—the role adults play as models in young people's lives. Through personal stories, including his daughter's early obsession with "Mrs. Poole" her nursery teacher, and insights from his global work with Kidzania, Ger reveals how children unconsciously absorb behaviours, values, and dreams from the adults around them, often in ways we never notice. This conversation goes beyond the surface of role modeling to question the fundamental structures of modern education. Ger and host Mark Taylor examine why schools still operate on an industrial-era framework—early start times that conflict with adolescent sleep patterns, restricted bathroom access, rushed lunch periods causing "collective indigestion"—and explore what education could look like if we redesigned it around how children actually learn and thrive rather than outdated factory models. "If we want a world that is respectful and that is kind and considerate and that is inquisitive and curious, then we need to begin to lead by example. That is the most important part of our job description when it comes to our young people." Key Takeaways 1. Adults are role models whether they realize it or not. Children absorb everything from the adults around them—teachers, parents, neighbours, and community members. This "copied behavior" is one of the most underestimated aspects of learning, and adults must become conscious of the example they set in values, kindness, curiosity, and respect. 2. Lead by example, not just instruction. Children learn more from what we do than what we say. Schools that demonstrate values through everyday behaviour—greeting people warmly, showing kindness, opening doors—create cultures where children naturally adopt these behaviors, regardless of socioeconomic background. 3. The industrial model of education is outdated and failing students. Current school structures—rigid schedules, minimal breaks, locked toilets, rushed lunches—are remnants of the Industrial Revolution designed to prepare workers for factories. This model no longer serves students' needs or prepares them for modern life. 4. Schools should be community-owned "more than schools" Educational institutions need to transform into community hubs that serve broader purposes, with flexible hours (perhaps 8am-6pm), adequate meal times, and involvement from employers and community members. Schools should measure and value different outcomes beyond traditional academics. 5. Careers education has failed generations and continues to fail. Adults consistently report that their careers education was either laughable or non-existent. Despite this universal acknowledgment, little has changed. Meaningful change requires creating experiential learning environments where young people can explore possibilities and develop authentic aspirations. Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction to the Series01:18 - The Role We Play in Children's Lives13:20 - The Role of Teachers as Role Models21:39 - The Importance of Values in Education33:06 - The Role of Role Models in Education42:21 - The Impact of Role Models in Education55:40 - The Influence of Role Models on Youth01:08:30 - Rethinking Education: Beyond Traditional Models https://www.gergraus.com Get the book – Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education 🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger. https://www.educationonfire.com/ 🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunities https://www.educationonfire.com/support #EducationOnFire Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape 2026 Conference Keynote : Reading for Pleasure - Dr Roger McDonald Workshops focusing on National Year of Reading : Writing, TESOL, Oracy, Drama and Story Telling, Poetry https://educationonfire.com/reading

    1h 12m
  7. FEB 9

    GGGG Ep 4 - Navigating Technology in Education

    This is the fourth instalment of the "Ger Graus Gets Gritty" series. Based on Chapter 4 of his book Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education (published by Routledge), this episode tackles one of the most contentious topics in modern education: technology. Rather than focusing on the technical aspects of digital tools, Professor Dr Ger Graus OBE reframes the conversation around technology as fundamentally a discussion about human behaviour, courage, and trust. From fountain pens to AI, he traces the historical pattern of moral panic that accompanies each technological advancement, arguing that our concerns reveal more about ourselves than about the technology itself. The conversation challenges the current discourse around banning mobile phones in schools, advocates for student-centered approaches to technology integration, and explores how young people might actually serve as role models for adults when it comes to digital literacy. We discuss engaging students in creating their own codes of conduct and for recognising that technology's impact—positive or negative—ultimately comes down to how we choose to use it. Key Quote On the Mobile Phone Ban Debate: "The fact that we are actually talking about banning mobile phones from schools is unbelievable. It is literally turning around to your children and to mine and saying, now, for whatever, six, seven, eight hours a day, we're going to pretend that they don't exist." Key Takeaways 1. Technology Panic is a Historical Pattern, Not a New Phenomenon Every technological advancement in education—from fountain pens to ballpoint pens, calculators to the Internet, and now AI—has been met with moral panic about "dumbing down" and declining standards. This reveals that our anxieties are less about the technology itself and more about our discomfort with change and our ability to adapt. 2. The Problem Isn't the Technology—It's Human Behavior Technology is neutral; its impact depends entirely on how humans choose to use it. Rather than banning tools like mobile phones, we need to focus on developing appropriate behaviors, codes of conduct, and digital citizenship. The phone sitting on the desk isn't harmful—it's how we interact with it that matters. 3. Students Should Be Partners in Creating Technology Policies Young people are conspicuously absent from public discussions about technology in schools, despite being the most affected stakeholders. Students are capable of creating sophisticated codes of conduct for technology use—often better than adults can create—and are more effective at self-policing when they've been part of the solution. 4. We're Failing at Technology's Greatest Promise: Equity and Democratization The Internet represents humanity's greatest democratizing invention, yet we've failed dismally at addressing equity issues both within countries and globally. The gaps in technology access and digital literacy are growing rather than shrinking, which represents a massive missed opportunity for education and society. 5. Young People Are Our Role Models in Technology, Not the Other Way Around The traditional model of role modeling—where older generations guide younger ones—is reversed when it comes to technology. Adults need to approach young people with respect and humility, learning from their digital fluency and working collaboratively to understand and navigate the technological landscape together. Join the conversation using #educationonfire and share your stories. Chapters: 00:01 - Introduction to the Series01:14 - The Impact of Technology on Education11:19 - The Role of Technology in Education15:02 - The Integration of AI in Education19:15 - The Impact of Technology on Education27:10 - The Role of Technology in Education35:02 - The Role of Technology in Education36:40 - Understanding the Role of Technology in Education46:31 - The Role We Play in Technology https://www.gergraus.com Get the book – Through a Different Lens: Lessons from a Life in Education 🔥 Discover more about Education on Fire, get a FREE pdf of 10 guest resources and be part of our season finale with Ger. https://www.educationonfire.com/ 🔥 Support the show – Buy me a coffee, Merch and Sponsorship Opportunities https://www.educationonfire.com/support #EducationOnFire Show Sponsor – National Association for Primary Education (NAPE) Their Primary First Journal: https://www.educationonfire.com/nape

    50 min
4.8
out of 5
61 Ratings

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Do you feel the education system is sucking the life out of you and the pupils you serve? I think many of us wish we could click our fingers and make it fit for purpose. A place of growth with shared learning that empowers pupils to be their best selves, so they can create a world they want to inhabit now and in the future. While a magic wand or a visionary politician might sound like the answer I believe change is already happening. Educators are changing futures one conversation at a time. New technology and the environments where we learn are beginning to look different both in and out of the classroom. I hope you are seeing this first hand and are excited about what you can share with your pupils. We are having conversations, sharing organisations and communities that are supporting education in a way that you may have not experienced. Educational change will come from us all working in way that supports the best interests of each of our pupils, personalised learning. Governments and policy makers will follow when they see fully how it can be different. So let us teach, coach, mentor and create an environment that fuels every child with feedback, inspiration, resilience and empowerment. The Education on Fire community is shining the torch, so no matter where you are in the world or how you are supporting children this podcast is here for you. ‘Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.’