Behind the Markets Podcast

Behind the Markets

Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio. Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide. Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction. Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit. Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha. Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate. Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.

  1. 2D AGO

    Long-Term Bull, But Short-Term Cautious

    Show from 04/03/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss a surprisingly strong jobs report, the impact of rising geopolitical tensions and oil prices on the economic outlook, and the recent acceleration in money supply and its implications for Fed policy. Professor Siegel notes that while the labor market remains firm and long-term optimism persists, increased uncertainty from war and inflation risks warrants more short-term caution. (11:42) Jeremy continues with Chris Gannatti and Jeff Weniger to cover the potential SpaceX IPO and its implications for index inclusion and market structure, along with broader themes around companies staying private longer and the challenges that creates for public market investors. They also explore valuation trends in equities, shifting earnings expectations, and the evolving impact of AI—particularly in areas like drug discovery—while debating reporting standards and long-term innovation trends. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    45 min

  2. MAR 27

    Tech Turbulence Today, A Retirement Sketchbook for Tomorrow

    Show from 03/27/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz, joined by Jeff Weniger, Michael Fridman, and Chris Gannatti, discuss the recent tech-led market selloff, compression in equity valuations, and geopolitical-driven volatility impacting oil, rates, and global markets. They highlight that despite multiple contraction, forward earnings expectations remain intact, while dislocations in areas like cybersecurity and AI-linked equities may present selective opportunities. (59:58) Jeremy continues with Jamie Hopkins to discuss his new book on retirement planning, focusing on behavioral finance and the role of emotions in financial decision-making. Jamie emphasizes the importance of connecting with your future self, using visualization and automation to improve saving behaviors, and balancing emotional awareness with disciplined planning. He also highlights rising financial fraud risks in an AI-driven world and shares practical strategies for protecting personal data and making more resilient long-term financial decisions. Mike Fridman: https://x.com/justmikeel Your Retirement Sketchbook: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Retirement-Sketchbook-Planning-Financial/dp/1804091952 Jamie Hopkins: https://investors.wsfsbank.com/governance/board-of-directors/person-details/?ItemId=37a7fed2-efb6-4b89-8dc7-4f2b3404d370 WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    1h 48m

  3. MAR 20

    New Strategic Reserve Assets for the AI Era

    Show from 03/20/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz is joined by Sam Rines and Chris Gannatti to break down the broader market and macro landscape. Sam analyzes the geopolitical situation involving Iran, energy markets, and global responses, noting potential de-escalation and limited long-term economic damage. Chris dives into major themes from NVIDIA’s GTC event, including the rise of AI agents, token-based productivity, and the accelerating shift toward physical AI such as robotics and autonomous systems. The group also explores the evolving labor market, AI’s impact on hiring and productivity, and the concept of a “strategic reserve of compute,” where chip scarcity and geopolitical risks could make existing AI infrastructure increasingly valuable. (33:51) Jeremy is joined by Professor Siegel and Kevin Flanagan. They discuss the latest market developments, including rising oil prices driven by escalating tensions in the Middle East, volatility around the S&P 500’s key technical levels, and the recent selloff in gold and commodities. Professor Siegel highlights the Fed’s updated projections, including a notable increase in long-term GDP growth expectations driven by productivity and AI, while emphasizing that geopolitical risks—particularly oil shocks—are currently the dominant force driving markets. He explains that while inflation pressures from tariffs and energy remain a concern, housing data is softening and AI continues to act as a long-term disinflationary force. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    1h 2m

  4. MAR 13

    Markets on Edge: Oil and AI Crosscurrents

    Show from 03/13/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and the WisdomTree team begin the episode discussing the surge in oil prices tied to tensions in the Middle East and how higher energy costs could affect consumers, transportation, and global supply chains. They also examine stress signals in private credit markets, the divergence between private equity firms and the broader S&P 500, and the recent rotation away from mega-cap tech despite improving valuations. The group closes the segment with a discussion on emerging AI themes like agentic AI and robotics, semiconductor capacity constraints, and how investors may rebalance portfolios after energy’s strong performance while looking for opportunities in areas like Japan, industrials, and consumer discretionary. (31:51) Professor Siegel joins Jeremy to share his outlook on the recent oil shock and its impact on markets, noting that while higher gasoline prices may weigh on sentiment and cause short-term volatility, real oil prices remain near long-term averages. He also explains why the Federal Reserve is unlikely to react to a supply-driven oil shock, expects policy to remain on hold for now, and reiterates his long-term optimism for equities and the continued growth of AI. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    42 min

  5. MAR 6

    Weak Payrolls, a Productivity Boom, and Disruptive Tech

    Show from 03/06/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss the surprisingly weak payroll report and how it contrasts with strong economic indicators like ISM data and retail sales, with the Professor suggesting rising productivity—potentially driven by AI—may explain how GDP remains strong with little job growth. They also review geopolitical tensions involving Iran, rising oil prices, and the Strait of Hormuz, with Siegel noting energy shocks could pressure markets but would not likely change the Fed’s near-term policy stance. (18:13) Jeremy continues with Sam Rines and Jeff Wenniger to analyze the oil spike, global geopolitics, and labor market data, including how weather disruptions and strikes may distort the jobs report and lead to a rebound in March employment. The group also discusses China’s economic outlook, energy constraints, and broader investment themes such as international defense spending and innovation cycles outside the U.S. The episode concludes with Jeremy interviewing Ian De Bode of Ando Finance and WisdomTree’s Maredith Hannon about tokenization, stablecoins, and how blockchain-based financial rails could reshape investing, trading hours, and global access to U.S. financial markets. Ian De Bode on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/idebode/ Maredith Hannon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maredith-hannon/ WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    1h 30m

  6. FEB 27

    AI is Not An Apocalypse

    Show from 02/27/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss Professor Siegel’s response to a viral AI “doomsday” scenario, emphasizing that productivity gains from AI would expand output, wages and leisure rather than cause mass permanent unemployment, and arguing that macroeconomic growth from higher productivity would generate trillions in new income to absorb displaced workers. He also weighs in on falling 10-year yields, recent inflation data, oil risks tied to Iran, productivity trends, and his expectation for market rotation away from the MAG 7 toward value and non-AI sectors. (13:40) Jeremy continues with Jeff Weniger and Sam Rines to debate whether AI lowers barriers to entry and enhances innovation rather than destroying knowledge work, put recent tech and software selloffs into perspective against broader market resilience, and examine global equity leadership with strong performance in Japan, Korea and Europe relative to a flat S&P 500, highlighting valuation gaps and structural underweights to non-U.S. markets in portfolios. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    45 min

  7. FEB 20

    The Tariff Rotation

    Show from 02/20/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel break down the latest GDP report, PCE inflation data and housing trends, with the Professor noting that fourth quarter growth was not as weak as headlines suggested once government distortions are adjusted for and that differences between CPI and PCE components explain the recent upside surprise in inflation. He emphasizes that the Supreme Court’s pending tariff ruling and rising tensions with Iran are far more important to markets in the near term than incoming economic data, expecting continued choppiness until there is clarity on both fronts. (9:08) Following the Professor’s departure, Jeremy is joined by Sam Rines, Chris Gannatti and Jeff Weniger to react in real time to the Supreme Court’s 6–3 decision striking down IEPA tariffs as illegal, discussing the implications for corporate refunds, margin expansion and sector rotation. The group examines geopolitical risks tied to Iran, the ongoing rotation into small caps and international equities, weakness in private credit and software, and valuation compression across mega-cap tech ahead of NVIDIA earnings. They also explore improving rental trends, sector leadership shifts toward value and cyclicals, and longer-term themes ranging from AI-driven physical automation to autonomous vehicles and global events like the World Cup as potential economic tailwinds. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    1h 7m

  8. FEB 13

    Trading the Disruptions

    Show from 02/13/26 Host Jeremy Schwartz and Professor Siegel discuss a strong employment report and a softer-than-expected CPI print, highlighting rising real wages, easing rental inflation, and stabilization in unemployment claims. Professor Siegel also addresses growing AI-driven market anxiety, tariff developments, and why he believes the ongoing rotation away from the MAG-7 does not derail the broader bull market. (35:13) Jeremy is joined by Jeff Wenniger, Sam Rines, and Chris Gannatti to break down major global developments, including Russia’s potential return to the dollar system, Taiwan and Singapore’s strong GDP prints, and Japan’s election results strengthening fiscal and defense tailwinds. The group explores the global defense spending supercycle, Asia’s critical role in AI supply chains, and how AI disruption fears are driving sharp rotations within U.S. equities, particularly in software. They also debate whether AI-driven margin compression, pricing competition, and shifting capital flows signal a broader geographic and sector rotation toward international markets and non-tech sectors. WisdomTree: https://www.wisdomtree.com/investments

    50 min
See All (487)

4.4
out of 5
98 Ratings

About

Jeremy Schwartz, Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree and Jeremy Siegel, professor of finance at Wharton and author of Stocks for the Long Run, host this long-running podcast that dives into the how and why of market performance with leading economists and market strategists to inform you what’s ahead for the economy and your portfolio. Regularly joining the two Jeremys is the Deep Rooted Macro Team that decodes the forces shaping markets and portfolios worldwide. Chris Gannatti, CFA, Global Head of Research, offers an analytical and thematic edge—bridging macro trends with on-the-ground technology and innovation. Whether unpacking the infrastructure powering the AI age or latest biotech breakthroughs, Chris translates complexity into conviction. Jeff Weniger, CFA, Head of Equity Strategy, injects the pulse of behavioral markets and valuation discipline. With sharp macro instincts, Jeff dissects cycles, sentiment, and structural change with trademark clarity and wit. Sam Rines, Macro Strategist for Model Portfolios, ties the threads together—linking policy, politics, and portfolio construction. His pragmatic macro lens captures how geopolitics, industrial policy, and energy dynamics flow into real-world GeoAlpha. Together, the Deep Rooted Macro squad creates a fusion of rigorous research, accessible insights, and genuine debate. Behind the Markets provides a regular masterclass in how the world really works beneath the surface of prices, data, and headlines. Tune in to hear where the Deep Rooted Macro team sees the next big shifts taking root.

Information

  • Creator
    Behind the Markets
  • Years Active
    2017 - 2026
  • Episodes
    487
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © All rights reserved
  • Show Website
    Behind the Markets Podcast

You Might Also Like