White Coat Investor Podcast

Dr. Jim Dahle of the White Coat Investor

Host, Dr. James Dahle, is a practicing emergency physician and founder of the White Coat Investor Blog. Like the blog, the White Coat Investor Podcast, is dedicated to educating medical students, residents, physicians, dentists, and similar high-income professionals about personal finance and building wealth, so they can ultimately be their own financial advisor—or, at least know enough to not get ripped off by a financial advisor! We tackle the hard topics like the best ways to pay off student loans, how to create your own personal financial plan, retirement planning, how to save money, investing in real estate, side hustles, and how everyone can be a millionaire by living WCI principles. Learn more at http://whitecoatinvestor.com/

  1. WCI #454: The Numbers and Psychology of Retirement Spending with Christine Benz

    1D AGO

    WCI #454: The Numbers and Psychology of Retirement Spending with Christine Benz

    Today we sit down with Christine Benz, Author, WCICON Speaker, and Director of Mutual Fund Analysis at Morningstar, for a wide-ranging and insightful conversation. We dive into her annual retirement income research, the realities of spending in retirement, and the challenge many retirees face in giving themselves permission to spend. Christine also reflects on the stark gender imbalance in the finance world and highlights the women she believes every investor should be following, whether they invest on their own or work with an advisor. It is a thoughtful, information-rich interview you will not want to miss. Getting Going on Savings Initiative: https://boglecenter.net/gettinggoing/  Best of Jonathan Clements Book: https://www.amazon.com/Best-Jonathan-Clements-Timeless-Financial/dp/0988780348  Laurel Road is committed to serving the financial needs of doctors, including helping you get the home of your dreams. Laurel Road's Physician Mortgage is a home loan exclusively for physicians and dentists featuring up to 100% financing on loans of $1,000,000 or less. These loans have fewer restrictions than conventional mortgages and recognize the lender's trust in medical professionals' creditworthiness and earning potential. For terms and conditions, please visit https://laurelroad.com/wci Disclosures: NOTICE: This is not a commitment to lend or extend credit. Conditions and restrictions may apply. All mortgage products are subject to credit and collateral approval. Mortgage products are available in all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C. Hazard insurance and, if applicable, flood insurance are required on collateral property. Actual rates, fees, and terms are based on those offered as of the date of application and are subject to change without notice. 1. 100% financing is only available to interns, residents, fellows, doctors, dentists, clinical professors, researchers, or managing physicians with a current license and a degree of Doctor of Medicine (MD), Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (DO), Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM), Doctor of Dental Surgery (DDS), or Doctor of Dental Medicine (DMD). Only available when purchasing or refinancing with no cash out on a primary residence and loan amount does not exceed $1,000,000. Retired doctors are not eligible. Additional conditions and restrictions may apply. The White Coat Investor Podcast launched in January 2017, and since then, millions have downloaded it. Join your fellow physicians and other high income professionals and subscribe today! Host, Dr. Jim Dahle, is a practicing emergency physician and founder of The White Coat Investor blog. Like the blog, The White Coat Investor Podcast is dedicated to educating medical students, residents, physicians, dentists, and similar high-income professionals about personal finance and building wealth, so they can ultimately be their own financial advisor-or at least know enough to not get ripped off by a financial advisor. We tackle the hard topics like the best ways to pay off student loans, how to create your own personal financial plan, retirement planning, how to save money, investing in real estate, side hustles, and how everyone can be a millionaire by living WCI principles. Website: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  YouTube: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice: https://studentloanadvice.com  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewhitecoatinvestor  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Newsletter: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 WCI Podcast #454 02:31 Christine Benz Interview 04:00 The Numbers and Psychology of Retirement Spending 24:15 The State of Retirement Income

    1h 9m
  2. MtoM #257: Emergency Medicine Doc Reaches Financial Independence, Cuts Back to Half Time and Bike Rides over 2,000 Miles Across Europe and Financial Boot Camp: How Does PSLF Work?

    4D AGO

    MtoM #257: Emergency Medicine Doc Reaches Financial Independence, Cuts Back to Half Time and Bike Rides over 2,000 Miles Across Europe and Financial Boot Camp: How Does PSLF Work?

    Today we are talking to an ER doc who fulfilled her dream of doing an epic bike ride across Europe. She rode 2,500 miles from Italy to Norway with over 500 people from all over the world. She knows that health is never guaranteed and wanted to accomplish this goal while she is still physically strong enough. She has taken care of her financial life and has reached financial independence so she had the freedom to make some changes to achieve her goal. She was willing to quit her job if necessary but ended up going to part time and with the help of great colleagues she was able to take 7 weeks off. She shows us what the point of financial freedom really is - getting to do what you value with your life! As a white coat, you have valuable knowledge. Various companies want that knowledge. And they're willing to pay you for it! That's why we've put together a list of recommendations for companies that pay you to take surveys. If you're looking for a profitable side gig for not too much effort, getting paid for surveys could be the perfect solution for you. You can make extra money, start a solo 401(k), and use your medical knowledge to impact new products. One of the WCI columnists makes an extra $30,000 a year just doing these surveys. Sign up today and use a fraction of your downtime to make extra cash! Go to https://whitecoatinvestor.com/MDSurveys Celebrating your stories of success along the journey to financial freedom! Tune in every Monday to the Milestones to Millionaire Podcast, where we celebrate the financial achievements of our listeners and share practical tips for reaching your own milestones. We want to celebrate your milestones—no matter how big or small—and help inspire others to follow your lead. Every week, these episodes feature one listener who has recently achieved a milestone they are proud of and want to celebrate, and they give any advice they have for those who want to follow their example. Make sure to listen every Monday to be inspired by your fellow white coat investors. Celebrate YOUR Milestone on the Milestones to Millionaire Podcast: https://whitecoatinvestor.com/milestones  Website: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  YouTube: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice: https://studentloanadvice.com  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewhitecoatinvestor  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Newsletter: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 MtoM Podcast #257 02:20 EM Doc Reaches Financial Independence 20:14 How Does PSLF Work?

    28 min
  3. WCI #453: Common Real Estate Questions from High-Income Professionals

    JAN 8

    WCI #453: Common Real Estate Questions from High-Income Professionals

    Today's episode is all about real estate, straight from the questions you asked during our recent live webinar. We dig into Real Estate Professional Status, short term rental rules, and how the tax benefits actually work across direct properties, syndications, and private funds. We also tackle REITs, including whether target date funds are enough, other Vanguard options beyond VNQ, and where REITs belong in your portfolio from a tax perspective. We also discuss if you really need real estate at all, and how do syndications, funds, and real estate debt compare in the real world. Questions from the Real Estate Webinar: -What does due diligence actually mean? -For the short term rental REP loophole can you still spend more than 100 hours doing a different job, any qualify? -Please go in more detail about short term and opportunity tax loopholes. Any specific resources? -Can the tax benefits of REPs apply to your whole portfolio? ie. direct real estate and private investments? -If you become a real estate professional, for rentals, do you still have to be picked up by a brokerage or can you be the brokerage? -Can you benefit from bonus depreciation to offset your w-2 income in syndications and private real estate funds and does this require REPS? -Are there other REITs with vanguard other than VNQ that may not only include large commercial properties? -If you are going to invest in REITs, where is the best place to purchase those funds? 401? Taxable account? Roth? HSA? -Am I leaving money on the table if I don't invest in real estate in some way? -What are pros & cons of investing in RE Syndication vs Fund vs RE Debt Locumstory.com is a free, unbiased educational resource about locum tenens – it's not a staffing agency. They help answer your questions about the how-to's of locum tenens work on their website, podcast, webinars, videos, and they even have a locums 101 crash course. Locumstory.com is where you should go to find out if locums makes sense for you and your career goals. Locumstory is unique because it's more of a peer-to-peer platform, with real physicians sharing their experiences and stories – both the good and bad – about working locum tenens – hence the name, "Locum-story." See for yourself on their self-service platform with no obligation. The White Coat Investor Podcast launched in January 2017, and since then, millions have downloaded it. Join your fellow physicians and other high income professionals and subscribe today! Host, Dr. Jim Dahle, is a practicing emergency physician and founder of The White Coat Investor blog. Like the blog, The White Coat Investor Podcast is dedicated to educating medical students, residents, physicians, dentists, and similar high-income professionals about personal finance and building wealth, so they can ultimately be their own financial advisor-or at least know enough to not get ripped off by a financial advisor. We tackle the hard topics like the best ways to pay off student loans, how to create your own personal financial plan, retirement planning, how to save money, investing in real estate, side hustles, and how everyone can be a millionaire by living WCI principles. Main Website: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  YouTube: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice: https://studentloanadvice.com  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewhitecoatinvestor  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Newsletter: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 WCI Podcast #453 09:27 Due Diligence in Real Estate 14:12 Goodman Capital Interview 24:35 REPS - Real Estate Professional Status 34:26 REITs - Real Estate Investment Trusts 42:06 Should I Invest in Real Estate? 47:22 Real Estate Syndication vs. Equity Fund vs. Debt Fund

    57 min
  4. MtoM #256: Internist Pays Off $300,000 of Student Loans in 7 Years and Financial Boot Camp: High Deductible Health Plans vs PPO

    JAN 5

    MtoM #256: Internist Pays Off $300,000 of Student Loans in 7 Years and Financial Boot Camp: High Deductible Health Plans vs PPO

    Today we are talking to an internal medicine doc with a great story. She started her medical school journey later in life when she and her husband decided to do whatever it took to help her fulfill her dream of becoming a doctor. Her husband quit his job to stay home and care for their 4 children and she went to medical school. Today we are celebrating her paying off $300,000 of student loans. She has worked hard to pay down debt alongside saving and buying a nice home for her family. Her tips for success are to ground yourself, have a plan and do not let your emotions make your decisions for you. Today's sponsor, Black Swan Real Estate, offers accredited investors access to private multifamily real estate investments with an investor-first model. Unlike most firms, Black Swan collects no GP-level fees and takes no profit until investors receive a full return of capital. Their physician-led team brings a hands-on approach to managing their $375M portfolio, ensuring every asset is optimized for cash flow, appreciation, and tax advantages. With a track record of meeting and exceeding return targets, Black Swan Real Estate provides stability and growth for long-term wealth building. Discover more at https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/blackswan The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors, dentists, and other high-income professionals with their money since 2011. Our free personal finance resource covers an array of topics including how to use your retirement accounts, getting a doctor mortgage loan, how to manage your student loans, buying physician disability and malpractice insurance, asset allocation & asset location, how to invest in real estate, and so much more. We will help you learn how to manage your finances like a pro so you can stop worrying about money and start living your best life. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you! Have you achieved a Milestone? You can be on the Milestones to Millionaire Podcast too! Apply here: https://whitecoatinvestor.com/milestones  Find 1000's of written articles on the blog: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  Our YouTube channel if you prefer watching videos to learn: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice for all your student loan needs: https://studentloanadvice.com  Join the community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Join the community on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Learn faster with our Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Sign up for our Newsletter here: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 MtoM Podcast #256 02:16 Internist Pays Off $300,000 of Student Loans in 7 Years 18:07 Advice For Others 21:18 High Deductible Health Plans vs PPO

    27 min
  5. WCI #452: The Case for Self-Employment with Dr. Tod Stillson

    JAN 1

    WCI #452: The Case for Self-Employment with Dr. Tod Stillson

    Today's episode dives into a hotly debated topic in physician employment: 1099 work. We're joined by Tod Stillson, who brings an enthusiastic case for why independent contracting and self employment can open doors and empower doctors in ways traditional employment often doesn't. Dr. Dahle offers a thoughtful counterpoint, questioning just how impactful 1099 status really is for most physicians. It's a friendly, engaging conversation with plenty of respectful debate, and we think listeners on both sides of the issue will find something to appreciate—and maybe even reconsider. Tod's additional resources: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/the-case-for-self-employment-with-dr-tod-stillson-452  This podcast is sponsored by Bob Bhayani at Protuity. He is an independent provider of disability insurance planning solutions to the medical community in every state and a long-time white coat investor sponsor. He specializes in working with residents and fellows early in their careers to set up sound financial and insurance strategies. If you need to review your disability insurance coverage or to get this critical insurance in place, contact Bob at https://whitecoatinvestor.com/protuity today by email info@protuity.com or by calling (973) 771-9100. The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors, dentists, and other high-income professionals with their money since 2011. Our free personal finance resource covers an array of topics including how to use your retirement accounts, getting a doctor mortgage loan, how to manage your student loans, buying physician disability and malpractice insurance, asset allocation & asset location, how to invest in real estate, and so much more. We will help you learn how to manage your finances like a pro so you can stop worrying about money and start living your best life. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you! Dave Ramsey Image By Gage Skidmore, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=132532176  Find 1000's of written articles on the blog: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  Our YouTube channel if you prefer watching videos to learn: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice for all your student loan needs: https://studentloanadvice.com  Join the community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Join the community on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Learn faster with our Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Sign up for our Newsletter here: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 WCI Podcast #452 05:54 Dr. Tod Stillson Interview 07:27 The Case for Self-Employment 01:09:32 Follow-Up Information from Dr. Tod Stillson 01:17:21 Refinancing Student Loans on 1099

    1h 22m
  6. MtoM #255: PA Becomes a Millionaire and Finance 101: Backdoor Roth IRA Process

    12/29/2025

    MtoM #255: PA Becomes a Millionaire and Finance 101: Backdoor Roth IRA Process

    Today we are talking with a PA who has become a millionaire. This PA has a great story and is in his second career and having tons of success. He lives in a high cost of living area but is not letting that slow him down. He got his education paid for with the NHSC scholarship and has zero debt. Now that his career is cruising he has taken up his passion project of becoming a children's book author. After the interview we will be talking about the Backdoor Roth IRA process for Finance 101. David Pedersen's Children's Book: Good Night, Alex https://a.co/d/8LxZar1  Goodman Capital is a premier real estate credit investment firm specializing in senior-secured, low loan-to-value lending on Class A properties in prime markets across the greater New York metro area. Founded on a family legacy dating back to 1987, Goodman has closed more than $850 million+ across 95+ loans with a track record of zero principal loss. Their flagship private mortgage REIT, Liquid Credit Strategy Fund I, delivered a steady 9% net dividend yield since inception at a very conservative sub-50% LTV. Invest in tax-efficient, high-yield, risk-adjusted debt investment strategies with Goodman Capital at https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/goodman The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors, dentists, and other high-income professionals with their money since 2011. Our free personal finance resource covers an array of topics including how to use your retirement accounts, getting a doctor mortgage loan, how to manage your student loans, buying physician disability and malpractice insurance, asset allocation & asset location, how to invest in real estate, and so much more. We will help you learn how to manage your finances like a pro so you can stop worrying about money and start living your best life. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you! Have you achieved a Milestone? You can be on the Milestones to Millionaire Podcast too! Apply here: https://whitecoatinvestor.com/milestones  Find 1000's of written articles on the blog: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  Our YouTube channel if you prefer watching videos to learn: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice for all your student loan needs: https://studentloanadvice.com  Join the community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Join the community on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Learn faster with our Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Sign up for our Newsletter here: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 MtoM Podcast #255 03:57 PA Becomes a Millionaire 13:30 Advice For Others 16:26 Backdoor Roth IRA Process

    23 min
  7. WCI #451: Roth IRAs and 529s

    12/25/2025

    WCI #451: Roth IRAs and 529s

    In this episode we tackle more of your questions, starting with a look into Roth strategy, including how TSP Roth in-plan conversions work and what to consider when converting a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA and paying the resulting tax bill. We then briefly hear from our friends at Fox CPAs. From there we shift to 529 plans and explore how to use them effectively, what to do if they become overfunded, and whether having too much in a 529 is really a problem at all. Today's episode is brought to us by SoFi, the folks who help you get your money right. Paying off student debt quickly and getting your finances back on track isn't easy, but that's where SoFi can help — they have exclusive, low rates designed to help medical residents refinance student loans—and that could end up saving you thousands of dollars, helping you get out of student debt sooner. SoFi also offers the ability to lower your payments to just $100 a month* while you're still in residency. And if you're already out of residency, SoFi's got you covered there too. For more information, go to https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/Sofi SoFi Student Loans are originated by SoFi Bank, N.A. Member FDIC. Additional terms and conditions apply. NMLS 696891. The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors, dentists, and other high-income professionals with their money since 2011. Our free personal finance resource covers an array of topics including how to use your retirement accounts, getting a doctor mortgage loan, how to manage your student loans, buying physician disability and malpractice insurance, asset allocation & asset location, how to invest in real estate, and so much more. We will help you learn how to manage your finances like a pro so you can stop worrying about money and start living your best life. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you! Find 1000's of written articles on the blog: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  Our YouTube channel if you prefer watching videos to learn: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice for all your student loan needs: https://studentloanadvice.com  Join the community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Join the community on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Learn faster with our Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Sign up for our Newsletter here: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 WCI Podcast #451 01:34 When to Take Your Social Security 09:55 Student Loan Update 22:43 TSP Roth Conversions 27:22 Large Roth Conversions 31:00 Fox & Company CPAs Interview 42:51 Overfunded 529 Accounts 53:45 529 & HSA Reimbursement Timing

    59 min
  8. MtoM #254: Hospitalist Becomes a Full-Time Entrepreneur and Finance 101: Tax Loss Harvesting

    12/22/2025

    MtoM #254: Hospitalist Becomes a Full-Time Entrepreneur and Finance 101: Tax Loss Harvesting

    Today we are talking to a hospitalist who is giving up partnership at his practice to become a full time entrepreneur. He is excited to be able to practice medicine on his own terms. He has always had an entrepreneur mindset and not long after residency he started buying real estate and ultimately ended up buying six car washes with a plan to acquire 3 more before the end of the year. He is comfortable with leveraging debt and has built an empire that has proven very lucrative. He loves that he is building a legacy that he can leave to his children. After the interview we are talking about tax loss harvesting for Finance 101. Still not sure what to do with your student loans?Overwhelmed with how to tackle that giant debt in an ever changing political climate? The experts at StudentLoanAdvice.com are here to help guide you through the best options to manage your loans – our experienced staff have consulted on over $250M in student loan debt, and the average studentloanadvice.com client has saved over $190,000 dollars. You will receive a customized student loan plan using the principles of The White Coat Investor, get answers to all of your student loan questions, gain clarity about your financial future and start down the right path toward financial freedom. Book a consult today at www.studentloanadvice.com. You can do this and The White Coat Investor can help. The White Coat Investor has been helping doctors, dentists, and other high-income professionals with their money since 2011. Our free personal finance resource covers an array of topics including how to use your retirement accounts, getting a doctor mortgage loan, how to manage your student loans, buying physician disability and malpractice insurance, asset allocation & asset location, how to invest in real estate, and so much more. We will help you learn how to manage your finances like a pro so you can stop worrying about money and start living your best life. If you're a high-income professional and ready to get a "fair shake" on Wall Street, The White Coat Investor is for you! Have you achieved a Milestone? You can be on the Milestones to Millionaire Podcast too! Apply here: https://whitecoatinvestor.com/milestones  Find 1000's of written articles on the blog: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com  Our YouTube channel if you prefer watching videos to learn: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/youtube  Student Loan Advice for all your student loan needs: https://studentloanadvice.com  Join the community on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WCInvestor  Join the community on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewhitecoatinvestor  Join the community on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/whitecoatinvestor  Learn faster with our Online Courses: https://whitecoatinvestor.teachable.com  Sign up for our Newsletter here: https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/free-monthly-newsletter  00:00 MtoM Podcast #254 01:40 Hospitalist Becomes a Full-Time Entrepreneur 15:00 Advice For Others 18:54 3 Pathways to Wealth 22:23 Tax Loss Harvesting

    27 min

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Host, Dr. James Dahle, is a practicing emergency physician and founder of the White Coat Investor Blog. Like the blog, the White Coat Investor Podcast, is dedicated to educating medical students, residents, physicians, dentists, and similar high-income professionals about personal finance and building wealth, so they can ultimately be their own financial advisor—or, at least know enough to not get ripped off by a financial advisor! We tackle the hard topics like the best ways to pay off student loans, how to create your own personal financial plan, retirement planning, how to save money, investing in real estate, side hustles, and how everyone can be a millionaire by living WCI principles. Learn more at http://whitecoatinvestor.com/

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