Business of Betting Podcast

Business of Betting Podcast

A podcast covering the sports betting industry from the perspective of bettors, operators, and industry insiders. Hosted by Jeff Edelstein, Senior Analyst at InGame.com.

  1. E297 - Peter Hammon

    Jun 25

    E297 - Peter Hammon

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with Peter Hammon, gaming attorney and consultant at Vela Wood, to discuss prediction markets, exchange wagering, regulatory risk, and the legal battles that could shape the future of sports betting in America.    Hear them discuss: Why prediction markets have created a modern-day gold rush for operators, market makers, and investors looking to capitalize on a rapidly evolving opportunity The growing role of market makers and liquidity providers operating across sportsbooks, prediction markets, and international trading platforms How companies like Kalshi, Polymarket, Fanatics, Novig, and Sporttrade are positioning themselves for a future where prediction markets and sports betting increasingly overlap The legal and regulatory risks facing businesses operating across both state-regulated sportsbooks and federally regulated prediction markets Whether prediction markets have become too big to fail and why Peter believes the ultimate question centers on state versus federal authority over sports wagering Why Kalshi is emphasizing non-sports markets as it prepares for future legal and regulatory challenges The similarities between prediction markets, exchange wagering, poker, and peer-to-peer betting models, and why many of these concepts have existed for years under different names Peter’s journey into gaming law, from launching the UCLA Gaming Law Association to joining Smarkets and helping shape the early exchange wagering movement in the United States How Daily Fantasy Sports helped pave the way for PASPA’s repeal and fundamentally changed the trajectory of legal sports betting in America California’s ongoing sports betting stalemate, the leverage prediction markets may be giving tribal operators, and why the state's unique geography continues to shape the debate   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    46 min
  2. E296 - Chris Dierkes from Novig

    Jun 18

    E296 - Chris Dierkes from Novig

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with Chris Dierkes, Head of Trading at Novig, to discuss exchange-based betting, prediction markets, bankroll management, and the future of the sports betting industry.    Hear them discuss: Why Chris believes betting exchanges provide better value for consumers through tighter pricing, lower fees, and increased flexibility The differences between traditional sportsbook cash-out features and exchange trading, and why bettors should understand the hidden costs involved Whether exchanges are actually safer and more consumer-friendly than sportsbooks despite the learning curve for new users Novig’s strategy for competing with prediction market leaders like Kalshi and Polymarket in an increasingly crowded marketplace The challenge of convincing recreational bettors to prioritize price and value over promotions, bonuses, and brand familiarity How Chris uses the Kelly Criterion to manage risk and determine position sizing when betting with significant edges The thought process behind placing million-dollar wagers and why bankroll management matters more than headline bet sizes Lessons learned from building a betting operation, scaling a bankroll, and overcoming the limitations imposed by traditional sportsbooks The regulatory uncertainty surrounding prediction markets and how potential Supreme Court involvement could shape the industry's future Why Chris chose to move from professional betting into exchange operations, and what he sees as the biggest opportunities ahead for market-based wagering   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    37 min
  3. E295 - David Woodley from SpeedLabs

    Jun 11

    E295 - David Woodley from SpeedLabs

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with David Woodley, sports betting entrepreneur, investor, and advisor to companies including Edge Markets and Speed Labs, to share his perspective on prediction markets, gambling’s place in society, and the startups building the next generation of betting products.   Hear them discuss: Why gambling should be viewed more like alcohol, something most people can enjoy responsibly rather than through an all-or-nothing lens The rise of prediction markets, the regulatory battles surrounding them, and why younger founders are reshaping the industry David’s work with Edge Markets and how the company is reducing payment friction for bettors, sportsbooks, and prediction market traders The evolution of Speed Labs from a survivor pool game into a real-time prediction market platform powered by proprietary micro-market technology Why David believes betting “pick services” are often overrated, while niche businesses focused on solving one problem exceptionally well remain underrated The parallels between gambling, entrepreneurship, collectibles, investing, and other forms of risk-taking How gambling education could benefit from the same practical approach used for alcohol and financial literacy The opportunities and challenges facing startups building products around prediction markets and sports gaming Lessons learned from building, investing in, and advising companies across the betting ecosystem A lighthearted discussion on sports fandom, heartbreak, and why Vikings and Mets fans share a special bond     ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    38 min
  4. E293 - Matt Kalish

    May 29

    E293 - Matt Kalish

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with Matt Kalish, co-founder of DraftKings and founder of Hardscope, to discuss his public criticism of Kalshi, the risks of exchange-style betting products, and why he believes prediction markets are being marketed incorrectly to everyday consumers.   Hear them discuss: Why Matt’s first experience betting on Kalshi triggered concerns about pricing, liquidity, and customer transparency The wager that sparked his deep dive into prediction market mechanics How exchange-style betting differs from traditional sportsbook experiences Why Matt believes retail users are competing against sophisticated Wall Street market makers and API traders The ethical concerns around marketing prediction markets as “easy” or beatable for everyday users Lessons DraftKings learned from the early daily fantasy sports boom and regulatory backlash The similarities and differences between DFS-era marketing and today’s prediction market messaging Why Matt believes companies should clearly position these products as financial markets—not casual sports betting apps Concerns around transparency, enforcement, wash trading, and market surveillance How traditional sportsbooks and state regulators may respond to prediction markets moving forward Why operators like DraftKings and FanDuel can’t afford to ignore the prediction market space Matt’s perspective on consumer product DNA versus Wall Street infrastructure culture Why he believes recreational bettors prioritize entertainment and trust over pure trading mechanics The future of creator-led marketing and why gambling companies still haven’t mastered the creator economy Matt’s transition from DraftKings into building Hardscope and his interest in digital media and creator platforms   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    42 min
  5. E292 - Dan Zimmermann from Betting Intelligence

    May 21

    E292 - Dan Zimmermann from Betting Intelligence

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with Dan Zimmermann, co-founder and Chief Intelligence Officer of Betting Intelligence, to discuss the explosive growth of prediction markets and the weaponization of market data.   Hear them discuss: How Dan transitioned from launching a consumer-facing app to founding a private firm focused on the underlying intelligence value of prediction markets Why he defines "BETINT" as a new discipline alongside OSINT and HUMINT dedicated to interpreting behavior on gambling and stock platforms How prediction markets have expanded far beyond sports to price complex real-world realities like the outbreak of wars and assassinations Why current insider trading guardrails are largely an illusion against individuals with true non-public information who know how to conceal their identity How bad actors and state operations can manipulate public sentiment using fake AI footage and bot farms to move market lines for financial profit The phenomenon of "signal jamming" and how million-dollar volume walls are strategically placed to absorb and mask smaller informational leaks How Betting Intelligence utilizes deep wallet forensics and a natural language AI interface to provide an information insurance layer for newsrooms and government agencies Why Dan’s biggest fear is that massive institutional capital will eventually enter these platforms and price out everyday retail traders   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    33 min
  6. Ep 291 - Megan Lanham from Rithmm

    May 14

    Ep 291 - Megan Lanham from Rithmm

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with Megan Lanham, co-founder and CEO of Rithmm, to discuss the intersection of artificial intelligence and sports betting, the transition from elite coaching to tech entrepreneurship, and how predictive modeling is becoming accessible to the everyday bettor.      Hear them discuss: Megan’s unconventional career path, moving from D1 basketball player and coach to running a pharmaceutical recruiting company before attending MIT and founding an AI startup. The technical reality of Rithmm’s modeling, which utilizes machine learning to ingest billions of paid data points rather than relying on "fugazi" AI or basic scraping. Why she left the world of Division I coaching, citing the "parochial" nature of campus life and a gut feeling that she needed to stretch herself beyond the university bubble. The "serendipitous" origin story of Rithmm, including a chance meeting at a birthday party bar that turned a predictive modeling class project into a business. What separates Rithmm from the competition, specifically its "intelligence layer" that allows users to build, back-test, and copy successful models via a community leaderboard. The dynamic nature of the model, which must constantly recompute as lines move, players are announced out, and odds shift in real-time. Navigating the ethics of collegiate sports, including why Rithmm refuses to offer player props on college athletes and Megan’s concerns regarding the risks to students. New product innovations like "Scout," a proprietary AI layer designed to allow bettors to query complex models through voice and text to find the "why" behind a pick. The reality of the startup grind, from sharing desks in garden-level offices to raising over $8 million in funding to scale the platform.   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    34 min
4.6
out of 5
56 Ratings

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A podcast covering the sports betting industry from the perspective of bettors, operators, and industry insiders. Hosted by Jeff Edelstein, Senior Analyst at InGame.com.

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