Business of Betting Podcast

Business of Betting Podcast

A podcast covering the sports betting industry from the perspective of bettors, operators, and industry insiders. Hosted by Jeff Edelstein, Senior Analyst at InGame.com.

  1. 5h ago

    E302 - Zack Panos from 4Casters

    On Episode 302 of the Business of Betting podcast, Jeff Edelstein is joined by Zack Panos, founder of 4Casters, for a deep dive into the future of prediction markets, peer-to-peer betting, and the evolving sports betting ecosystem.  Hear them discuss: Zack's journey from learning poker and risk management as a child to founding 4Casters and building a peer-to-peer betting exchange. Why prediction markets have gained momentum, how they differ from traditional sportsbooks, and why California and Texas have become key battlegrounds for their growth. The future of liquidity, market makers, pricing, and why Zack believes betting odds will eventually become a commodity across platforms. Whether prediction markets are here to stay, the regulatory challenges ahead, and why Zack expects sportsbooks and prediction markets to ultimately converge into a similar user experience. How betting and prediction markets encourage probabilistic thinking, improve decision-making, and could reshape how people consume news and information. The growing "gamblification" of society, the impact of AI on entertainment and gambling, and why gambling education should become a much bigger priority. Why Zack believes the industry's biggest opportunity lies in creating customer-friendly products that emphasize long-term engagement over maximizing player losses. 4Casters' long-term vision, lessons learned from fundraising, and Zack's strategy for building a sustainable betting business designed for the next generation of sports bettors   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    E302 - Zack Panos from 4Casters
  2. Jul 23

    E301 - Adam Small from Third Planet Media

    On Episode 301 of the Business of Betting podcast, the tables are turned as Third Planet CEO Adam Small takes over hosting duties to interview Jeff Edelstein. Together, they reflect on the evolution of the U.S. sports betting industry since PASPA, debate prediction markets, discuss the future of gambling regulation, and explore why the industry's biggest challenges may still lie ahead. Hear them discuss: The rise and growing pains of the regulated U.S. sports betting market since PASPA was repealed Why higher tax rates, betting limits, and shifting regulation have changed the industry's outlook Looking back at the "gold rush" era of sports betting and whether those opportunities still exist Why community remains one of sports betting's biggest untapped opportunities, from live events to social experiences How DFS paved the way for products like PrizePicks, Kalshi, and prediction markets The ongoing debate over what qualifies as gambling versus financial trading Whether prediction markets can justify their soaring valuations and challenge established sportsbooks Why DraftKings, FanDuel, and other incumbents may still be best positioned to dominate if prediction markets expand The growing concern around gambling's influence on younger audiences and the need for gambling education in schools Jeff's predictions for where sports betting, prediction markets, and the broader gambling industry are headed over the next decade   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    E301 - Adam Small from Third Planet Media
  3. Jul 16

    E300 - Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports

    On Episode 300 of the Business of Betting podcast, Jeff Edelstein is joined by Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy for a candid conversation covering the rise of Barstool, the ESPN Bet partnership, gambling regulation, cancel culture, media, politics, philanthropy, and what the future might hold, including a possible run for public office. Hear them discuss: Why the Barstool Sportsbook partnership ultimately failed, what went wrong with ESPN Bet, and how strict regulatory oversight limited Barstool's ability to market authentically. Dave's approach to building Barstool's culture, creating viral content, and empowering talent behind brands like Pardon My Take, Call Her Daddy, and The Pat McAfee Show. The origin of the iconic One Bite Pizza Reviews and how a simple office debate turned into one of Barstool's biggest brands. The story behind The Barstool Fund, raising over $50 million to help hundreds of small businesses survive the COVID-19 shutdowns. How Dave navigates controversy, media criticism, cancel culture, and where he draws the line between accountability and online outrage. Dave's views on politics, why he believes more outsiders should enter public service, and whether a future political campaign is truly on the table. His perspective on antisemitism, social media polarization, and why he has become more outspoken in recent years. The business lessons behind Barstool's growth, why authenticity beats traditional media, and how Dave evaluates creative talent. Dave's passion for sports betting, horse racing, investing, and why he still loves wagering despite decades in the industry. What's next for Dave Portnoy—from Barstool's future to horse racing ambitions, and why he believes his biggest challenge may still be ahead.   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

  4. Jun 25

    E297 - Peter Hammon

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with Peter Hammon, gaming attorney and consultant at Vela Wood, to discuss prediction markets, exchange wagering, regulatory risk, and the legal battles that could shape the future of sports betting in America.    Hear them discuss: Why prediction markets have created a modern-day gold rush for operators, market makers, and investors looking to capitalize on a rapidly evolving opportunity The growing role of market makers and liquidity providers operating across sportsbooks, prediction markets, and international trading platforms How companies like Kalshi, Polymarket, Fanatics, Novig, and Sporttrade are positioning themselves for a future where prediction markets and sports betting increasingly overlap The legal and regulatory risks facing businesses operating across both state-regulated sportsbooks and federally regulated prediction markets Whether prediction markets have become too big to fail and why Peter believes the ultimate question centers on state versus federal authority over sports wagering Why Kalshi is emphasizing non-sports markets as it prepares for future legal and regulatory challenges The similarities between prediction markets, exchange wagering, poker, and peer-to-peer betting models, and why many of these concepts have existed for years under different names Peter’s journey into gaming law, from launching the UCLA Gaming Law Association to joining Smarkets and helping shape the early exchange wagering movement in the United States How Daily Fantasy Sports helped pave the way for PASPA’s repeal and fundamentally changed the trajectory of legal sports betting in America California’s ongoing sports betting stalemate, the leverage prediction markets may be giving tribal operators, and why the state's unique geography continues to shape the debate   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    E297 - Peter Hammon
  5. Jun 18

    E296 - Chris Dierkes from Novig

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with Chris Dierkes, Head of Trading at Novig, to discuss exchange-based betting, prediction markets, bankroll management, and the future of the sports betting industry.    Hear them discuss: Why Chris believes betting exchanges provide better value for consumers through tighter pricing, lower fees, and increased flexibility The differences between traditional sportsbook cash-out features and exchange trading, and why bettors should understand the hidden costs involved Whether exchanges are actually safer and more consumer-friendly than sportsbooks despite the learning curve for new users Novig’s strategy for competing with prediction market leaders like Kalshi and Polymarket in an increasingly crowded marketplace The challenge of convincing recreational bettors to prioritize price and value over promotions, bonuses, and brand familiarity How Chris uses the Kelly Criterion to manage risk and determine position sizing when betting with significant edges The thought process behind placing million-dollar wagers and why bankroll management matters more than headline bet sizes Lessons learned from building a betting operation, scaling a bankroll, and overcoming the limitations imposed by traditional sportsbooks The regulatory uncertainty surrounding prediction markets and how potential Supreme Court involvement could shape the industry's future Why Chris chose to move from professional betting into exchange operations, and what he sees as the biggest opportunities ahead for market-based wagering   ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    E296 - Chris Dierkes from Novig
  6. Jun 11

    E295 - David Woodley from SpeedLabs

    On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jeff Edelstein sits down with David Woodley, sports betting entrepreneur, investor, and advisor to companies including Edge Markets and Speed Labs, to share his perspective on prediction markets, gambling’s place in society, and the startups building the next generation of betting products.   Hear them discuss: Why gambling should be viewed more like alcohol, something most people can enjoy responsibly rather than through an all-or-nothing lens The rise of prediction markets, the regulatory battles surrounding them, and why younger founders are reshaping the industry David’s work with Edge Markets and how the company is reducing payment friction for bettors, sportsbooks, and prediction market traders The evolution of Speed Labs from a survivor pool game into a real-time prediction market platform powered by proprietary micro-market technology Why David believes betting “pick services” are often overrated, while niche businesses focused on solving one problem exceptionally well remain underrated The parallels between gambling, entrepreneurship, collectibles, investing, and other forms of risk-taking How gambling education could benefit from the same practical approach used for alcohol and financial literacy The opportunities and challenges facing startups building products around prediction markets and sports gaming Lessons learned from building, investing in, and advising companies across the betting ecosystem A lighthearted discussion on sports fandom, heartbreak, and why Vikings and Mets fans share a special bond     ⚡️ Follow BoB on Twitter/X ⚡️ Watch BoB on Youtube ⚡️ Apply to be a guest here

    E295 - David Woodley from SpeedLabs
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A podcast covering the sports betting industry from the perspective of bettors, operators, and industry insiders. Hosted by Jeff Edelstein, Senior Analyst at InGame.com.