On the Brink with Andi Simon

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On The Brink is a podcast where the goal is to help you better "see, feel and think" about your business, your job, your personal life and your purpose. There will be great interviews and conversations with people who are deeply involved in change—consultants, change agents, managers transforming their teams, entrepreneurs just starting out and CEOs running well-established companies.

  1. 3D AGO

    Why Curiosity Is the Superpower of the Future

    Summary: this episode of On the Brink, Andi Simon speaks with Alastair Frost about what it truly means to be future ready in a fast-changing world. Together, they explore how curiosity—asking "why" and "what if" like a child—opens the door to new possibilities, and how reclaiming our natural creativity helps individuals and organizations move beyond comfort and complacency. Rather than trying to predict the future, Frost encourages leaders to focus on what is inevitable and to build the mindset and habits that keep them adaptable, relevant, and ready for whatever comes next.   On On the Brink with Andi Simon, we often explore one central question: how do you keep from getting stuck or stalled in a world that refuses to stand still? In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Allister Frost, a former Microsoft executive turned global keynote speaker and author of Ready Already. Alastair brings a refreshing and deeply practical perspective on what it means to be "future ready" in a time when change feels constant, overwhelming, and unpredictable. As an anthropologist, I often remind audiences that humans have always been innovators. When our ancestors harnessed fire, they transformed not only how they ate but how their brains evolved. We are, by nature, adaptive and creative. Yet today, many leaders and organizations behave as if stability is the goal and change is the threat. Allister challenges that thinking. Change Is Not the Enemy—Complacency Is One of the most powerful ideas in our conversation is this: we are not resistant to change because we dislike it. In fact, as a species, we thrive on it. The problem is not change itself—it's comfort. Allister contrasts two corporate mindsets from his career. In one company, the mantra was, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." At Microsoft, the philosophy was closer to: "If it works today, it's already becoming obsolete." That shift—from preservation to proactive reinvention—is at the heart of a future-ready mindset. But here's the nuance: Alastair doesn't ask leaders to predict the future. Instead, he invites them to prepare for what is inevitable. The Power of "Inevitable" Rather than speculating about what the world might look like in 20 years, Alastair suggests focusing on what is almost certain to happen in the near term. Budgets will shift. Technologies will evolve. Customers will change their expectations. Systems that feel new today will eventually become outdated. Leadership will turn over. Markets will fluctuate. If these shifts are inevitable, then the question becomes: are you ready already? This approach feels practical and empowering. It pulls futurism out of the abstract and places it squarely in your hands. The Frost Framework: A Practical Process for Growth Allister has developed what many call the "Frost Framework," a simple but powerful growth cycle that individuals and organizations can use to stay adaptable. At its core, the process begins with identifying what is inevitable and choosing one area to explore. But the real magic happens in what he calls three human "superpowers"—abilities that artificial intelligence cannot replicate at the same depth: Open: Approach your work with childlike curiosity. Ask "Why?" as if you are five years old. Why do we hold this meeting? Why do we serve customers this way? Why does this process exist at all? Curiosity cracks open possibility. Surprise: Give yourself permission to imagine bold, even ridiculous ideas. Most innovations begin as ideas that seem impractical. Let your thinking go big before reality trims it down. Tell: Courageously share your ideas in a way that invites collaboration. Replace "No, that won't work" with "Yes, and…" That simple shift can transform defensive conversations into generative ones. What I particularly appreciate is that this process is personal. It's not about waiting for the CEO to hand down the strategy. It's about each individual reconnecting with their own purpose and creativity. Humility: The Leader's First Step For senior leaders, Allister emphasizes humility. The higher you rise, the easier it is to believe you must have all the answers. In reality, the opposite is true. The future is too complex for any one person to control. A future-ready leader shifts from being a "know-it-all" to being a "learn-it-all." That humility not only relieves pressure—it unlocks collective intelligence across the organization. As I often say, humans are copycats. If leaders model curiosity, openness, and experimentation, others will follow. Reclaiming Your Creative Mind One of the most striking moments in our conversation was when Alastair described how people physically shrink when he mentions creativity. "I'm not creative," they say. But if you can daydream, you are creative. Creativity isn't confined to a whiteboard in a dark conference room. It happens on morning walks, in the quiet moments between sleep and waking, in conversations where someone asks "What if?" In fact, one of my favorite stories from our discussion involved a sales leader who realized that every time a client asked "What if?" he had ignored it. Yet that's where the opportunity lived. He returned home and built an entirely new "What If" sales process. That's the shift—from defending the status quo to exploring possibility. Ready Already In a time when so many feel overwhelmed by uncertainty, this episode is a reminder that you do not need to predict the future. You need to prepare your mindset. Be curious. Focus on what is inevitable. Use your uniquely human superpowers. Lead with humility. Ask "What if?" The times are changing. But they always have. The question is not whether change will come. The question is: are you ready already? For more information about Allister Frost: Allister's profile linkedin.com/in/allisterspeaks Website allisterspeaks.com (Personal) Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.net Email: info@simonassociates.net Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Watch for our new book, Rethink Retirement: It's Not The End--It's the Beginning of What's Next. Due out Spring 2026. Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk!

    37 min

  2. JAN 30

    Building Emotional Intelligence in an Age of AI

    What Sets Humans Apart? Key lessons from my conversation with Dr. Robin Hills .As artificial intelligence accelerates and reshapes how we work, learn, and communicate, one question keeps resurfacing: What remains uniquely human? That was at the heart of my recent On the Brink conversation with Dr. Robin Hills, a business psychologist and one of the world's leading voices on emotional intelligence. Our discussion offered both reassurance and challenge—especially for leaders navigating rapid change, generational shifts, and technology-driven uncertainty. Here are the key lessons that stood out. 1. Emotional intelligence is not "soft"—it is foundational Emotional intelligence (EI) is often mislabeled as a soft skill. In reality, it is a core operating system for effective leadership, collaboration, and decision-making. As Robin explained, EI is about being smart with your feelings—integrating emotion and cognition to respond thoughtfully rather than react impulsively. This matters because emotions are not optional. They are physiological and psychological responses to our environment. The choice is not whether emotions will influence us, but whether we will learn to work with them skillfully. 2. Self-regulation is becoming a critical leadership skill One of the most striking themes was self-regulation—our ability to pause, choose, and respond intentionally. In a world of constant notifications, endless information, and emotional triggers, self-regulation is increasingly difficult and increasingly essential. Robin highlighted how our attachment to devices can undermine emotional awareness, presence, and learning. When leaders (and teams) cannot disengage long enough to listen, reflect, or engage meaningfully, they lose both insight and connection. Mastering technology rather than being mastered by it is now part of emotional intelligence. 3. Emotional intelligence must be learned—and relearned We often assume people "pick up" emotional skills naturally. Yet many do not. Education systems may introduce emotional awareness early, but rarely sustain it through adolescence, higher education, or professional life. The pandemic amplified this gap. Younger generations lost critical years of social learning, while adults themselves were stretched emotionally. Rather than blaming or labeling behaviors, the opportunity now is to rebuild emotional skills deliberately—in schools, workplaces, and leadership development programs. 4. AI will not replace what makes us human Despite growing fears about artificial intelligence, Robin was clear: AI does not have emotions, empathy, purpose, or meaning. It cannot truly collaborate, lead, or innovate in the human sense. What AI can do is free us from routine tasks—making our emotional and relational capabilities even more valuable. Creativity, empathy, ethical judgment, perspective-taking, and meaning-making are not threatened by AI; they are highlighted by it. The more technology advances, the more human skills matter. 5. Emotional intelligence gives us choice Perhaps the most powerful insight was this: emotional intelligence gives us choice. Choice in how we respond under pressure. Choice in how we communicate across differences. Choice in how we turn uncertainty into opportunity rather than fear. We will not get it right every time. As Robin noted, if you respond well eight times out of ten, you are doing well. The work is learning from the other two—without self-criticism, and with curiosity. A final reflection As an anthropologist, I see emotional intelligence as part of how humans adapt. Our brains may resist change, but our capacity to learn, empathize, and create meaning has allowed us to thrive across millennia. In a world reshaped by AI, emotional intelligence is not a "nice to have." It is how we remain human, relevant, and resilient—at work and in life. If this conversation sparked new ways of seeing, feeling, or thinking, that is exactly the point. Watch our podcast interview here. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk!   From Observation to Innovation, Andi SImon, PhD CEO | Corporate Anthropologist | Author Simonassociates.net Info@simonassociates.net @simonandi LinkedIn

    44 min

  3. JAN 17

    Todd Nilson: Building Community That Actually Works (Online, Offline, and In Between)

    Humans need connection—not as a luxury, but as a foundation for thriving. Yet, in our hyper-connected world, loneliness persists. On this episode of On the Brink, I sat down with Todd Nilson, a community strategist with 25 years of experience in digital transformation and marketing for brands like Activision, Facebook, and SAP, to unpack what real community means and how to build it with intention. Who is Todd Nilson? Todd's journey began in journalism, driven by an authentic curiosity about people and their stories. That passion evolved into a commitment to "building a bigger family"—creating spaces where trust and belonging are central. He's clear: community isn't a "soft" strategy; it's essential for individual and organizational wellbeing. We explored the difference between networks and communities. Social platforms may connect thousands, but true communities are intimate, purposeful, and safe. As Todd put it, a network is like a busy freeway—you can make friends, but it's not where you belong. Real communities are built in "cozy warrens": discussion forums, private groups, and member spaces that foster trust and meaningful exchange. The technology for online communities is abundant, but Todd warns: tools alone don't build belonging. Trust is foundational. He outlined three layers of safety—trustworthy platforms, credible conveners, and benevolent members—enabling honest sharing and engagement. He shared the example of Truth Initiative, whose online community helps people quit smoking and vaping. There, anonymity and trust turn participation into a true "return on life." Watch Todd Nilson on Youtube Understanding Community in a Time of AI Organizations and associations often struggle to sustain engagement beyond annual events. Todd believes communities should keep people connected to their mission year-round, deepen commitment, and serve as pipelines for volunteers or future staff. However, he cautions against focusing solely on technology while neglecting the ongoing stewardship that makes communities thrive. People—not platforms—build lasting connections. Community success is a program, not a project. You can't just launch a platform and expect results. Todd stresses the importance of having a dedicated human facilitator—more concierge than manager—who welcomes, connects, and guides members. While AI can help with moderation, it can't replace human warmth or judgment. We also discussed the importance of strategic clarity: before asking for proof of ROI, organizations must define their community's purpose. What are the desired outcomes—reduced costs, improved retention, innovation? Community design must align with both organizational goals and member needs, even when those priorities differ. Hybrid models work best. Online and offline communities reinforce each other, extending the sense of belonging and engagement. Tools like the Sense of Community Index 2 can help organizations measure how well their community fosters connection and contribution. Culturally, we're faced with an "always open buffet" of groups, but meaningful community requires intentional participation, not just passive consumption. We must choose where to invest our attention, seeking out spaces that truly feed us personally and professionally. Big Ideas for Fast-Changing Times Todd left us with two takeaways: First, plan for purpose—define who your community is for, why it exists, and the unique value it offers. Second, embrace emergent design—start small, let the community evolve, and focus on trust and gradual growth rather than a massive launch. Ultimately, community is a driver of wellbeing—crucial not only at work but also in life's transitions, such as retirement. Whether you're building community for your organization or your next chapter, remember: networks aren't belonging, and community doesn't happen by accident. Purpose, trust, and stewardship make it real. Thanks for tuning in, and thank you to Todd Nelson for sharing such valuable insights. Want to keep the conversation going? Learn more about Todd Nelson's work in community strategy, and let us know what community means to you. From Observation to Innovation, Andi Simon, PhD CEO | Corporate Anthropologist |  Award-winning Author Simonassociates.net andisimon.com Info@simonassociates.net LinkedIn

    45 min

  4. JAN 15

    In the Age of AI, Your Name Is Your Most Valuable Asset

    As artificial intelligence accelerates, many leaders, founders, and professionals are quietly asking the same question: Where do I still matter? If machines can write, analyze, summarize, and even "sound" human, what is left that cannot be automated? In this episode of On the Brink, I sat down with branding strategist and neuroscientist-turned-entrepreneur Carey James, co-founder of Brand Alchemy, to explore why a personal brand—not technology—is becoming the defining asset of the future. What emerged was a powerful reframing of branding—not as self-promotion, but as survival. Branding Isn't About Visibility—It's About Trust Carey's journey began in neuroscience labs and academic research, where brilliant minds often remain invisible. In these labs, the work mattered deeply, yet few people beyond their field ever heard about it. That disconnect led him to a simple realization: impact doesn't scale unless people know who you are. Branding, in Carey's view, is not about being flashy or loud. It is about becoming trustable at scale. Human beings evolved to live in tribes. We trusted the hunter, the healer, the builder—not because of logos or résumés, but because we knew who they were. That same ancient wiring still governs modern decision-making. Whether we are choosing a consultant, an executive hire, a keynote speaker, or a company to invest in, the first question is rarely "Is this organization impressive?" It is almost always: Do I trust this person? Your Name Is the Asset—Not the Logo One of Carey's most important insights is deceptively simple: your personal name is likely the most valuable asset you will ever own. Companies come and go. Products evolve. Roles change. But trust attached to your name transfers from project to project. This is why serial entrepreneurs can fail, pivot, and succeed again—while others disappear after one setback. In the age of AI, this becomes even more critical. You will not always be the smartest voice in the room. Algorithms already out-compute us. What they cannot replicate, however, is your lived experience, judgment, pattern recognition, and imperfections. Those human elements—your way of thinking, questioning, connecting ideas—are what create differentiation. The "Label on the Bottle" Problem Most people struggle to articulate their own brand because they are trapped inside it. Carey calls this the label-on-the-bottle syndrome: when you are inside the bottle, you cannot see the label. The solution is not more introspection—it is perspective. Carey encourages leaders to do what great organizations already do through 360-degree reviews: ask others how they experience you. Patterns emerge quickly. Strengths, quirks, values, and stories surface that feel obvious to everyone else—but invisible to you. This external clarity becomes the foundation of an authentic brand, not a manufactured one. Watch our podcast with Carey James here. Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.net Email: info@simonassociates.net Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Watch for our new book, Rethink Retirement: It's Not The End--It's the Beginning of What's Next. Due out Spring 2026. Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk!

    43 min

  5. JAN 5

    Oscar Barrera — How Business Anthropology Helped A Sourdough Company Grow

    What if the fastest route to meaningful growth isn't about launching another ad campaign, hiring more salespeople, or optimizing your funnel? What if the real accelerator is simply listening—really listening—to what's already happening around you? In this episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Oscar Barrera, PhD—a brilliant corporate anthropologist and innovation strategist based in Mexico. Oscar and I share a core conviction: anthropology isn't just something you do; it's a way of seeing the world. It allows leaders to notice subtle patterns—those taking shape in their markets, inside their own companies, and in the everyday lives of their customers—even when the clues are hiding in plain sight. Oscar's work drives home a powerful point: the real obstacles to growth are often hidden. Not because they're imaginary, but because we haven't been trained to spot them. Meet Dr. Oscar Barrera: An Anthropologist Forging His Own Path Oscar's journey is as unconventional as it is inspiring. He earned his doctorate in social and cultural anthropology at the University of Washington, with years of fieldwork in Guatemala's highlands. But like so many academics, he realized that the expected career path—university teaching—wasn't really available. So Oscar got creative. He returned home to Mexico and started his own consulting practice from the ground up. He learned the language of business by reading voraciously, listening intently, and immersing himself in the entrepreneurial world—joining business groups, building relationships, and cultivating a brand that helped business leaders understand how anthropology could transform what they do. Through his firm, Antropologia Corporativa, Oscar helps organizations unlock deep understanding about their customers, employees, and markets—then turn those insights into human-centered strategies for growth and innovation. He also hosts a fantastic podcast called Nuevas Posibilidades ("New Possibilities"), which explores innovation, anthropology, and the future of work. A Real-World Case: Sourdough in a Sweet Bread Nation Oscar shared a wonderful story that brings anthropology to life. A bakery owner in Mexico was crafting sourdough bread: wholesome, preservative-free, and free of additives. But he was up against a market where bread is usually sweet, steeped in tradition, and sold cheaply. Here's the twist: the bakery wasn't struggling with demand. Instead, something unexpected was happening—distributors (mostly women) were approaching the bakery on their own, asking if they could resell the bread in their hometowns. The owner's question wasn't theoretical—it was urgent: Who are these women, and how can I grow this kind of distribution model intentionally? As he put it, he wanted "the formula." Why Anthropology Was Essential Oscar's first instinct was to do what anthropologists do best: ethnography. Go to the site, observe, listen, and understand the full context. But travel simply wasn't possible. So he adapted, because good anthropology is all about flexibility. He used remote interviews—speaking with distributors and customers over the phone and online. And what he learned should be a wake-up call for every leader: People will tell you what matters to them—if you listen with the right kind of attention. Oscar was surprised that sometimes meeting online made people more comfortable. It was safe, structured, and time-limited—there was no lingering vulnerability once the conversation ended. Watch our Podcast on YouTube The Discovery: A Purpose-Driven Sales Network The bakery owner assumed his distributors were motivated by money. Oscar found something far richer. These women were selling bread not just for income, but because they: Had personal or family health concerns Wanted to support and uplift their communities Believed deeply in natural, preservative-free foods Had stories that connected them emotionally to the product They weren't just pushing a product—they were sharing a solution and part of their own identities. They were savvy, too, introducing the bread at workplaces, gyms, and local events. Tasting led to trust—and more sales. This was no "features and benefits" transaction. This bread was an experience—one that resonated with values and stories. Five Key Ingredients for Scalable Growth Oscar translated these insights into actionable steps. He identified five elements that would determine whether the bakery's model could truly scale: Shared values and philosophy: The top distributors believed in a mission: boosting health and helping people, not just selling bread. Time and logistics: Without preservatives and in a hot climate, bread spoiled quickly. Delivery schedules and pickups became hidden bottlenecks. Packaging matters: Flimsy boxes led to crushed loaves—hurting both trust and credibility. Social selling support: Distributors used WhatsApp and Facebook, but needed better tools and content. The company needed to provide easily shareable visuals and educational materials. Customer experience and sampling: People didn't buy from a description—they bought after tasting. Real-life sampling was the engine of growth. What I love here is that Oscar didn't need a formal operations report to uncover these constraints. He surfaced them by deeply listening to lived experience—by drawing out stories. Bigger Than Bread: How Meaning Moves Markets One of the most profound insights was symbolic. Sourdough isn't "traditional Mexican bread." Yet, through the personal stories of these women, it became a bridge: a way to enjoy bread as part of daily life, to choose health without abandoning cultural identity, and to stay connected to tradition while eating differently. That's not just good marketing—it's anthropology in action. Lessons for Leaders Everywhere Oscar summed it up beautifully: Success often hides in plain sight, in details we overlook. Anthropology equips leaders and companies to see what's invisible and hear what's unsaid. True innovation doesn't always mean inventing something totally new—it often means listening to what your customers are already telling you. So here's my bottom line: If you're chasing growth, don't just ask, "How do we sell more?" Instead, ask, "What's actually happening in the lives of the people we want to serve that we haven't noticed yet?" When you listen for those answers, real transformation can begin. Connect with Oscar Barrera, PhD If you'd like to connect with Oscar, you can find him on LinkedIn, Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.net Email: info@simonassociates.net Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Watch for our new book, Rethink Retirement: It's Not The End--It's the Beginning of What's Next. Due out Spring 2026. Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk!

    46 min

  6. 12/07/2025

    Dr. Deborah Clary on Building a Culture of Curiosity at Work

    "Curiosity isn't a soft skill. It's a performance capability—and organizations are paying the price for ignoring it." Summary What if the most powerful leadership capability isn't having the right answers—but asking better questions? In this On the Brink with Andi Simon episode, Dr. Deborah Clary, author of The Curiosity Curve, explains why curiosity is a measurable driver of performance, engagement, and innovation—and how leaders can deliberately rebuild it to create stronger, more human-centered cultures. Why Curiosity May Be the Missing Link in Leadership and Culture Change In this episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Deborah Clary, author of The Curiosity Curve and a purpose-driven leader whose work sits at the intersection of leadership development, organizational culture, and performance. What emerged from our conversation was both refreshing and deeply needed: a reminder that curiosity—something many leaders unintentionally abandon as they rise—may be the very capability organizations need most right now . Deborah's journey is anything but linear. Straight out of business school, she began her career not in a corporate office but as a route driver for Frito-Lay in Detroit—wearing a uniform, managing a route, and learning leadership from the inside out. That truck, she says, became her classroom. Over the next four decades, Deborah moved through senior roles at Coca-Cola, Jack Daniel's, and Humana, eventually earning a PhD focused on leadership development and organizational design. Yet it was her growing fascination with human behavior—what makes leaders effective and cultures thrive—that ultimately shaped her work today . What Is Curiosity—Really? Deborah defines curiosity simply but powerfully: being genuinely interested in yourself, in others, and in the situation at hand. It's not about having the right answers. It's about asking better questions—and staying open long enough to explore them. That distinction matters, especially in organizations where leaders often believe their role is to know, decide, and direct. As Deborah shared, many leaders become "incurious" not because they lack interest, but because time pressures, performance demands, and past success reinforce the idea that they must always have the answer. Over time, curiosity is treated like a luxury—when in fact, research shows it is a driver of performance . The Engagement Crisis—and Why Leaders Matter More Than Ever One of the most striking parts of our conversation focused on employee disengagement. Gallup data shows engagement levels at historic lows, with millennials—now a critical segment of the leadership pipeline—showing especially high levels of disengagement. When Deborah and her research team conducted focus groups, they found a consistent theme: "My leader doesn't know me—and doesn't seem to care to know me." This wasn't about surface-level recognition or personal details. Employees wanted leaders to be curious about their ideas, their aspirations, and how they could contribute meaningfully. In other words, they wanted leaders who asked thoughtful questions instead of simply providing directives. Curiosity, Measured—and Made Actionable What makes Deborah's work especially compelling is that curiosity isn't treated as a vague personality trait. Through a validated assessment, she measures curiosity across four dimensions: Exploration Openness to new ideas Inspirational creativity Focused engagement In one executive team she worked with, the results revealed a powerful—and uncomfortable—truth. While most executives scored high in curiosity, the CEO did not. The organization was struggling with innovation, market share, and retention. When the data was shared openly, the CEO recognized that his resistance—not the team—was the bottleneck. His willingness to acknowledge this became a breakthrough moment for the organization . That story underscores a central theme of the episode: leaders shape culture not by intention alone, but by how open—or closed—they are to curiosity. Watch our podcast on YouTube. From Short-Term Answers to Long-Term Leadership Curious leadership, Deborah explained, is about playing the long game. The short game is giving answers. The long game is exploring possibilities, testing ideas, and learning from outcomes—even when they fail. This requires psychological safety. Leaders must normalize statements like, "I don't know—let's explore this together."When leaders model curiosity, they give others permission to think, experiment, and grow. Over time, this builds confidence, ownership, and engagement across the organization . Why This Matters Now? In fast-changing markets, yesterday's solutions rarely solve tomorrow's problems. Yet many organizations still rely on outdated assumptions, rigid hierarchies, and fear of failure. As an anthropologist, I see this pattern often: cultures resist change even when change is essential. Curiosity interrupts that pattern. It helps leaders see what they've been missing, hear voices that have been quiet, and test new ways forward. In Deborah's words, curiosity is contagious—and learnable. It can be rebuilt, one question at a time. If you're a leader navigating uncertainty, disengaged teams, or stalled innovation, this conversation offers both insight and hope. You don't need all the answers. But you do need the courage to ask better questions. And that may be exactly what helps you—and your organization—get off the brink. For more about Debra Clary, check out her website and LinkedIn Page. Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.net Email: info@simonassociates.net Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk! From Observation to Innovation, Andi Simon, PhD CEO | Corporate Anthropologist | Author Simonassociates.net Info@simonassociates.net @simonandi LinkedIn

    32 min

  7. 11/17/2025

    Finding Joy, Choice, and Control: A Conversation with Nicki Keohohou

    "People aren't broken," she told me. "Our job is not to fix them. It's to hold them whole and complete." On this episode of On the Brink, I had the privilege of speaking with a remarkable woman whose life journey embodies resilience, reinvention, and the profound power of choosing joy. Nicki Keohohou—bestselling author, award-winning entrepreneur, global speaker, and founder of Coach School—joined me from her home in Hawaii to reflect on the experiences that shaped her, the wisdom she teaches, and the mindset shifts we all need in today's uncertain world. Nicki's path wasn't linear. She began as a teacher helping children build self-esteem and confidence. She later moved into her family's business, then into the world of direct selling, where she discovered her love for helping people grow. That passion evolved into founding the Direct Selling Women's Alliance and ultimately creating Coach School—programs that train leaders, educators, executives, and couples to coach through empathy, inquiry, and empowerment rather than advice-giving. What unifies Nicki's story is a belief that has guided her since childhood: life is abundant, people are capable, and every moment contains a choice. Watch our Podcast here on YouTube: The Power of Coaching: Asking Instead of Telling Nicki admits she wasn't a natural coach at first. Like many leaders, she began by telling people what to do. But she soon realized that the most powerful breakthroughs happen when people discover their own answers. She teaches coaching not just to executives, but to educators, medical professionals, sales teams—and even couples—because the skill of asking empowering questions transforms how people think, communicate, and relate. Her philosophy is simple: When people find their own solutions, they own them. And when they own them, they act. Why We're All Struggling Right Now Nicki works around the world, and she sees what many of us feel: people are more anxious, overwhelmed, and uncertain than ever. The economy, politics, global tensions, and constant disruption amplify our sense of helplessness. Her response? A model she teaches called "the bagel." The outer ring—the disempowerment zone—contains everything we cannot control (other people's opinions, world events, the economy, traffic, the past). The center—the empowerment zone—holds what we can control (our thoughts, our choices, our words, our actions, the meaning we assign to events). Most people live on the outer ring. Nicki helps them move to the center. How to Shift Your Mindset (Even in Hard Times) Many of Nicki's insights come from deeply personal experiences—including a devastating fall in Dubai that led to multiple surgeries, months of rehabilitation, and time spent in a nursing home. Instead of asking "Why me?" she asked: "What can I do with this situation?" She coached the staff. She uplifted patients. She even unknowingly taught a woman through the wall who listened to every class and filled an entire notebook with lessons. Her message is clear: You may not choose what happens to you, but you always choose how you respond. Key Takeaways from Nicki Keohohou 1. Happiness is a choice—and a practice. You can always look for what's wrong or what's right. Your mind will believe whichever story you tell it. 2. What you feed your mind at night shapes your next day. Avoid violent TV, tense news, or negative scrolling before bed. Instead ask: What is the best thing that happened today? What am I grateful for? 3. Self-coaching questions can instantly shift your emotional state. Try: How would I prefer to feel right now? What's the opposite of this thought? What do I actually have control over in this moment? 4. Joy compounds when shared. A smile, a kind comment, or a small gesture changes not just someone else's day—it elevates your own. 5. Simplicity reduces stress. Choose calm over drama. Choose presence over pressure. Choose perspective over frustration. Actionable Advice You Can Use Today 1. Start your morning with intention. Ask: What am I excited about today? Whose life can I make better today? 2. Create an accomplishment list—not a to-do list. Shift from obligation to opportunity. 3. Practice the "bagel model." Whenever stress rises, pause and ask: Is this in the empowerment zone? Or the disempowerment zone? If you can't control it—redirect your energy. 4. Adopt the "rain mindset." Instead of "Ugh, it's raining," try: "The rain is feeding my flowers." Reframe, and your brain will follow. 5. Give gratitude away freely. Say thank you. Compliment someone. Share something small. Science tells us that gratitude boosts the giver's happiness even more than the receiver's. Final Thoughts Nicki's story is a radiant reminder that your reality is shaped by the narrative you choose. You can choose joy. You can choose possibility. You can choose to smile at strangers and uplift the people around you. And you can choose to rewrite your story—every morning and every night. As she told me, "Bring joy and give joy. It doesn't cost anything." If you'd like to learn more or reach Nicki directly, you can find her at: Nicki@coachschool.com or call (800) 856-1662 (Hawaii time!). Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.net Email: info@simonassociates.net Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk!

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  8. 11/11/2025

    Rethinking Leadership: How to Pivot, Disrupt, and Transform with Marcia Daszko

    The first step to transformation is to stop doing what no longer works." – Marcia Daszko On this episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, I sat down with Marcia Daszko, a visionary leadership consultant and author of Pivot, Disrupt, Transform: How Leaders Beat the Odds and Survive. Marcia's journey—from being "excruciatingly shy" to mentoring leaders at Apple, Boeing, and the U.S. Navy—reveals a rare combination of courage, curiosity, and clarity. Her lessons, rooted in the teachings of Dr. W. Edwards Deming, challenge leaders to abandon outdated management practices and embrace a deeper, systems-based way of thinking. From Management Fads to Meaningful Leadership Marcia began her career in marketing before being mentored by Dr. Perry Gluckman, a close associate of Dr. Deming, who revolutionized management thinking through systems theory and continuous improvement. What she learned was not just what to do, but how to think. Too often, organizations chase the latest management fad—Six Sigma, Lean, "best practices"—without understanding the systems that create real success. Marcia calls these "tragedies" because they add complexity without meaning. She estimates that 50 to 80 percent of organizational waste comes from such misguided efforts. Her process begins with a bold question: "What do we need to stop doing?" Once leaders remove what's not working, they can open the flow of communication, creativity, and collaboration—what Marcia calls the "system of profound knowledge." When systems make sense, people thrive. Watch the podcast here: Learning to See Differently Like many of my guests, Marcia helps organizations "see, feel, and think" in new ways. She starts by asking questions that uncover hidden assumptions and systemic barriers. Employees usually know what's wrong, she says, but no one listens. When she leads workshops, she doesn't rely on PowerPoint slides. Instead, she creates experiences—conversations, simulations, and reflections—that shift perspectives. "I don't get resistance," she explains, "because the exercises take care of that." It's an anthropologist's insight wrapped in a strategist's toolkit: people don't change because they're told to—they change because they experience a new way of being together. The Strategic Compass for an Uncertain Future In today's world of disruption, Marcia argues that leaders don't need a roadmap—they need a compass. The future can't be predicted; it must be navigated through exploration, experimentation, and learning. Her Strategic Compass helps executives pivot as they encounter new "rivers and mountains" in their business landscape. Leadership, she reminds us, is not about control but curiosity. The most powerful organizations foster environments where everyone can learn, question, and contribute. Her three "legs of the stool" are: Innovation as a business strategy Continuous improvement as a business strategy Quality as a business strategy Sadly, she says, quality and customer service—once foundational to success—have too often been forgotten. Building a Culture of Trust and Curiosity Both Marcia and I share a passion for culture change. She emphasizes that great leaders reduce fear and build trust. When people feel safe, they can be curious and collaborative. It's not enough to post company values on a wall; leaders must define the behaviors that bring those values to life. Her workshops often transform even the most rigid workplaces. In one session, an employee of 15 years said it was the first time he had felt truly appreciated and engaged. That's the power of inclusion, curiosity, and respect in action. Leading in the Age of AI As we discussed the rise of artificial intelligence, Marcia was unequivocal: "If you're afraid of AI, you'll be left behind." She sees AI not as a threat but as a tool for learning and transformation. The challenge, she warns, is to build guardrails—policies and ethics that guide its use responsibly. In an age when consulting firms can generate proposals in minutes, leaders must rethink how people create value. The winners will be those who empower their teams to use new tools, think critically, and continuously learn. Key Takeaways Stop before you start. Identify and eliminate wasteful management practices that add complexity without results. Think in systems. Every part of your organization is interconnected. Problems are rarely isolated. Create flow. Open channels for communication, creativity, and collaboration. Replace fear with trust. People thrive when they feel safe to contribute. Stay curious. Learning is not a phase—it's a way of life. Use AI wisely. Embrace new tools, but balance innovation with ethical governance. What You Can Do Next Run a "Stop Doing" audit. Gather your team and list processes or habits that no longer serve your mission. Eliminate one per quarter. Host a curiosity circle. Ask open-ended questions like, "What assumptions are we making?" or "What would our customers say if they were in this room?" Map your system. Visualize how information, decisions, and accountability flow. Look for bottlenecks or blind spots. Pair technology with humanity. Use AI or analytics to inform—not replace—human judgment. Model the behavior you want to see. As Marcia says, leadership begins when everyone sees themselves as a leader. Marcia Daszko's work reminds us that transformation is not about new tools—it's about new thinking. If you're ready to pivot from managing the past to creating the future, this episode will show you how. To learn more about Marcia: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marciadaszko/ Connect with me: Website: www.simonassociates.net Email: info@simonassociates.net Learn more about our books here: Rethink: Smashing the Myths of Women in Business Women Mean Business: Over 500 Insights from Extraordinary Leaders to Spark Your Success On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights Listen + Subscribe: Available wherever you get your podcasts—Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, YouTube, and more. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review and share with someone navigating their own leadership journey. Reach out and contact us if you want to see how a little anthropology can help your business grow.  Let's Talk!

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