By Land Podcast

Emory Wanger

The By Land Podcast is an interview-based show about the outdoors and the people who spend their time there. I talk with people from different backgrounds and walks of life to learn from their experiences, perspectives, and adventures.  I cover everything from backpacking and hunting to conservation, personal growth, and what it means to make the most of our time outside. My hope is that each conversation leaves you with something useful, something to think about, or simply a little inspiration for your own adventure. Thanks so much for being here. I really appreciate it. -Emory, By Land P.S. I hope you come back and tell me all about your adventure.

  1. Aug 14

    #179 Back to the Mountains with Tom French

    In this episode, I sit down with Tom French, author of The Gap Years: Climbing, Skiing, and the Journey Back, to talk about what happens when we step away from the expected path and make room for a different kind of experience. Tom spent his pre-career years climbing, ski racing, and traveling around the world before leaving that life behind to build a career, get married, and raise a family. When he retired at 60, and before moving into the next stage of life, he decided to return to the mountains to see whether the interests that had shaped him as a young man still held meaning decades later. As expected, our conversation became about much more than mountaineering. We talked about the seasons of life, accepting that parenthood and work will temporarily change how we experience the outdoors, and trusting that the mountains will still be there when we are ready to get back to them. Tom also explains why a gap year is not just time off, but a “conscious interlude”—an opportunity to step outside the normal flow of life and have experiences that may shape whatever comes next. We also dive into the less visible sides of climbing: the long hours spent waiting inside a tent, the emotional discipline required to manage uncertainty, and the balance between physical ability, risk management, and mental resilience. Tom shares what it was like to return to Everest after his first attempt was cut short, climb Cholatse with his daughter, and rediscover a part of himself that had never completely disappeared. This is a conversation about adventure, but it is also about identity, aging, parenting, and giving ourselves permission to return to the parts of life that continue to matter to us. Key Takeaways:  The interests and hobbies we set aside during demanding seasons of life are waiting when we have the space to return.A meaningful gap year is not about doing nothing; it is a conscious interlude filled with experiences that everyday life may not allow.Success in mountaineering depends on more than physical strength. It also requires risk management and emotional discipline.Parents can give their children an important gift by allowing them room to choose their own path rather than automatically following the expected one.Returning to an old passion later in life can offer more than nostalgia; it can reveal what continues to provide meaning and direction. Chapters and Links:  Growing up inside an outdoor storeChoosing a different path from his fatherWhy some interests move into the backgroundThe mountains will still be thereFinding room to think againThe untold reality of expedition lifeThe three parts of successful mountaineeringWhat a gap year is really forGiving children permission to chooseReturning to the mountains at 60Climbing Cholatse with his daughterSupporting the Himalayan TrustTom's Book: https://amzn.to/3QbYyO3https://tomfrenchauthor.com/https://himalayantrust.org/Text the show! Support the show Thanks for tuning in!  Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. www.byland.coJoin my NON-SPAM newsletterLeave a Tipemory@byland.co

    #179 Back to the Mountains with Tom French
  2. May 18

    #178 Rethinking How We Share Adventures with Nina Banducci of Polarsteps

    Nina Banducci from Polarsteps joins the podcast to talk about something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately; how we document our lives and why social media doesn’t always feel like the right way to do it. We discuss the trending shift away from performative platforms like Instagram and why more people are craving something more personal and meaningful when it comes to capturing their life experiences. Nina shares her background as an outdoor guide and how that led her to Polarsteps, a travel app built around memory, not attention. We also dive into the thru-hiking culture on the Appalachian Trail, what makes that community so unique, and why experiences like that strip you down to who you really are.  Throughout the episode, we talk about travel, discomfort, growth, and why the best moments aren’t always the ones you post. If you’ve ever questioned why you’re sharing your adventures, or who you’re sharing them for, this episode is right up your ally. Key Takeaways: Social media has shifted from connection to performance, changing how we experience travelReal adventure includes discomfort, mistakes, and unpredictability, not just highlight momentsTools like Polarsteps are emerging to prioritize personal memory over public validationThru-hiking culture creates a rare environment of equality, authenticity, and communityGrowth happens when you step into the unknown, not when everything goes perfectly Chapters/Show Notes:  Introduction to PolarstepsNina’s Background: From Idaho to Outdoor Guiding and TravelThe River Community and Earning Your Place OutdoorsThe Problem with Social Media and Performative SharingWhat Polarsteps Is and Why It ExistsTravel as a Tool for Growth and DiscomfortThe Reality of Thru-Hiking and Trail CultureAppalachian Trail Community and Hostel LifeWhy Brands Must Earn Trust in the Outdoor SpaceHow Polarsteps Is Entering the U.S. MarketThe Future of Travel, Memory, and Storytellingwww.polarsteps.comText the show! Support the show Thanks for tuning in!  Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. www.byland.coJoin my NON-SPAM newsletterLeave a Tipemory@byland.co

    #178 Rethinking How We Share Adventures with Nina Banducci of Polarsteps
  3. 03/17/2025

    #176 Fastpacking: How To Cover More Ground In Less Time with Tayson Whittaker

    In this episode, I sit down with Tayson Whittaker, founder of Outdoor Vitals, to dive deep into fastpacking—what it is, why it works when time is tight, and how to cover more ground in less time. Whether you’re a backpacker looking to move faster and lighter, or someone trying to maximize limited time on the trail, this episode is packed with tons of insights on how to make fastpacking a practical tool in your outdoor adventures. Tayson shares his personal fastpacking strategies, including gear, hydration and nutrition planning, and how to structure your days for big miles without burnout. We also get into the evolution of Outdoor Vitals gear and how it’s designed with fastpackers and minimalist adventurers in mind. If you’ve been curious about how fastpacking can fit into your life—or you just want to find smarter ways to adventure farther and faster—this episode is for you. Key Takeaways: Fastpacking is a tool to cover more ground in less time, opening up bigger adventures even when life is busy.Dialing in your gear makes fastpacking possible—cut the weight without sacrificing comfort or safety.Hydration and electrolytes are mission-critical, especially for high-mileage days. Don't underestimate your salt needs.Nutrition strategy is everything—consistent fueling keeps your energy steady and prevents the dreaded calorie wall.Planning your day around effort, rest, and fueling is the secret to consistent, high-mileage success. Show Notes and Links: IntroductionThe Growth of Outdoor VitalsGame-Changing GearFastpacking vs. Traditional BackpackingNutrition & Hydration in the BackcountryThe Evolution of Down vs. Synthetic InsulationLessons Learned from Long Days on the TrailWhat’s Next for Outdoor Vitals?Outdoor VitalsTokes alcohol stoveVentus Active HoodieVario JacketSkyline FastpackTushar Rain JacketAltitude Sun HoodieRe-LyteText the show! Support the show Thanks for tuning in!  Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. www.byland.coJoin my NON-SPAM newsletterLeave a Tipemory@byland.co

    #176 Fastpacking: How To Cover More Ground In Less Time with Tayson Whittaker
  4. 03/10/2025

    #175 The Power of Rucking with Ruck Evolution’s Bria Ruben

    In this episode of the By Land Podcast, I sit down with Bria Ruben, co-founder of Ruck Evolution, to explore the benefits of rucking—a simple yet powerful way to build fitness, mental resilience, and community. Rucking is walking with weight, and it’s one of the most accessible, low-impact ways to increase endurance and strength.   Bria shares how she discovered rucking, why it became such a key part of her life, and how Ruck Evolution is making rucking more accessible with innovative water-based weight systems. We talk about why rucking is great for all fitness levels, how it can be integrated into everyday life, and the role of community in keeping people moving. If you’ve been looking for a practical, no-fuss way to improve your health and prepare for outdoor adventures, this conversation will inspire you to start rucking today. Key Takeaways: Rucking is an easy way to build endurance, strength, and mental resilience—it’s simply walking with weight.Anyone can ruck—start light and gradually increase weight and distance.Rucking is highly functional—it translates well to activities like hiking, hunting, and everyday movement.It’s more than fitness—rucking builds community and brings people together.You don’t need fancy gear to start—a backpack and some weight (like water bottles) is enough. Show Notes and Links: Introduction – Why rucking is worth your timeBria’s Background – How she discovered rucking and her work in recreation therapyRucking 101 – What it is, why it works, and how to get startedThe Benefits of Rucking – Strength, endurance, mental clarity, and injury preventionHow Rucking Fits Into Everyday Life – Training for outdoor adventures, fitness goals, and moreBuilding a Rucking Community – Why doing it with others keeps you motivatedRuck Evolution’s Innovative Gear – How they’re making rucking more accessibleFinal Thoughts & Resources – Where to learn more and how to get started todayhttps://www.ruckevolution.com/Ruck Evolution Aquabells: https://www.ruckevolution.com/product-page/ruck-evolution-aquabellsWeighted Vest (amazon): https://amzn.to/3QPmqnsText the show! Support the show Thanks for tuning in!  Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. www.byland.coJoin my NON-SPAM newsletterLeave a Tipemory@byland.co

    #175 The Power of Rucking with Ruck Evolution’s Bria Ruben
  5. 01/23/2025

    #174 Bridging the Divide: Hunting vs. Rec with Kevin Timm of Seek Outside

    In this episode, I sit down with Kevin Timm, founder of Seek Outside, to discuss the intersection of hunting, backpacking, and innovation in outdoor gear design. Kevin shares his thoughts on bridging the divide between recreational users and hunters, the role of durability in product design, and the stories behind Seek Outside's tents and backpacks. We dive into the evolution of his minimalist, high-performance shelters and why they’ve become a staple for serious adventurers around the world. Kevin also talks about the philosophy that drives his company’s commitment to user-tested, proven gear and why experience in the outdoors should always trump external validation. Key Takeaways: Bridging the Divide: Kevin discusses how marketing has contributed to the division between hunters and recreational adventurers and emphasizes the shared love of nature.Gear That Lasts: Seek Outside's products are designed to be user-tested and capable of thriving in diverse environments, from Alaskan hunts to desert hikes.Innovation in Design: Kevin shares how Seek Outside’s tents, particularly their zipperless shelters, provide durability without sacrificing weight.The Power of Minimalism: Experienced backpackers tend to favor simple, functional gear that reduces bulk and increases versatility.Access and Conservation: Kevin explains the importance of public land access and highlights issues such as landlocked public areas and the complexities of wildlife conservation. Show Notes and Links: Introduction: Welcoming Kevin Timm back to the podcast and revisiting his journey with Seek Outside.The Outdoor Divide: Discussing the divide between hunters and recreational adventurers and how marketing plays a role.The Origins of Seek Outside: Kevin’s motivation for creating gear that excels in harsh conditions.Tents That Survive Anything: A breakdown of the Red Cliff and Cimarron shelters and their legendary durability.Packs that Redefine Comfort: How Seek Outside integrates backpacking and hunting designs to create sub-3lb packs that carry heavy loads comfortably.Simplifying Gear Needs: Why minimalist pack designs are often superior to overbuilt models full of pockets.Conservation Conversations: The importance of public land access and issues like corner crossing and landlocked land.Valuing Experience Over Trophies: Kevin’s reflections on why outdoor experiences matter more than external validation.https://seekoutside.com/https://seekoutside.com/silex-1p-xl/https://seekoutside.com/sunlight-2p/https://seekoutside.com/cimarron-4p/https://seekoutside.com/flight-3/Text the show! Support the show Thanks for tuning in!  Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. www.byland.coJoin my NON-SPAM newsletterLeave a Tipemory@byland.co

    #174 Bridging the Divide: Hunting vs. Rec with Kevin Timm of Seek Outside
  6. 01/11/2025

    #173 From 100 Miles to Full-Time Creator with Chad Lubinski

    In this episode, I sit down with Chad to dive into his journey from a beginner hiker to a seasoned thru-hiker, ultra-runner, and outdoor content creator. We explore the moments that shaped his path, including his first 100-mile hike, overcoming mental and physical challenges, and his leap from a 9-to-5 job to full-time content creation. Chad shares his insights on balancing passion with work, avoiding burnout, and how endurance sports like ultra-running have influenced his approach to hunting and outdoor adventures. This episode is packed with honest reflections, valuable lessons, and inspiration for anyone pursuing adventure and creativity. Key Takeaways 100-Mile Hikes Build Resilience: Reaching the 100-mile mark on a hike forces you to adapt and grow, making it a significant milestone for backpackers.Mentorship Accelerates Learning: Observing experienced hikers can help you fast-track your progress and avoid common mistakes.Compartmentalization Prevents Burnout: Separating content creation from personal adventures helps maintain a healthy relationship with the outdoors.Endurance Sports Enhance Mental Toughness: Ultra-running taught Chad how to endure discomfort and maintain focus during long hunting trips.Pursuing Passion Requires Discipline: Whether it's creating content or pursuing outdoor goals, success comes from building habits and embracing the hard moments. Show Notes and Links Intro and Catching UpThe Waterfall Controversy and Preferences in NatureChad’s First 100-Mile Hike and the Power of MentorshipTransition to Full-Time Content CreationBalancing Content Creation with Outdoor EnjoymentAvoiding Burnout as a CreatorOvercoming Setbacks and Finding MotivationFrom Ultra-Running to Hunting: Lessons in EnduranceThe Reality of Hunting as an Endurance Sport Discipline, Passion, and Self-DiscoveryChad's InstagramChad's YouTube ChannelText the show! Support the show Thanks for tuning in!  Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. www.byland.coJoin my NON-SPAM newsletterLeave a Tipemory@byland.co

    #173 From 100 Miles to Full-Time Creator with Chad Lubinski
  7. 12/22/2024

    #172 A Spectacular Misadventure in the Grand Canyon with Kevin Fedarko

    Acclaimed author Kevin Fedarko, joins the podcast to discuss his new book, A Walk in the Park, which details the epic journey he took across the length of the Grand Canyon. Kevin reflects on the grueling physical and emotional challenges he and his hiking partner, Pete McBride, faced and how the landscape humbled them. He shares the powerful lessons learned from the wilderness and the close-knit Grand Canyon community that helped them along the way. Our conversation touches on themes of humility, the power of community, and how wilderness can shape us and strengthen our bonds. Kevin also provides insights into his six-year writing process and the deep connection he feels to the Grand Canyon. Key Takeaways: Preparation Is Key: Overconfidence can lead to hard lessons, especially in the wilderness.Community Matters: Support from others can turn failure into triumph.Humility Is Transformative: The Grand Canyon has a way of humbling even the most seasoned adventurers.Conservation Is a Responsibility: Protecting wilderness ensures its legacy for future generations.Wilderness Connects Us: Experiencing the outdoors with loved ones deepens bonds and creates lasting memories. Chapters/Show Notes & Links: Introduction to Kevin Fedarko’s JourneyThe Grand Canyon Trek: A Humbling ExperienceCommunity in the Canyon - A Lifesaving ForceLessons Learned from the WildernessWilderness and Conservation: A Personal ReflectionFinal Thoughts and Kevin’s Book TourWatch this episode on YouTubeBuy the Book!!Watch the documentaryhttps://www.kevinfedarko.com/Kevin's InstagramKevin's on XKevin on FacebookText the show! Support the show Thanks for tuning in!  Check out the links below to learn more, connect, and support the show. www.byland.coJoin my NON-SPAM newsletterLeave a Tipemory@byland.co

    #172 A Spectacular Misadventure in the Grand Canyon with Kevin Fedarko
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The By Land Podcast is an interview-based show about the outdoors and the people who spend their time there. I talk with people from different backgrounds and walks of life to learn from their experiences, perspectives, and adventures.  I cover everything from backpacking and hunting to conservation, personal growth, and what it means to make the most of our time outside. My hope is that each conversation leaves you with something useful, something to think about, or simply a little inspiration for your own adventure. Thanks so much for being here. I really appreciate it. -Emory, By Land P.S. I hope you come back and tell me all about your adventure.

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