Per My Last Promo

Danielle Klemm

Welcome to Per My Last Promo, the podcast where marketing pros, founders, and creators get real about their biggest wins—both the expected and the surprising. I’m your host, Danielle Klemm, a Conversion Rate & Funnel Optimization Strategist. Where each week we dive into the strategies and data-backed decisions behind milestone-smashing results. Whether you’re leading a wellness brand or growing your business as a course creator, you’ll leave with actionable insights you can use to grow your business, no matter the industry. This is your go-to for pulling back the curtain on marketing that drives results. Ready to dive into what really moves the needle? Let’s get into it! Connect more with Danielle at danielleklemm.com or @danielleklemmm

  1. MAR 4

    The Order Bump + Upsell Strategy That Hit 1.4X ROAS (And What Actually Made It Work) with Tony Rulli

    📥 Grab the Frontline Playbook: What's Tony testing next based on this campaign? Get the running doc of every guest's next moves → https://danielleklemm.kit.com/next Tony from Intentional Spark shares how his client in the productivity space transformed their tripwire funnel from barely breaking even (70% return on ad spend) to 1.4x ROAS through strategic funnel optimization and creative testing. This case study reveals the critical levers that move the needle when running paid traffic to evergreen funnels.In this episode: How mobile-first optimization and tightening the lead magnet-to-tripwire connection increased conversions without changing the core offerWhy audience targeting is dead and your ad creative is now your targeting—plus how to use problem-only content (no CTA) to attract higher-intent leadsThe data tracking system that made optimization possible: a simple weekly spreadsheet pulling from Meta, Kit, and Google Analytics to track the full funnel from lead to upsell What they're testing next: Continuing to experiment with order bump pricing and positioning, plus scaling with avatar-specific creative that speaks to different audience segmentsAbout Tony: Tony runs Intentional Spark, an ads agency that focuses on conversion-driven campaigns across Meta and other platforms. Unlike agencies that only optimize for leads or engagement, Tony's team takes a holistic approach, working on funnel structure, offer optimization, and ad creative because they know ads only work as well as the entire system behind them. 🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES:Want to know why YOUR funnel isn't converting like this? Take the 3-min quiz → https://www.danielleklemm.com/almostMore from Danielle Klemm, Sales Funnel & Launch Conversion Optimization Expert:Website: https://danielleklemm.com/ Instagram: @danielleklemmmConnect with Tony:Website: intentionalspark.comFree Resource: Landing Page Blueprint (opt-in to get on their weekly newsletter + monthly workshops): https://www.intentionalspark.com/perfect-landing-page-blueprint

    46 min
  2. FEB 25

    Are Lead Magnets Actually Dead?

    You've seen the hot takes: "Lead magnets are dead!" Usually followed by someone selling you a $27 tripwire instead. But if lead magnets are so dead, why are successful business owners still using them? Why are my clients still getting immediate sales from them across 15+ niches and price points from $47 to $5K? In this solo episode, I'm breaking down: Why the "lead magnets are dead" narrative is misleading (and what part of it is actually true)What changed between 2010-2022 vs. the discerning buyer era we're in nowThe real reason your lead magnet isn't converting (hint: it's not the format)Why a 20-page guide I created flopped, and what I learned from hiring an expert who steered me wrongHow lead magnets need to work in 2025+ to prime people for purchase instead of just collecting emailsThe strategic framework that's gotten clients sales within a month across different audience sizes, niches, and offer typesThis isn't about format (PDF vs. quiz vs. video). It's about understanding the evolved buyer journey and reverse-engineering from your offer's price point, your audience's skepticism level, and the gap between passive consumption and active purchasing. If you've spent hours creating lead magnets that sit unused, or if you've started to resent your freebie because nobody's booking calls, this episode will shift how you think about the entry point to your business. Resources mentioned: Free Quiz: The Freebie-to-Buy Gap Quiz (diagnose exactly where you're losing buyers) -https://danielleklemm.com/leadquiz/

    19 min
  3. FEB 18

    The $400K Launch (And What Actually Made It Work) with Melissa Litchfield

    📥 Grab the Frontline Playbook: What's Melissa testing next based on this campaign?  Get the running doc of every guest's next moves → https://danielleklemm.kit.com/next How a $27 two-day workshop turned into a $400K launch (and why the $7 version flopped) with Melissa Litchfield of Litchfield Media Co. Melissa's crafting client tested the same 2-day workshop at $7, $17, and $27. The cheaper price brought in 4X more people, but converted at less than 1%. The $27 ticket? Only 454 sales, but a 6% conversion rate to their $6-8K program and $400K in total revenue. This episode breaks down what actually moves the needle when you're scaling with paid ads. In this episode: Why spending $146 to acquire a $27 ticket was the right move (and how quality beats quantity every time) The exact conversion rates from cold traffic → paid workshop → $6-8K high-ticket program Why SLO funnels aren't "set and forget" and the truth about break-even that nobody talks about What Melissa's doubling down on next: going back to the $27 price point with an order bump after months of testing About Melissa Litchfield:  Melissa is the founder of Litchfield Mediaco, where she's spent the last 10 years proving that small businesses can compete with big players, they just need the right marketing strategy. She specializes in conversion rate optimization and paid traffic for course creators and digital product sellers, and has been running ads for this crafting client since 2022. 🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES: Want to know why YOUR funnel isn't converting like this? Take the 3-min quiz   Need a funnel expert to review your setup? Book a Funnel Assessment Call  More from Danielle Klemm, Sales Funnel & Launch Conversion Optimization Expert: Website: https://danielleklemm.com/  Instagram: @danielleklemmm Connect with Melissa Litchfield: Instagram: @litchfieldmediaco Ad Traffic School (Membership) → https://litchfieldmedia.org/ad-traffic-school  Free Training: Get Your Business Portfolio Ad-Ready in 48 Hours → https://litchfieldmedia.org/roadworthy

    35 min
  4. Same Audience, Same Ads… One Flopped. Here’s Why [Client Growth Diaries]

    07/21/2025

    Same Audience, Same Ads… One Flopped. Here’s Why [Client Growth Diaries]

    In this storytime episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on a real client scenario from when I ran a funnel and ads agency where two nearly identical programs (let’s say bookkeeping for business owners) launched to the same exact audience using the same exact ad targeting.  One offer took off. The other… flatlined. Here’s the thing: it wasn’t the price. It wasn’t the visuals or sales page length or ad budget. Inside, I’m breaking down: Why “you’re tired” messaging isn’t enough anymore The difference between talking at your buyer vs. building trust  How early buyers vs. seasoned buyers require completely different angles What bigger names like Amy Porterfield and Alex Hormozi can get away with but you can’t What happened when one client invested in a funnel audit and re-angled her copy using real buyer data (and what happened when the other didn’t) If you’ve been tweaking emails, adding more posts, or throwing money at ads without better results… this episode might be your wake-up call.     Links Mentioned in This Episode: 💻 Fix My Sales Page Bootcamp: My 2-week sprint to help you identify and fix the sections of your sales page that are quietly stalling conversions—without rewriting the whole thing. 🔍 Done-For-You Sales Page Rebuilds: Get expert-level sales page copy, layout, and custom graphics grounded in buyer psychology. Ideal for launches and funnels that need to convert on cold traffic. 🛠️ Funnel Strategy + Audit Services: For business owners who want to uncover the invisible gaps in their messaging, positioning, and conversion journey. If you enjoyed this breakdown, screenshot and tag me or DM me your aha moment on Instagram @danielleklemmm Let’s stop guessing, and start converting.

    23 min
4.9
out of 5
32 Ratings

About

Welcome to Per My Last Promo, the podcast where marketing pros, founders, and creators get real about their biggest wins—both the expected and the surprising. I’m your host, Danielle Klemm, a Conversion Rate & Funnel Optimization Strategist. Where each week we dive into the strategies and data-backed decisions behind milestone-smashing results. Whether you’re leading a wellness brand or growing your business as a course creator, you’ll leave with actionable insights you can use to grow your business, no matter the industry. This is your go-to for pulling back the curtain on marketing that drives results. Ready to dive into what really moves the needle? Let’s get into it! Connect more with Danielle at danielleklemm.com or @danielleklemmm