RFK Refugees Podcast

RFK Refugees

RFK Refugees is a podcast dedicated to covering all things DC United and Washington Spirit. Since 2017, Ted Meyer and Jon Hoffman have talked every week about DC soccer, bringing the perspective of long-time fans to the broader fan community. This show is for anyone with an interest in either team or someone looking for some group therapy for yet another painful DCU season. At least the Spirit are always good.

  1. Sep 23

    Pulling the Copper Wires Out of the House | DC United 1-2 Charlotte + Munteanu's Best Game

    Thirty-one shots. Three and a half expected goals. A 2-1 loss at home. D.C. United were comprehensively the better side against Charlotte and lost anyway, in a game that took a real bite out of what was left of the playoff picture. Jon and Ted give it a few days, look at the table, and work out how bad it actually is. Louis Munteanu had the best game he has played in a D.C. shirt — ten shots on his own, three chances created, lively and dangerous on the left, and for the first time this season a player who made the people around him better. Not everyone agreed; two on target out of ten will do that. Jon's question for the frustrated: who else on this roster was taking those shots, and would they have finished them? One of the ten came off the underside of the bar and probably crossed the line. Probably. There is no truly definitive angle, because every camera in this league is off to the side or behind, and Ted — who referees — explains exactly how confidently an angle will lie to you. Put a neutral in the VAR chair with those images and they can't tell you either. Which puts the blame on MLS: buy goal-line technology, or at minimum point a camera at the goal line. The detail that stings is that the national missed-calls show didn't even bring it up. "We don't matter at all." D.C.'s goal was a Keisuke Kurokawa cross headed in by Lucas Bartlett, the club's third-leading scorer, which tells you where the goals come from. Charlotte's winner was Allan Saint-Maximin's first in MLS, and the guys walk through the three players who let it happen — Kimito Nono forced into a choice, Brandon Servania caught in no man's land, and Nathan Ordaz, a fresh sixty-fifth-minute substitute, jogging back while his team defended an odd-man rush. Then René Weiler. After a season of pointing inward — at his players, at what the club spends — he pointed outward for the first time, at the replay, with enough heat that Jon figures he'd have brought a printout to the podium if Audi Field had a photo printer nearby. He also declined, pointedly, to talk about the playoffs. Jon liked seeing him defend his players. Ted read a facade starting to crack. Plus the listener questions, which this week were all variations on the same one. Jason 1551 asks if D.C. are officially toast — not officially, but the bread is getting crispy. Luigi DeGuzman asks what's left to play for. And Brandon Zebron asks for a keep-or-replace on the entire matchday squad, which turns into the longest segment of the show: who's under contract, who's gone in December, why almost the whole bench turns over, and why Matti Peltola is probably sold in January whether anyone likes it or not. Underneath all of it is the tiebreaker. Six wins. All those draws keep you breathing right up until they don't. Vancouver away next, without both designated players. IN THIS EPISODEThe Richmond Kickers sell their head coach mid-season — and Jon's copper wiresDC United 1-2 Charlotte: thirty-one shots, 3.4 xG, and a home lossLouis Munteanu's ten shots and his best game in a DC shirtThe people who still weren't happy, and Jon's answer to themWhy this roster can't play like that every weekKurokawa to Bartlett, and a team that lives on set piecesAllan Saint-Maximin's first MLS goal, and the three players who let it happenNathan Ordaz jogging back, and a contract that runs through 2029René Weiler points the finger outward for the first time all season"I don't want to talk about the playoffs"The goal that wasn't: bad angles, no goal-line technology, and a missed-calls show that skipped itLuigi DeGuzman: what's left in the rest of the season?Brandon Zebron: keep or replace, the starting eleven and the benchKye Rowles, a green card, and a raise that costs less against the cap

  2. Sep 15

    An Economic Vampire | DC United 0-0 Atlanta + Private Equity Comes for Audi Field

    Zero shots on goal. Four days after beating Columbus 2-1, D.C. United went to work against an Atlanta side sitting below them in the table and produced nothing. Sloppy, disjointed, no cohesive attack. Nathan Ordaz's effort from wide was the closest thing to a chance the Black-and-Red created all night. Sean Johnson's saves and a Miguel Almirón miss from close range are the only reasons this finished 0-0 instead of as a loss. Jon and Ted dig into why this keeps happening. João Peglow was suspended on yellow-card accumulation, leaving a midfield of Andre Dozzell, Ordaz, Kimito Nono and Brandon Servania that broke up play competently and created absolutely nothing going forward. Tai Baribo and Louis Munteanu score goals — they don't make them. Nobody on this roster makes them. That's not a bad night, that's the shape of the squad. This was a must-win against a team below them, and everyone below D.C. gained ground. It's mid-September. Table watch officially begins. René Weiler admitted the performance was poor, then returned — by the guys' count, roughly the fifth time — to comments about what the club spends. Jon has run out of patience with that line, given Weiler helped pick this squad. A question from Bluesky asks whether Weiler keeps his job if D.C. miss the playoffs. Both hosts say yes, and probably should: the last five D.C. head coaches have landed at roughly a 43% win rate regardless of who was in the chair. Weiler's contract runs through December 2027 and he's the highest-paid coach in club history. The real pressure arrives in the winter window, not in October. Plus the Matti Peltola question. Benched against Atlanta, on in the second half, and the broadcast's man of the match against Columbus four days earlier. Ted's read: he doesn't fit Weiler's 4-3-3 and he's gone in January. Jon's objection: if he isn't a fit, you sell while the value is high — not after half a season rotting on the bench. Roster movement: Conner Antley has been recalled from his loan at Tampa Bay after four starts, with no announced injury behind it. Caden Clark has been loaned out to Tacoma Defiance. Then the story that put D.C. United on TechCrunch. The club is reported to be in talks to sell a stake in both the team and Audi Field to Collaborative Fund, the venture firm led by Craig Shapiro. MLS has not approved anything, and the league is still working out how large a private equity position it will even allow. Floated in the reporting: in-stadium placements for the firm's portfolio companies, and AI-managed fan entry times. Jon's skepticism is straightforward — an equity sale puts money in the current owner's pocket. It does not put a player on the field. On the Spirit side: a loss to Boston Legacy FC at Audi Field, conceding twice in the final four minutes while pushing for an equalizer. Washington are still second overall. Jon's theory is a cohesion problem — a roster of stars and no club servants, which is a hard job for any coach when ownership signs everyone available. And there's a goalkeeper question waiting when Aubrey Kingsbury comes back. Up top, Jon played inline hockey for the first time in 25 years, won, scored, then had his flight cancelled and Ubered home — turning 41 and picking hard sports on purpose. Ted refereed all weekend and is still proud of playing an advantage and then coming back for the yellow. And the closing question: any buyer's remorse on the season tickets after a night like that? No. Now he can really yell at people.

  3. Sep 2

    We're Getting Thin on Dudes | DC United 0-0 LAFC + Transfer Deadline

    Nobody predicted a 0-0. Jon said so on air, repeatedly, and he'd like the record to reflect that he's aware of it. DC United held LAFC to a single shot on goal in a sold-out Audi Field, and Kimito Nono is the reason why. He took Son Heung-min out of the match so completely that LAFC eventually gave up on the matchup and moved him centrally to find him space. Keisuke Kurokawa did the same job on the other side. Between them, DC neutralized LAFC's two most dangerous attackers and dared everyone else to solve the problem. Nobody could. The other half of the story is the one this show has been telling for months. Jackson Hopkins put the best chance of the night straight at the goalkeeper. Louis Munteanu cracked one from range that deserved better placement. And without Tai Baribo in the box, every cross DC delivered had nowhere to land. Then there's the roster. Gabe Segal's season is over without a single DC appearance. Caden Clark's move to New York was reported as done right up until it wasn't. Nikola Markovic got two minutes and won't be trusted to start anywhere until next year at the earliest. The transfer window closes tomorrow and DC are, as Jon put it, getting thin on dudes. Plus: every MLS team is returning to the US Open Cup, Jon buys season tickets roughly a week after telling you not to, and the guys disagree sharply about whether the Sprint Season should be a youth showcase. The full FC Cincinnati preview is on the Patreon show. EPISODE HIGHLIGHTSDC United hold LAFC to one shot on goal — and it came off a deflectionKimito Nono keeps Son Heung-min in his pocket for ninety minutesKeisuke Kurokawa's much-improved shift, plus a goal ruled offsideAndre Dozzell keeps looking like a center back nobody predictedMatti Peltola's strong run and what happens when Kye Rowles returnsPatreon question from Jacob Schultz: how did Nathan Ordaz look on his first start?Four chances created, a 7.1 rating — the Ordaz numbers vs. the eye testJackson Hopkins' 0.64 xGOT miss and the finishing problemLouis Munteanu as a standalone nine without Tai BariboSilvan Hefti suspended, Sean Nealis in the doghouse, contract confusionNikola Markovic's two-minute cameo and No. 1 draft pick expectationsGabe Segal's season ends through injuryThe Caden Clark move to New York collapsesU22 slots, international slots and the supplemental list, explainedDeadline day predictions: one in, one outWhy MLS moved its window behind the European windowEvery MLS team returns to the US Open Cup — round of 64, December finalFolarin Balogun's Everton move falls throughJon becomes a season ticket holder days after telling everyone not toBluesky question: how hard is it to sit on rumors you can't report?Should the Sprint Season be a youth development showcase? Jon says yes, Ted says absolutely not

  4. Aug 25

    The Vibes Are Not Great | DC United Lose to New England & Charlotte

    The vibes are not great. DC United dropped back-to-back games — a 3-0 home loss to New England Revolution and a 3-1 loss at Charlotte FC — and Jon and Ted are here to make sense of it all. They break down the same defensive breakdown that killed DC three times against New England, Jack Harrison's one-million-dollar destruction of DC's left side, and a Charlotte game where Louis Munteanu's goal briefly made things interesting before the wheels fell off. Kye Rowles' injury is the common denominator. The rotation — or lack of it — is the bigger conversation. And then there's Renée Weiler's post-game press conference telling fans to be more patient and more objective. Jon and Ted respond. Also: Jacob Murrell heads to Falkirk, the transfer window's extra day, Nathan Ordaz's strange lack of minutes, and the new MLS 20-team playoff format explained. Extended breakdown — more on Weiler, fan questions, and deeper roster talk — at the $5 tier. IN THIS EPISODEJon goes to the Richmond Kickers game solo — the River City Red Army "farts of pine" bannerTed bought LAFC tickets when the vibes were good. The vibes have shiftedDC United 0-3 New England Revolution: the same breakdown, three timesJack Harrison: one million dollars, two assists, completely torched DC's left sideKye Rowles out injured: the common denominator between both lossesKeisuke Kurokawa trending downward after playing almost every minuteHosei Kijima: the week's standoutDC United 1-3 Charlotte FC: Louis Munteanu scores, DC wake up their opponentsThree games in a week with barely any rotation — Renée Weiler's callSean Nealis: hasn't looked strong, under contract through next yearNikola Markovic: why isn't he starting over the midfielders at center back?Nathan Ordaz: did the coach even want him?Renée Weiler tells fans to be "more patient and more objective"Does Weiler have the rope to survive a playoff miss?Jacob Murrell heads to Falkirk — a victim of no MLS Next Pro affiliateThe transfer window closes a day after the European windowMLS 20-team playoff format: how it works and why they're doing itRelegation as the logical companion piece🎙️ Extended breakdown at the $5 tier: patreon.com/rfkrefugees Vamos. 🔴⚫

  5. Aug 19

    Shuffling and Suffering | DC United Draw 1-1 with CF Montréal

    Storm week in Fredericksburg and Stafford pushed the show a day — power outages, spooked dogs, and flickering internet. Fitting preparation for a DC United draw. DC picked up a point on the road against CF Montréal for their ninth draw of the season. Jon and Ted break down a game that probably should have been a loss if not for an eight-save performance from Sean Johnson. They dig into the backline setup with Kye Rowles injured and Lucas Bartlett suspended, Matti Peltola's center back experiment, Keisuke Kurokawa's rough night, Hosei Kijima's debut, and the ongoing Jackson Hopkins question. Plus the Baltimore stadium deal, DC's brutal remaining schedule, and the goalkeeper depth picture with Grant Leveille in the pipeline. Extended breakdown — roster moves, upcoming match preview, and Patreon questions — at the $5 tier. IN THIS EPISODEStorm week: power outages, spooked dogs, show pushed a dayDC United 1-1 CF Montréal: nine draws on the seasonWas this a point earned or two points dropped?The backline setup: Kye Rowles out, Lucas Bartlett suspendedMatti Peltola at center back — pros, cons, and why it's not his natural roleKeisuke Kurokawa's worst game in a DC United uniformHosei Kijima's debut — first impressions and open questionsJackson Hopkins on the left: the dribbles, the decision making, and the diveSean Johnson: eight saves, best performance of the yearGrant Leveille and the goalkeeper depth pictureThe Baltimore stadium deal: dead or just resting?DC's brutal remaining scheduleLISTEN & FOLLOW🎙️ Extended breakdown at the $5 tier: patreon.com/rfkrefugees ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJf1fdSLUx0 Vamos. 🔴⚫

  6. Aug 5

    "A New Feeling of Hope" DC United vs TFC Win + Nashville Comeback Draw | 2026

    Something is different. After a 2-1 win over Toronto FC and a comeback draw against Nashville SC, Jon and Ted are feeling something unfamiliar — genuine optimism about DC United's 2026. They break down both results, dig into what Louis Munteanu and João Peglow are bringing to the team, talk through the new signings and the competition they're adding to the squad, and get into stadium changes at Audi Field. Then it's the big league news: Don Garber riding off into the sunset after 25+ years, Larry Berg as the next MLS commissioner, Inter Miami reportedly closing in on Kevin De Bruyne, and Jon's chaotic proposal to blow up the DP rule entirely. The extended breakdown — more DC United detail and Patreon questions — is at the $5 tier. IN THIS EPISODESolo dad life: Jon waited for a small child to fall asleep to record thisTed catches the Black Keys at the Allianz Amphitheater in RichmondDC United 2-1 Toronto FC: strong first half, Sean Johnson man of the matchThe Nashville SC comeback draw and what it says about this team's mentalityLouis Munteanu and João Peglow — the improvements turning headsNew signings and the competition they bring to the squadStadium changes at Audi FieldDon Garber's legacy: from ten teams nearly folding to thirty with stadiums everywhereLarry Berg as next MLS commissioner — what it means for spending and the salary capInter Miami reportedly closing in on Kevin De BruyneJon's proposal: unlimited DPs, but lose three roster spots per signing

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RFK Refugees is a podcast dedicated to covering all things DC United and Washington Spirit. Since 2017, Ted Meyer and Jon Hoffman have talked every week about DC soccer, bringing the perspective of long-time fans to the broader fan community. This show is for anyone with an interest in either team or someone looking for some group therapy for yet another painful DCU season. At least the Spirit are always good.

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