The Ljubljana Podcast

Noah Charney, Urska Charney

This is The Ljubljana podcast, hosted by Slovenia's most enthusiastic expat resident, American professor and best-selling author and Slovenia's Ambassador of Tourism, Noah Charney. Noah hosts the award-winning official podcast for the Slovenian Tourist Organization, "Feel Slovenia," and the official podcast for Bled, "The Bled Podcast" and is the author of Slovenology: Living and Traveling in the World's Best Country" and "Bledology" among more than 20 books. This podcast covers Ljubljana and its surroundings, featuring interviews with fascinating locals and expats. It is produced by Urska Charney and Season 1 is brought to you by Hotel Mrak and Odprta Kuhna.

Episodes

  1. 11/17/2024

    Vlado Kreslin - An Exclusive Interview with Slovenia's Music Legend

    This podcast is not only about Ljubljana, but also about interesting folk who live in Ljubljana. And it doesn’t get any more interesting than Slovenia’s most beloved musician, Vlado Kreslin. Kreslin is a national institution in Slovenia, having achieved the status of folk hero.  Songs from his albums, and based on his published poetry, have inspired films and novels. I could describe him as Slovenia’s answer to Bruce Springsteen or Bob Dylan (in fact he opened for a Dylan concert), and that would give you a sense of how universally popular he is, from teenagers to grandparents—everyone knows and appreciates his songs. He’s also been a friend for more than a decade, Everyone can agree on the transcendental power of words and music. In 2007 my wife and I wrote to Vlado Kreslin, simply to say that we were great fans of his music, and to ask if I might interview him for a magazine article.  My wife is Slovenian (and is the producer of this podcast), and I had been introduced to Kreslin's music by Slovenian friends.  To our great surprise, Kreslin wrote back personally.  I had somehow imagined that any major star would be surrounded by an entourage of “handlers” who would respond to emails on his behalf.But Kreslin is down-to-earth, a fan’s dream.  He once performed a private show for a fan from Texas who flew to Slovenia to see him perform, but who had arrived too late to see the real concert.  We quickly became friendly.    Kreslin’s thirty-year career has spanned performances with R.E.M. and Bob Dylan and concerts around the world. While he is most associated with Prekmurje, the flatlands of Slovenia by the Hungarian border where he grew up, he lives in Ljubljana, which is where I met up with him for today’s episode. Talented in languages and music, Kreslin studied first in the 1970s to be an English teacher, but his love was always music.  He performed in a number of bands through the 1980s, including Martin Krpan (named after a legendary strongman of Slovenian folklore).Kreslin’s innate charisma and nuanced voice made him a natural front man for these bands.  An avid poet, he wrote the lyrics and co-wrote the music, while playing guitar and singing lead vocals.  The poems, many of which are lyrics, take on a new meaning when performed with music, much as a play is fascinating to read but benefits from the interpretation of an actor. My wife translated his poems into English and, in 2009, when I was teaching at Yale, he was invited to the university to receive an honorary fellowship. It was great to have him there and Slovenian expats came from far and wide, delighted at the chance to see someone who is nationally beloved, the sound of home.   It was after Martin Krpan, when Kreslin set off on his own, that he truly emerged as an artist.  He began to perform with some of the musicians who had played at his grandfather’s restaurant in his youth, in the Prekmurje village of Beltinci.  They formed what became known as Beltinška Banda (the Band of Beltinci), and some still play with Kreslin, even into their 80s.   Kreslin also encourages young musicians, and his new band was dubbed Mali Bogovi (Minor Gods).  Seeing Kreslin perform on stage is a union of eras.Beltinska Banda plays alongside Mali Bogovi, octogenarians beside twenty-somethings.  Their musicianship is without question but the tie that binds them is Kreslin the vocalist and writer, the bridge between generations.  I caught up with him at his home in Ljubljana, where he first asked me if I listen to records. A chat with Kreslin is really the best way to get to know his personality. That and listening to his music. He has many albums, but the one I recommend is a three-CD set (remember when people listened to music on CDs?) called Koncert. It’s a live concert recording and the one that I had forever in my car, until cars stopped coming with CD players. But since you’re most likely to listen to music on a streaming service, then have a listen to Od Visine Se Vrti, Iz Gorickega v Piran, and Namesto Koga Roza Cveti. Kreslin kindly gave us permission to play a song at the end of this episode, to give you a taste of what he’s all about. When you come to Ljubljana, seeing Kreslin is concert is just about the best thing you could do with your ears. I go every year and get goosebumps each time. He is Slovenia incarnate, truly a legend, and more importantly, a really nice guy. We’ll send you out with my favorite of Kreslin’s songs, Od Visine Se Vrti, Vertiginous from the Height, which is the most beautiful love song I know.   If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe and consider also checking out Noah's other Slovenia-focused podcasts, The Bled Podcast and the gold award-winning Feel Slovenia, the official podcast for the Slovenian Tourist Organization.

    38 min
  2. 11/16/2024

    Welcome to Ljubljana - An Insider Expat's Guide to Slovenia's Capital

    For our first episode, we thought we’d bring you a one-stop overview of some of my favorite things in Ljubljana. It’s based on an article I wrote for The Guardian newspaper, part of their Local’s Guide series. This is an expat’s guide to Ljubljana. It’s just scratching the surface, but it’s a good place to start. How many times can a city be called a ‘hidden gem’ and still remain hidden? This is the question for Ljubljana, and the country of which it is the capital, Slovenia. It feels as though it is constantly being discovered by the more worldly and knowledgeable tourists, even when its praises have been sung in just about every magazine and broadsheet with a travel section. And yet this city of some 300,000 (a quarter of which are students) still feels like a delight that is beyond the standard tourist route, perhaps because it surprises with its charms, its worldliness, its accessibility, its idyllic, well, everything. Ljubljana means ‘beloved’ and there’s a reason why. Though it sounds like hyperbole, I’ve yet to meet a tourist who did not love Ljubljana. I was one of them, once. While still a student, I undertook a Eurailing trip, as American college students are wont to do, and stopped in Ljubljana for an overnight. Of all the stops, from London to Budapest, this was the city that felt the most immediately liveable, and the biggest surprise, because I arrived with no expectations. It feels more like Switzerland than its former Yugoslavian neighbours, and Ljubljana has always been the most economic and culturally advanced of ex-Yugoslavia, drawing influence from nearby Venice and Vienna. It is also both one of the greenest cities in the world and one of the safest. English is spoken everywhere, at a very high level. Its welcome feel, its accessibility, its reasonable prices but affluent feel, all make it an ideal weekend getaway. Or, like me, you might just up and move here. I’ve become Slovenia’s most vocal ‘cheerleader’ in anglophone media (including past articles in The Guardian), and I even wrote a book called Slovenology: Living and Traveling in the World’s Best Country which, again, sounds like hyperbole, but my argument that Slovenia, and its capital, have the highest quality of life for the most reasonable cost of living is a researched hypothesis. Many a foreigner writes to me with a request for recommendations, and I’m always delighted to help others discover the facets of this ‘hidden gem’. Yugo-Nostalgia Perhaps the best way to begin is with what first fascinates foreigners—the aspects of Ljubljana that recall its Yugoslav heritage. These days such locations are considered ‘retro’ and are hipster hangouts, and they feel most exotic to guests. The Museum of Contemporary History will satisfy the curious traveler with exhibits on Yugoslavia, the most positive and user-friendly attempt at socialism. I like to summit Nebotičnik, the first ‘skyscraper’ in Yugoslavia, which is miniature by today’s standards, but has a beautiful Secessionist-style lobby and a fine café at its top, with gorgeous views over the city and to the Alps in the north. Enjoy a glass of wine at the top—Slovenian wines are among the highest-rated in the world, and I particularly recommend the indigenous white wine, Rebula (I’m partial to those produced by Edi Simčič and Marjan Simčič, two unrelated vintners with the same surname, and the sparkling versions from Medot vineyard). The Sunday antiques market along the wonderfully-walkable Ljubljanica River is a time warp, as are dips into various bric-a-brac shops, like Antikvariat Trubarjeva, where you can pick up true relics of Yugo-nostalgia (a real term used frequently in these parts). Don’t forget to grab a pizza a Parma, the first pizzeria in Yugoslavia. In style it bears little resemblance to the gourmet Neapolitan pies en vogue today, but it’s delicious nonetheless, and sits beneath Cankarjev Dom, the national cultural centre, which is itself an architectural masterpiece recently featured in the MOMA exhibition on Concrete Architecture in Yugoslavia.  A Foodie Paradise There was a time, not long ago, when I felt that I’d tried every restaurant of interest in Ljubljana, but no more. Top-level eateries sprout faster than I can sample them, but there are some tried-and-true classics. The best high-end establishment is JB, a restaurant perennial listed among the best in the world. It’s eponymous chef, Janez Bratovž, was the first chef to introduce nouvelle cuisine to the region, back in the early 90s, and is considered the godfather of fine dining. He also has one of the most reasonably-priced menus among Michelin-star-level restaurants I can imagine. A stroll through Tržnice, the central market, provides a smorgasbord of farm-fresh ingredients. Be sure to stand in the long line for the sauerkraut seller, a dynamic, smiling blonde named Marjetka, whose family is among the last in the country to cultivate an indigenous cabbage that, it is said, makes the best sauerkraut. On fine weather Fridays, the market explodes into a huge outdoor food fair called Odprta Kuhna, which is the best way to sample a wide variety of delicacies. Foreigners inevitably gravitate towards čevapčiči, the burger of the Balkans, best described as oblong meatballs, eaten with fluffy lepinje pitta bread and kajmak cheese. This is not Slovenian, but pan-Balkan, but it is the preferred fast food option here, utterly delicious and appealing to all non-vegetarian palates, and it is the most frequent food ‘discovery’ for visitors. I like to take guests on a čevapčiči crawl, to taste the dish at a series of establishments in a row and determine your favourite. I’m partial to Ajda, Dubočica, Sarajevo ’84 and Saraj, but most locals recommend Čad, a white tablecloth experience in a park on the edge of the city centre. For a more Slovene-specific snack, try Klobasarna, behind the cathedral, which offers only Kranjska klobasa, a geographically-protected local sausage that is worth a journey, served simply, with just a pot of mustard and a warm roll. For those exploring a bit beyond the centre, a full line-up of traditional fare can be found at Pri Vodniku in the Šiška neighbourhood, in the former home of Valentin Vodnik, 18th century author of the first Slovenian cookbook.  Central Market A stroll through Tržnice, the central market, provides a smorgasbord of farm-fresh ingredients. Be sure to sample some sauerkraut from the ever-smiling Marjetka, whose family is among the last in the country to cultivate indigenous Ljubljana Cabbage that, it is said, makes the best sauerkraut (that she’s the only sauerkraut seller with a queue confirms this thesis). Stock up on what’s local, like pumpkinseed oil, made from the only one of the 825 varieties of pumpkins around the world that is suitable for making pumpkin seed oil. It happens to be native to Slovenia, and the nutty, green-ink oil is an eye-opener atop salads and even vanilla ice cream. You might take home a souvenir jewel-coloured grave candle, which is sold from vending machines—I bought a bunch to decorate my first apartment, not realizing that they were grave candles, and thankfully not scaring off my future wife, when she came over for a romantic evening. Street Food On fine weather Fridays, the central market explodes into a huge outdoor food fair called Odprta Kuhna. Founded by Israeli expat Lior Kochavy, it is the best way to sample a wide variety of specialties, as dozens of restaurants, from fancy to down-home, set up stands and offer food truck-style dishes (this is where you can try JB’s take on a burger, made of dry-aged brisket). While most visitors will encounter ubiquitous čevapčiči, oblong grilled meatballs served with fluffy lepinje pitta bread and buttery kajmak cheese, this ‘burger of the Balkans’ is found throughout former Yugoslavia. For the most Slovenian of snacks, try Klobasarna, behind the cathedral, which offers only Kranjska klobasa, a geographically-protected local sausage served simply, with just a pot of mustard and a warm roll.  Coffee and Cakes After your main meal, you’ll be up for dessert, and the best cakes I’ve ever had can be found at Zvezda, a sweet shop with several locations, where locals go to see and be seen, and to consume Slovenian specialties like kremšnita (a mille-feuille cream cake), gibanica (a layer cake with poppy seeds, walnut, curd cheese and apples) and a flurry of house specialties (try the ‘chocolate dream’ cake, čokoladne sanje). Ljubljana has joined the specialty coffee revolution, with the best cup in town served by a Colombian expat architect named Alex at Črno Zrno, a pocket-sized café on Gorni Trg, beyond the lovely medieval bend of main pedestrian thoroughfare called Stari Trg. Other great, stylish cafes can be found in the Modern Art Museum and the City Museum, where the history of Ljubljana is on display. Ljubljana’s Genius Loci Ljubljana, legend has it, was founded where Jason, of Argonauts fame, stopped en route home to slay a dragon, and the Secessionist Dragon Bridge, upon which perch four bronze dragons, is the most-photographed site in the city. The Roman town of Emona grew here, a stop on the trade route between Roman Venice and Budapest, but the city was something of a rural backwater through the Middle Ages, when my adopted hometown, Kamnik, 25 minutes north, was of far more importance. Its importance grew in the 20th century, as did its shape. An 1895 earthquake levelled 15% of the city, but fortune smiled and a young architect, Jože Plečnik, was commissioned to build most of the important structures and spaces in the city. It is rare that one place should have so firm the imprint of a single architect, and thankfully he was a genius, a member of the Royal Society and the darling of in-the-know architectural historians. The best place to g

    17 min
4.9
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10 Ratings

About

This is The Ljubljana podcast, hosted by Slovenia's most enthusiastic expat resident, American professor and best-selling author and Slovenia's Ambassador of Tourism, Noah Charney. Noah hosts the award-winning official podcast for the Slovenian Tourist Organization, "Feel Slovenia," and the official podcast for Bled, "The Bled Podcast" and is the author of Slovenology: Living and Traveling in the World's Best Country" and "Bledology" among more than 20 books. This podcast covers Ljubljana and its surroundings, featuring interviews with fascinating locals and expats. It is produced by Urska Charney and Season 1 is brought to you by Hotel Mrak and Odprta Kuhna.