Inclusion and Disability Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad

Aaron DeVries

Welcome to The Inclusive Dad Podcast, where we explore all things inclusion and make it practical!! Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron Devries a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad

  1. 1d ago

    212 - Systemic Ableism Is Everywhere—Now What? with Jennifer Chassman Browne

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes disability advocate, educator, and speaker Jennifer Chassman Browne for a powerful conversation about moving beyond accessibility and embracing true belonging. Jennifer shares how living with visible arthritis transformed the way others treated her, why good intentions can still exclude people, and how simple shifts in mindset create meaningful inclusion. Together they explore disability etiquette, systemic ableism, accessible design, and the importance of seeing the whole person—not just their disability. This episode will challenge assumptions, spark self-reflection, and inspire listeners to create spaces where everyone genuinely belongs. Key Takeaways: Belonging Matters - Accessibility is important, but true inclusion happens when people feel they genuinely belong. Ask First - Instead of making assumptions, respectfully ask people what they need and listen to their answers. Challenge Assumptions - Visible disabilities should never define someone's identity or determine how others interact with them. Design Intentionally - Thoughtful planning creates environments where everyone has meaningful choices and equal participation. See Whole People - Recognize disability as one part of a person's identity while appreciating their full humanity. Jennifer Chassman Browne’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is creating spaces and experiences for everyone where people, regardless of their disability, their identity, their needs, feel welcome and able to participate. Jennifer Chassman Browne’s Bio: Jenn has lived with Rheumatoid Arthritis since she was six years old.  For most of her professional life, she has been an English teacher and school leader, and has loved the time that she spent with the teenagers that she taught, many of whom she still has in her life. In her work as a DEI and Disability Advocate, Jenn educates people about the strengths and gifts that people with disabilities have.  She also helps people to understand that those living with disabilities need allies, systems, and structures that ensure their access and inclusion. Jenn has also earned certification as a listener poet and is invested in using poetry and storytelling to help build connections between people and to aid in the development of empathy, understanding, and belonging. Jenn is a keynote speaker and writer. She has also written a book, See US, Know Us; Profiles of Disability which is available for pre-order and will be out in October 2026. Connect with Jennifer Chassman Browne: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JenniferChassmanBrowneAuthor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-chassman-browne-97768b24a/ Website: https://jenniferchassmanbrowne.com/ Website: https://newground.us/index.html SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 93 No - 117 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    212 - Systemic Ableism Is Everywhere—Now What? with Jennifer Chassman Browne

  2. 5d ago

    211 - Can a Blind Person Hike, Fish, and Fix a House? Absolutely. with Jeff Skoglund

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Jeff Skoglund, also known as the Blind Outdoorsman, for an honest conversation about life with progressive vision loss, resilience, and practical inclusion. Jeff shares how he adapted after becoming legally blind, how his guide dog helps him navigate everyday life, and why accessibility benefits everyone. From home maintenance and technology to a recent heart attack that highlighted the importance of respectful communication in healthcare, Jeff offers practical insights that challenge assumptions about blindness. This episode reminds us that disability doesn't define potential—it simply changes how we approach life.  Key Takeaways: Challenge Assumptions - Blindness doesn't mean inability—people with vision loss continue living full, independent, and meaningful lives. Accessible Design - Planning for accessibility from the beginning creates better experiences for everyone, not just people with disabilities. Respectful Communication - Asking someone what support they need is one of the simplest and most powerful acts of inclusion. Adaptive Technology - Tools, labels, guide dogs, and accessible technology empower independence in everyday life. Share Your Story - Your experiences may encourage, educate, or inspire someone who needs to hear them today. Jeff Skoglund’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is making sure everyone has an equal opportunity to live their best life without being judged or treated differently for who they are. Jeff Skoglund’s Bio: Jeff Skoglund, known online as BlindOutdoorsman, is a Minnesota-based creator and storyteller who shares life outdoors through his experience with vision loss, humor, resilience, and lived experience. Diagnosed with retinitis pigmentosa, Jeff uses his platform to share real-life accessibility, adaptation, guide dog life with Natty, and outdoor adventures with his wife, Shauna. Through BlindOutdoorsman, Jeff hopes to help people think about vision loss a little differently while showing that life, adventure, and connection do not stop when vision changes. Jeff recently created a Facebook group called Blind & Low Vision Outdoors Minnesota. It’s a community for blind and low-vision people in Minnesota, along with allies, who are interested in getting outdoors through activities like hiking, camping, canoeing, kayaking, fishing, snowshoeing, and other outdoor adventures. Connect with Jeff Skoglund: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61574843205853 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blindoutdoorsman/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Blindoutdoorsman TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@blindoutdoorsman Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1740518473965596/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: Yes Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 93 No - 116 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    211 - Can a Blind Person Hike, Fish, and Fix a House? Absolutely. with Jeff Skoglund

  3. Jul 7

    210 - STOP Making These Special Needs Planning Mistakes! with Mary McDirmid

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes financial planner and parent advocate Mary McDirmid for a practical conversation about preparing for the future of loved ones with disabilities. Drawing from her personal journey raising her daughter with a rare disease, Mary explains special needs trusts, ABLE accounts, and common planning mistakes that can jeopardize essential benefits. Beyond finances, the discussion explores curiosity, respectful conversations, and why inclusion begins with assuming positive intent. Whether you're a parent, caregiver, or advocate, this episode offers actionable guidance to protect your loved one's future while creating a more inclusive and understanding world.  Key Takeaways: Future Planning - Planning early helps families protect benefits, provide long-term care, and reduce uncertainty for loved ones with disabilities. Avoid Costly Mistakes - Simple oversights, like incorrect life insurance beneficiaries, can unintentionally jeopardize disability benefits. Respect Differences - Inclusion grows when we acknowledge our differences, assume positive intent, and remain curious about others' perspectives. Sibling Support - Thoughtful financial planning helps siblings remain siblings instead of carrying unnecessary financial and legal burdens. Accessible Knowledge - Every family deserves access to special needs planning information, regardless of their financial situation. Mary McDirmid’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is acknowledging the tension between our similarities and differences and working through it together. Mary McDirmid’s Bio: When Mary isn’t helping families navigate the world of special needs financial planning, she is being a wife to Jay and a mom to Charlie and Ruth. In addition to her leadership role at All Needs Planning and a volunteer advocate for kids with rare diseases. She takes the title “Mom Boss’ seriously, just ask her! Mary understands the emotional and financial aspects of caring for a loved one with special needs because she is the parent of a child with a rare disease.  Connect with Mary McDirmid: Website: https://allneedsplanning.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AllNeedsPlanning/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allneedsplanning/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AllNeedsPlanning TedX: https://youtu.be/_k6fXNWAHPM?si=pjbUwc_86uQZb6dm Buy her book: https://a.co/d/0dsKxDc6 SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 92 No - 116 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    210 - STOP Making These Special Needs Planning Mistakes! with Mary McDirmid

  4. Jul 3

    209 - The Power of a Mindset Shift: How MS Changed Everything with Dr. Patti Bevilacqua

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron sits down with Dr. Patti Bevilacqua, educator, author, TEDx speaker, and longtime advocate living with multiple sclerosis. Patti shares how her diagnosis reshaped her identity, taught her the power of mindset shifts, and deepened her understanding of inclusion. Together, they explore invisible disabilities, the importance of curiosity over assumptions, and why asking “How can I help?” matters more than taking control. Patti offers practical wisdom on self-advocacy, resilience, kindness, and finding opportunity in life's detours. This conversation is a powerful reminder that everyone carries unseen challenges and deserves to belong. Key Takeaways: Invisible Backpacks - Everyone carries unseen struggles, and approaching others with curiosity instead of assumptions creates deeper understanding. Ask, Don’t Assume - True inclusion begins by asking people what they need rather than deciding for them. Mindset Shifts - Reframing challenges as opportunities can transform how we experience disability and adversity. Redefining Movement - Movement is not only physical; we can move hearts, minds, ideas, and communities. Grace Over Judgment - Being kind to ourselves and others creates space for belonging, dignity, and connection. Dr. Patti Bevilacqua’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is about creating a place where we all get a human experience, where we all get to experience humanity. Dr. Patti Bevilacqua’s Bio: I’m Dr. Patti Bevilacqua—bestselling author, TEDx speaker, and the driving force behind fearLESS with MS. and The Hidden Illness Advocate. In 1989, I stepped into my dream role as a high school PE teacher, passionate about shaping young lives. But just a year later, everything changed. A multiple sclerosis diagnosis forced me to leave the career I loved after only ten years. For over a decade, I felt lost, searching for purpose in a life I never planned. But here’s what I learned: “When life throws challenge your way, you have two choices—let them define you or rise above them. I chose to rise. With resilience, humor, and an unwavering spirit, I transformed my setbacks into stepping stones. I became a speaker, workshop leader, and storyteller, turning my journey into a source of strength for others.” Armed with a Ph.D., I launched MS stands for Mindset Shift and the fearLESS with MS. newsletter, creating a thriving community for those battling hidden illnesses. My story has been shared across 20+ podcasts, including The Hero Within, Chronically Living, and dissolving fear. Now, I dedicate my life to advocating for those with invisible illnesses, helping them shift their mindset, overcome fear, and embrace their inner strength. Because while MS may have changed my path, it never defined my purpose. Connect with Dr. Patti Bevilacqua: Website: https://patti-bevilacqua.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patti-bevilacqua/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fearlesswithms/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fearlesswithms/ Substack: https://pattibevilacqua.substack.com/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: Yes Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 92 No - 115 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    209 - The Power of a Mindset Shift: How MS Changed Everything with Dr. Patti Bevilacqua

  5. Jun 30

    208 - Mindfulness, MS, and Breaking Through Disability Barriers with Regina Beach

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Regina Beach, a disability advocate, writer, and wellness educator living with multiple sclerosis (MS). Regina shares her journey from being an active classroom teacher to navigating life with an acquired disability and redefining what participation, accessibility, and inclusion truly mean. Together, they discuss the realities of living with MS, the importance of designing spaces with access in mind, and how mindfulness, meditation, and adaptive yoga can support mental and physical well-being. Regina also offers practical ways anyone can create more inclusive environments while embracing possibility over limitation. Key Takeaways: Access First - Inclusion starts by designing spaces with accessibility in mind and encouraging people to share their needs. Ask, Don’t Assume - Simple questions about comfort and accommodations can make people feel seen, respected, and included. Redefine Participation - Activities like yoga, dance, and recreation become accessible when we focus on what people can do. Mindful Resilience - Meditation and mindfulness help manage stress, self-criticism, and the emotional challenges of disability. Possibility Mindset - Disability may change how things are done, but it does not eliminate opportunities for meaningful experiences. Regina Beach’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion means making space for everybody's access needs.  Building a space where people feel comfortable articulating, “I need this, can we have this?” Regina Beach’s Bio: Regina Beach is a disabled poet and essayist. Originally from the American midwest, she now calls the Welsh Valleys home. She is a freelance writer and editor passionate about accessibility in the arts. She is the founder of the literary magazine Lesions | Art + Words featuring the work of creators living with chronic conditions. She hosts Writers’ Hour and is the editor of the London Writers' Salon’s Writing in Community anthology. She facilitates creativity workshops for the MS-UK charity and is the producer of the Living Well with MS podcast. Connect with Regina Beach: Website: https://www.reginagbeach.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginabeach/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ReginaBeachCreativeWellbeing/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reginabeach_creativewellbeing/ Substack: https://reginagbeach.substack.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@reginagbeach SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 91 No - 115 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    208 - Mindfulness, MS, and Breaking Through Disability Barriers with Regina Beach

  6. Jun 26

    207 - Why "Being Nice" Isn't Inclusion with Sean Adelman

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Sean Adelman, orthopedic trauma surgeon, author, and father of a daughter with down syndrome. Sean shares how becoming a parent reshaped his understanding of inclusion, success, and happiness. Together, they explore the difference between acceptance and true inclusion, the importance of raising expectations, and why advocacy matters in healthcare, education, and everyday life. Sean discusses the power of seeing possibilities instead of limitations, how families can challenge low expectations, and why meaningful relationships—not professional achievements—have become his greatest measure of success.  Key Takeaways: True Inclusion - Inclusion means actively participating and belonging, not simply being present in the room. Raise Expectations - People are more likely to succeed when others believe in their abilities and provide opportunities to grow. Advocate Fearlessly - Parents and caregivers have both the right and responsibility to ask questions and advocate for their loved ones. Redefining Success - Family relationships, happiness, and positive impact matter more than titles, status, or achievements. Challenge Assumptions - Personal interactions help break down stereotypes and reveal the unique strengths of every individual. Sean Adelman’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is being part of the gang, having somebody that you actually pass the ball to, even if you know they're going to miss versus, stopping the game so that everybody can be inspired by their presence on the court.  Sean Adelman’s Bio: Sean is a Dad first, but also an Orthopedic surgeon and author. Sean currently works as a trauma surgeon but in his time off has written 5 novels and a graphic novel inspired by his life experiences as a surgeon and Father. Devon is a daughter and an athlete.  Devon is a tireless self advocate who is employed and lives independently. Devon spends her free time coaching and working on her fitness goals.  Connect with Sean Adelman: Website: https://www.raiseexpectations.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-adelman-281b854a/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RaiseExpectations Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raiseexpectations SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: Yes Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 91 No - 114 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    207 - Why "Being Nice" Isn't Inclusion with Sean Adelman

  7. Jun 23

    206 - How Organization Can Transform Caregiving and Family Life with Lisa Woodruff

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Lisa Woodruff, founder of Organize 365 and author of Escaping Quicksand, for an honest conversation about caregiving, organization, and self-care. Drawing from her experiences as a teacher, parent of children with IEPs, entrepreneur, and newly minted PhD, Lisa shares practical strategies for managing the invisible load many caregivers carry. Together, they explore the importance of structure, embracing excellence over perfection, honoring different perspectives, and creating sustainable systems that support both caregivers and those they love.  Key Takeaways: Redefining Self-Care - Taking care of yourself isn't selfish—it's essential if you want to sustainably care for others. Embrace Different Perspectives - Inclusion begins by recognizing that other people's experiences and viewpoints are just as valid as our own. Choose Excellence Over Perfection - Progress and effort matter more than doing everything flawlessly. Reduce Cognitive Load - Simple organizational tools, like Lisa's index card system, can free up mental energy and reduce overwhelm. Caregiving Needs Structure - Intentional routines and systems help both caregivers and those receiving care thrive. Lisa Woodruff’s definition of inclusion: Inclusion is knowing that we all are different, have different perspectives, different points of view and together we make a more complete world. Lisa Woodruff’s Bio: Lisa Woodruff is the founder & CEO of Organize 365®. As the host of the top-rated Organize 365 Podcast for more than 11 years, with 25 million downloads & counting, Lisa shares strategies for reducing the overwhelm, clearing the mental clutter, and living a productive and organized life. Her sensible and doable organizing tasks appeal to multiple generations and her candor and relatable style make you feel as though she is right there beside you, helping you get organized as you laugh and cry together. Under Lisa’s direction, Organize 365 has conducted academic research establishing the definitions of housework, home organization and the weight of paper in the American home. This ongoing research is making the invisible work at home visible to all so we can eliminate it and free people from the monotonous tasks of daily living and unlock their time for what they are uniquely created to bring forth in the world.  She is the author of four books including, How ADHD Affects Home Organization and The Paper Solution and was named the Cincinnati Woman Entrepreneur of the Year in 2024. Lisa’s understanding of the lived female American experience has helped her to create products & courses like the Sunday Basket® that externalize the routine tasks that take up the executive functioning capacity of our brains, freeing us up to think and create again, saving owners more than 13 million hours in the last 7 years! Connect with Lisa Woodruff: Website: https://organize365.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisawoodruff/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Organize365 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/organize365/ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/organize-365-podcast/id915355770 Buy Her Book: https://a.co/d/0boejQJb SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: No Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 90 No - 114 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    206 - How Organization Can Transform Caregiving and Family Life with Lisa Woodruff

  8. Jun 19

    205 - Confronting the Isolation Fathers Face in the Disability Community with Jamiel Owens

    In this episode of The Inclusive Dad podcast, host AAron welcomes Jamiel Owens, an autism father, former first responder, and advocate dedicated to supporting families raising children with disabilities. Jamiel shares his deeply personal journey through trauma, fatherhood, divorce, and ultimately healing through vulnerability and community. Together, AAron and Jamiel explore the importance of creating safe spaces for fathers, breaking down silos within the disability community, and embracing inclusion through education, empathy, and connection. This heartfelt conversation reminds listeners that no one is meant to navigate parenting, grief, or advocacy alone.  Key Takeaways: Fatherhood & Healing - Unaddressed trauma can shape how fathers navigate parenting, relationships, and disability journeys. Vulnerability Matters - Sharing personal struggles creates opportunities for deeper connection, support, and growth. Beyond Diagnoses - Families across disability communities have more in common than what separates them. Inclusive Communities - True inclusion happens when we intentionally create spaces where everyone feels welcome. Lead With Love - Choosing compassion and understanding can transform relationships and strengthen families. Jamiel Owens’ definition of inclusion: Inclusion is not only having actionable steps to make things physically inclusive, but it's changing the mentality behind it in order to embrace actions or perspectives that don't need anything tangible to be produced. Jamiel Owens’ Bio: Jamiel Owens is a nationally recognized autism advocate, community leader, and keynote speaker dedicated to transforming how society understands fatherhood, neurodiversity, and family engagement. As an autism father, his work is deeply rooted in lived experience—fueling a mission to build stronger, more informed, and more inclusive communities. Jamiel currently serves as the Family Relations Coordinator at the Center for Autism Research at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, where he works directly with families to bridge gaps in access, education, and support. His professional work is complemented by his leadership in the community, where he has become a powerful voice for underserved families navigating autism. He is the Founder of the Autism Fathers Conference, a growing movement and platform designed to uplift, connect, and empower fathers and caregivers in the autism community. Through this initiative—and events like the Involved and Informed Conference—Jamiel has created spaces where families can engage in honest dialogue, access resources, and build lasting support networks. In addition, he serves on the Board of Directors for Parent to Parent USA, helping guide a national network that supports families of individuals with disabilities through peer support, leadership development, and evidence-based programming. Before stepping into advocacy full-time, Jamiel served as a firefighter, bringing with him a foundation of service, resilience, and commitment to others that continues to shape his work today. Above all, Jamiel Owens is driven by purpose: to ensure that every child, every family, and every caregiver—especially fathers—feels seen, supported, and empowered. Connect with Jamiel Owens: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiel-owens-75a985213/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theausomeshow/ SPAM© Count: Host: Yes Current Guest: Yes Cumulative Guest Stats: Yes - 90 No - 113 ☕ Buy me a Coffee: ⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/theinclusivedad⁠ Subscribe to Podcast Newsletter: ⁠https://www.theinclusivedad.com/podcastupdates⁠ Want to be a guest on Inclusion and Advocacy from a Parent's Perspective: The Inclusive Dad? Send Aaron DeVries a message on PodMatch, here: ⁠https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/theinclusivedad⁠

    205 - Confronting the Isolation Fathers Face in the Disability Community with Jamiel Owens
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