The Unconventional Leadership Podcast

Talent Magnet Institute

The Unconventional Leadership Podcast isn’t just another leadership show — it’s a call to rethink everything. We bring you raw conversations, real wisdom, and stories that go beyond surface success. Each episode features world-class leaders who share their highs, lows, and everything in between — so you can lead with greater courage, clarity, and purpose. If you’re ready to ditch the status quo, unleash your team's full potential, and build a legacy that matters, you’re in the right place. It’s time to lead differently. It’s time to lead unconventionally.

  1. Why This Leader’s Company Pays 100% of Employee Healthcare Costs?

    FEB 19

    Why This Leader’s Company Pays 100% of Employee Healthcare Costs?

    Connect & ask your leadership question here: https://www.talentmagnet.com/contactus Season 3, Episode 242 Why This CEO Pays 100% of Employee Healthcare Costs? (feat. Bob Heil & Mike Sipple Jr.) In a business arena where most companies struggle with retention, what if the secret to loyalty is radical generosity? In this episode I sit down with Bob Heil, Executive Director of Strategic Relationships and Community Engagement at KLH Engineers, Executive Director of LaunchNKY Center for Civic Leadership, and past Board Chair of BENKY, NKY Chamber, OneNKY Alliance, amongst others. Bob reveals why his company, KLH Engineers, pays 100% of medical insurance for employees and their families—a benefit less than 1% of companies offer. Bob and Mike discuss the power of "Unconventional Leadership" by challenging existing paradigms in business, education, and government. From the "hand on the shoulder" mentorship moments that define careers to the "Creative Tension" required to drive innovation, this episode is a masterclass in servant leadership and community building. Learn all about Launch NKY and why Bob is so deeply passionate about civic leadership and encouraging you to ask someone to participate in leveling up our community. In this episode, we cover: Radical Employee Benefits: Why KLH pays 100% of medical for employees and families.Creative Tension: Using the rubber band analogy to bridge the gap between reality and vision.Civic Leadership: The formation of the OneNKY Alliance and breaking down regional silos.The "Splendid Torch:" Why Bob Heil refuses to retire and his philosophy on legacy.LaunchNKY: A new program designed to place leaders on boards and commissions. 🔗 Links and Resources: - Connect with Bob Heil: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-heil-06148610/ - Learn more about KLH Engineers: https://www.nku.edu/launchnky.html - Explore the OneNKY Alliance: https://onenkyalliance.com/ - Check out and learn: https://www.nku.edu/launchnky.html ___ Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C ___ Connect with the Mike Sipple, Jr! LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejr LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr ___ Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute ___ Connect with the Centennial on LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc

    1h 5m
  2. Why Great Leaders Start With Sleep, Not Strategy

    FEB 5

    Why Great Leaders Start With Sleep, Not Strategy

    Connect & ask your leadership question here: https://www.talentmagnet.com/contactus Signup for Relentless 2800: https://www.relentless2800.com Season 3, Episode 241 Why Great Leaders Start With Sleep, Not Strategy (feat. Jessica Morris AND JONBOB Willis) What if the biggest limiter of your leadership effectiveness isn’t skill, strategy, or experience—but exhaustion? In this powerful and deeply human conversation, Mike Sipple Jr. is joined by Jessica Morris, executive health coach and wellness expert, and JONBOB Willis, creative entrepreneur and community builder, to unpack what holistic leadership really looks like in practice. From sleep deprivation and burnout to margin, community, and purpose-driven creativity, this episode reframes leadership through the lens of well-being. The group explores why sleep is the cornerstone of peak performance, how leaders unknowingly model burnout for their teams, and why psychological safety begins with asking better questions—like “What’s feeling heavy right now?” instead of “How are you?” They also dive into JONBOB’s community-driven initiatives like The Simple Portrait Project and Relentless 2800, illustrating how margin, play, and connection fuel creativity and resilience—both personally and organizationally. This episode is a masterclass in human-centered, unconventional leadership for executives, founders, and anyone responsible for leading people. In this episode, we cover: - Sleep as a Leadership Skill: Why sleep is the foundation of emotional regulation, decision-making, and resilience - Burnout Warning Signs: How stress shows up physically, emotionally, and relationally before leaders notice it - The “At Your Best” Framework: Defining how you think, feel, and operate when you’re fully aligned - Psychological Safety: How asking better questions transforms trust, engagement, and performance - Margin & Creativity: Why protecting margin unlocks innovation and courage - Community as Fuel: Lessons from The Simple Portrait Project and Relentless 2800 - Athlete Mindset for Leaders: Treating leadership like elite performance—with rest, recovery, and discipline - Unconventional Leadership Defined: Leading holistically, human-first, and without waiting for permission 🔗 Links and Resources: - Connect with Jessica Morris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamorrisky Health Coach with Vytalize Health, Health Coach & Wellness Leader & Founder of RYTT Solutions - Connect with JONBOB Willis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonbobdotcom Relentless 2800: JOIN or start a team TODAY https://www.relentless2800.com Simple Portrait Project: https://www.thesimpleportraitproject.com ___ Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C ___ Connect with the Mike Sipple, Jr! LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejr LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr ___ Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute ___ Connect with the Centennial on LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc

    1h 10m
  3. 2026 Is Coming Fast — Leaders Are Already Shifting Their Approach

    JAN 22

    2026 Is Coming Fast — Leaders Are Already Shifting Their Approach

    Season 3, Episode 240 How do you stay relevant in the 2026 leadership shift? (feat. Jennifer McClure, Steve Browne, James Biro, & Mike Sipple Jr.) By the end of 2026, the world will look completely different due to massive change and AI integration. Mike and his guests discuss how to stay agile and current in a rapidly evolving market. Explore how to retool your approach to meet the changing expectations of the modern workforce and maintain your thought leadership. 🔗 Links and Resources: * Connect with Jennifer McClure: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifermcclure/ * Connect with Steve Browne: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevebrownphr/ * Connect with James Biro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-biro-683b901 ___ Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C ___ Connect with the Mike Sipple, Jr! LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejr LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr ___ Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute ___ Connect with the Centennial on LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc

    1h 16m
  4. Entrepreneurial Leadership: The Classroom Skills Most Companies Are Missing

    JAN 8

    Entrepreneurial Leadership: The Classroom Skills Most Companies Are Missing

    What separates leaders people trust from leaders people tolerate? In this episode of The Unconventional Leadership Podcast, Mike Sipple Jr. is joined by Dr. Jeni Al Bahrani (Miami University), and student leaders/Teaching Assistants CJ DeBra and Sarah Bosse to unpack what “trusted advisor” leadership looks like in real life—especially when you’re leading peers, giving feedback, and trying to create a culture where people can learn without fear. You’ll hear practical leadership lessons for managers, HR leaders, and anyone trying to build a high-trust team: - How to give actionable feedback without damaging relationships - Why “microfailures” can build confidence and resilience - What it looks like to lead yourself first (before you lead others) - How to manage up and communicate with clarity If you care about team culture, employee experience, and developing leaders who can handle tough conversations… this one’s for you. 🔗 Links and Resources: Connect with Dr. Jeni Al Bahrani: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjenialbahrani Connect with CJ DeBra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debracj- Connect with Sarah Bosse: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahbosse Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C_ Connect with the Mike Sipple, Jr!LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejrLinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute Connect with the Centennial on LinkedIn:➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc

    1h 14m
  5. Family Business Secrets Nobody Talks About

    10/16/2025

    Family Business Secrets Nobody Talks About

    Connect & ask your leadership question here: Take the FREE Self-Care Inventory Quiz: Season 3, Episode 238 Family Business Secrets Nobody Talks About (feat. Jonathan Theders & Mike Sipple Jr.) How do we build something meaningful—and know when it’s time to let go? In this episode of The Unconventional Leadership Podcast, we explore the tension between legacy and innovation, and why resisting change could leave your business behind. If you're navigating succession, stewardship, or strategic pivots, this one’s for you. 🔗 Links and Resources: - Connect with Jonathan Theders: Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C Connect with the Mike Sipple, Jr! LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejr LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute Connect with the Centennial on LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc Produced by the Cincinnati Podcast Studio Creating a high-quality DIY video podcast is complicated. Cincinnati Podcast Studio simplifies video podcast production so you can just show up and share your message, creating true fans while establishing your authority and building trust. Are you in the Greater Cincinnati area and interested in starting your own podcast? Book a Tour Today ➡ http://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com/tmi Learn more about the Cincinnati Podcast Studio: ➡ https://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com

    1h 18m
  6. How Do Leaders Turn Adversity Into Legacy?

    10/02/2025

    How Do Leaders Turn Adversity Into Legacy?

    Connect & ask your leadership question here: Take the FREE Self-Care Inventory Quiz: https://www.talentmagnet.com/quiz Season 3, Episode 237 How Do Leaders Turn Adversity Into Legacy? (feat. Doug Olberding & Lily Parke with Mike Sipple Jr.) In this inspiring episode of the Unconventional Leadership Podcast, Doug Olberding (CEO of Pig Works) and Lily Parke (Beechwood High School Intern, D1 commit, UK cross-country/track) join Mike Sipple Jr. to share stories of leadership, resilience, and community. From the impact of the Flying Pig Marathon on Cincinnati’s economy and culture, to Lily’s perspective as a young athlete, to overcoming personal adversity and creating legacy, this conversation highlights how unconventional leaders listen, adapt, and turn challenges into opportunities. If you’re passionate about leadership, team building, or leading with purpose in HR, human resources, and beyond—this is a must-listen. 🔗 Links and Resources: - Connect with Doug Olberding: https://www.pigworks.org and https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougolberding/ ___ Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C ___ Connect with the Mike Sipple, Jr! LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejr LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr ___ Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute ___ Connect with the Centennial on LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc ___ Produced by the Cincinnati Podcast Studio Creating high-quality a DIY video podcast is complicated. Cincinnati Podcast Studio simplifies video podcast production so you can just show up and share your message, creating true fans while establishing your authority and building trust. Are you in the Greater Cincinnati area and interested in starting your own podcast? Book a Tour Today ➡ http://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com/tmi Learn more about the Cincinnati Podcast Studio: ➡ https://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com

    1h 1m
  7. Can Unreasonable Hospitality Save Your Culture?

    08/07/2025

    Can Unreasonable Hospitality Save Your Culture?

    Connect & ask your leadership question here: https://www.talentmagnet.com/contactus Take the FREE Self-Care Inventory Quiz: https://www.talentmagnet.com/quiz Season 3, Episode 236 Can Unreasonable Hospitality Save Your Culture? (feat. Lee Crume & Mike Sipple Jr.) Welcome to another transformational episode of the Unconventional Leadership Podcast. In this one, Lee Crume, CEO of BE NKY, shares how Unreasonable Hospitality reshaped employee experience, innovation, and team culture in Northern Kentucky. We go deep on building an ecosystem mindset, cultivating staff voice, and designing a community‑centric strategy to attract high‑impact investment and support regional growth. What you'll learn: • How to turn hospitality lessons into leadership culture • Why “hire slow, fire fast” is more than a phrase • Transforming client and candidate touchpoints through purpose‑driven process • Designing a five‑star client experience from parking lot greetings to plant tours • The philosophy of making your leadership *obsolete* through empowerment • Building spaces and ecosystems that drive collaboration and innovation in your community 🔗 Links and Resources: - Connect with Lee Crume: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crumelee - BE NKY: https://be-nky.com ___ Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C ___ Connect with Mike Sipple, Jr! LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejr LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr ___ Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute ___ Connect with Centennial on LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc ___ Produced by the Cincinnati Podcast Studio Cincinnati Podcast Studio simplifies video podcast production. Whether you're in Greater Cincinnati or planning high‑quality content, we make it easy so you can just focus on your message. Book a Tour Today ➡ http://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com/tmi Learn about the Cincinnati Podcast Studio ➡ https://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com

    57 min
  8. What If You Just Went For It?

    07/31/2025

    What If You Just Went For It?

    Connect & ask your leadership question here: https://www.talentmagnet.com/contactus Take the FREE Self-Care Inventory Quiz: https://www.talentmagnet.com/quiz Season 3, Episode 235 What If You Just Went For It? (feat. Emma Adkisson & Mike Sipple Jr.) Emma Adkisson shares the powerful story behind becoming CEO of a 45-year-old architecture firm...and the growth that came with it. From honoring the legacy of a dying founder to reshaping workplace culture, Emma breaks down what it means to lead with courage, clarity, and creativity. If you've ever doubted your ability to lead differently, this episode is your permission slip. 🔗 Links and Resources: - Connect with Emma Adkisson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-adkisson-22528b37 - Check out Emboss Design: https://embossdesign.com ___ Subscribe & Listen to more content here: ➡️ Web: https://www.talentmagnet.com/podcast ➡️ YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGtiiP79wCZ2ALPztpr-7XWMl7uQUFRvB ➡️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unconventional-leadership-podcast/id1378659047 ➡️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4O6tNE9H2cuWba5Ovnum8C ___ Connect with the Mike Sipple, Jr! LinkTree: ➡ https://www.linktr.ee/mikesipplejr LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikesipplejr ___ Connect with the Talent Magnet Institute! YouTube: ➡ https://www.youtube.com/@talentmagnetinstitute LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/talentmagnetinstitute ___ Connect with the Centennial on LinkedIn: ➡ https://www.linkedin.com/company/centennial-inc ___ Produced by the Cincinnati Podcast Studio Creating high-quality a DIY video podcast is complicated. Cincinnati Podcast Studio simplifies video podcast production so you can just show up and share your message, creating true fans while establishing your authority and building trust. Are you in the Greater Cincinnati area and interested in starting your own podcast? Book a Tour Today ➡ http://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com/tmi Learn more about the Cincinnati Podcast Studio: ➡ https://cincinnatipodcaststudio.com

    58 min
5
out of 5
73 Ratings

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The Unconventional Leadership Podcast isn’t just another leadership show — it’s a call to rethink everything. We bring you raw conversations, real wisdom, and stories that go beyond surface success. Each episode features world-class leaders who share their highs, lows, and everything in between — so you can lead with greater courage, clarity, and purpose. If you’re ready to ditch the status quo, unleash your team's full potential, and build a legacy that matters, you’re in the right place. It’s time to lead differently. It’s time to lead unconventionally.