The Business Of Marketing

Content Monsta | A. Lee Judge

The Business of Marketing podcast discusses how to win in the current marketing landscape. Hosted by A. Lee Judge, Digital Marketing Consultant along with a Mastermind Group of professional marketers. Stay up to date and sharp on your marketing knowledge while learning from these experienced marketers.

  1. 09/22/2025

    Building a Unified B2B Revenue Team with Andrei Zinkevich

    Marketing is facing a crisis of credibility and alignment, as legacy systems and outdated KPIs have led to internal silos and a disconnect from revenue goals. In this episode,  Andrei Zinkevich of FullFunnel.io and A. Lee Judge, Sales and Marketing Consultant, explore how marketing and sales leaders can rebuild trust, align around shared metrics, and adopt a unified revenue team approach to drive meaningful business outcomes.  Misalignment within marketing and between marketing and salesImportance of shared KPIs and revenue team structuresChallenges and solutions in marketing attributionUsing AI effectively in enterprise sales and marketingStrategies for CMOs to survive and lead changeTime Stamps01:15 - Introduction and overview of the funnel debate06:40 - Internal marketing misalignment and KPI silos18:50 - Revenue team KPIs and sales pipeline velocity30:10 - Account selection and accelerating funnel velocity42:00 - Attribution challenges and blended models58:30 - AI use cases and limitations in B2B marketing01:10:00 - Upcoming webinar and change management for CMOs  Main Takeaways Marketing must shift from chasing vanity metrics to aligning with sales on revenue-driving KPIs. Attribution should be approached as a blended model combining self-reported data, analytics, and customer interviews. AI is useful for content optimization and sales research but lacks the trust and maturity to replace human teams. Subscribe and share this episode to help others align marketing and sales for better revenue outcomes.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

    39 min
  2. 09/16/2025

    Why Speed and Scale Are Killing Your Marketing with Robert Rose

    The episode explores how marketers can shift their mindset from focusing on content containers to prioritizing storytelling and strategic content creation. Lee Judge and Robert Rose discuss the evolving role of content marketing in the age of AI, the pitfalls of over-measuring, and the importance of valuable friction in marketing processes.  Shifting from container-first to story-first content creationThe myth and misuse of marketing measurementAI's impact on content marketing and the resurgence of human-created contentChallenges CMOs face with attribution and proving valueValuable friction and the importance of slowing down to improve content qualityTimecodes00:00 - Get Out of "Container First" Mentality: Start with Story01:00 - Introducing Robert Rose & the Value of Thought Leadership03:08 - Measurement Myths: Marketers Should Measure Less, Do More05:34 - Risk vs. Numbers: Incremental vs. Bold Marketing Moves09:03 - The Cracker Barrel Logo Fiasco & The Value of Attention11:27 - Attention vs. Long-Term Brand Value in Marketing15:35 - CMOs & the Attribution Challenge: Budget, Brand, & Measurement19:12 - Corporate Measurement Culture: Agreement vs. Accuracy24:05 - AI’s Impact: Human Content Marketing Renaissance?27:56 - Why Content Marketing Research Still Focuses on Text32:26 - Repurposing Content: Story-First Approach Over Containers34:50 - Valuable Friction: Slowing Down for Better Content Creation40:23 - Where to Find Robert’s Book & Closing Remarks  Main Takeaways Start with the story, not the container—content should drive the format, not the other way around. Measurement is often flawed and overemphasized; agreement on what success looks like is more important than accuracy. AI can enhance creativity but should be used to deepen, not replace, human insight and storytelling. Subscribe, share the episode, and visit valuablefriction.com to learn more about Robert Rose's new book.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

    41 min
  3. 09/02/2025

    How AI is Reshaping Your SEO Strategy with Andy Crestodina

    The episode explores how AI is reshaping SEO and content strategy, emphasizing the need for marketers to adapt their websites and messaging to train AI effectively. Lee Judge and Andy Crestodina discuss how AI-powered search changes user behavior, the importance of co-occurrence and proximity of keywords, and how brands can optimize their content to influence AI-generated results.  Training AI through strategic website copy and keyword proximityShifts in SEO due to AI-powered search and user behaviorOptimizing key website pages for AI discoverability and decision-makingThe role of content formats like video and audio in brand visibilityBalancing content quantity and quality in the AI eraTime Stamps01:10 - Introduction to AI's impact on SEO06:45 - How AI selects and ranks content15:30 - Optimizing key pages for AI training24:00 - Prompt reverse engineering and content strategy35:20 - Importance of co-occurrence and keyword proximity45:00 - Broader content strategy beyond websites55:10 - Human-centric content and performance metrics01:10:00 - Predictions for AI and search in the next year  Main Takeaways You're not just writing for humans—you're writing training data for AI. AI optimization requires adding job titles, credentials, and comparison content to key pages. Co-occurrence of brand and industry terms across trusted sources boosts AI visibility.  Subscribe, share the episode, and visit contentmonsta.com for more insights.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

    42 min
  4. 08/26/2025

    From ChatGPT to Local AI: Practical Tips for Marketers with Christopher Penn

    With AI rapidly evolving, marketers face both new opportunities and pressing concerns about data privacy, search optimization, and content creation. Christopher Penn breaks down the rise of local AI models, their implications for privacy and data control, and how generative AI will reshape marketing strategies. The conversation offers actionable advice on making content accessible to AI, the continued importance of strong SEO, and creative techniques for maximizing the impact of AI-generated content. The rise and advantages of local/offline AI models for privacy and controlImplications for data security and regulatory compliance in sensitive industriesThe necessity of making marketing data well-exposed for AI agents and search enginesThe future of SEO as "Search Everywhere Optimization" in an omnichannel, AI-driven landscapeCreative approaches to AI prompt engineering for more original marketing contentTime Stamps 0:00 - How marketers should respond to AI disruption2:31 - What are local/open AI models and why use offline AI?5:58 - Tiny AI models for smart devices explained8:07 - Privacy, data retention, and when to use local AI10:51 - On-premise AI for regulated industries12:03 - Consumer AI apps & privacy-preserving APIs13:45 - Where do small AI models get their data?16:07 - The business opportunity: exposing your business to AI18:46 - Visibility, Cloudflare, and AI search bots20:19 - How missing website data excludes you from AI-driven decisions22:50 - Paid AI models, memory, and the risks/benefits of personalization25:48 - SEO, grounded search, and why making content for people still matters28:18 - Search Everywhere Optimization: distribute content everywhere30:12 - "Add a Banana": Prompt engineering for creativity in generative AI36:23 - Where to follow Christopher Penn, his book, and newsletterMain Takeaways “If you’re a marketer and you’re panicking about what to do, do a good job with SEO and also make content people actually give a shit about.” — Prioritize substance and discoverability; strong SEO remains foundational, but meaningful content stands out.Local AI models offer marketers and businesses unprecedented control over data privacy, allowing AI usage without risking sensitive information leaving their premises.To succeed in the age of generative AI, marketers must ensure their content (including pricing and data) is easily accessible for both humans and AI agents, embracing an omnichannel approach and optimizing for every search surface—not just traditional engines.After finishing this episode, subscribe to the Business of Marketing podcast for more forward-thinking insights, and share this episode with your marketing colleagues to spark new strategies for thriving in an AI-driven future. A. Lee Judge is the host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - Content Monsta specializes in podcast production and innovative remote video production, empowering businesses to create professional content and achieve their marketing goals.

    39 min
  5. 07/29/2025

    "Red Flags" for B2B Podcasters - Podcast Company Owners Tell All (with Katie Brinkley)

    This episode explores the strategic value of podcasting for businesses and personal brands, offering expert insights on how to launch, structure, and promote a podcast effectively. Lee Judge and Katie Brinkley discuss common misconceptions, content repurposing, and the importance of aligning podcast goals with broader marketing strategies.  Determining the purpose and format of a podcastCommon mistakes and red flags when starting a podcastStrategies for promoting and repurposing podcast contentUsing AI and multilingual tools to expand podcast reachMeasuring podcast success and securing sponsorshipsTime Stamps0:00 - Introduction of podcast production company experts5:04 - Podcasting for Businesses: Common Questions and Starting Points6:56 - Podcast Formats: Solo, Co-Hosted, Interview, and Purpose9:16 - Importance of Pre-Interviews and Knowing Your Podcast’s Why11:04 - Creating Content for Repurposing Beyond Just Audio14:19 - Marketing & Promoting Your Podcast: Social Media and Email19:17 - Leveraging AI: Reaching New Audiences with Podcast Content24:22 - Agency Insights: Podcasting Red Flags and Client Expectations31:34 - Measuring Podcast Success: Quality Over Quantity39:59 - Sponsorship Strategies & Final Takeaways Main Takeaways Know the purpose of your podcast before launching—whether it's for lead generation, thought leadership, or networking.A podcast is a content-generating machine that can fuel your entire marketing strategy.Success isn't about massive downloads but about reaching the right audience with valuable content.Subscribe and share this episode with anyone considering launching a podcast for their business.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

    42 min
  6. 07/22/2025

    Why Marketers Must Master Visual Design to Drive Business Results with Jim MacLeod

    The episode explores the intersection of design and marketing, emphasizing the importance of visual communication that drives business outcomes rather than just aesthetic appeal. A. Lee Judge and guest Jim MacLeod, author of The Visual Marketer, discuss how marketers can leverage design principles and professional tools to create visuals that are both effective and aligned with business goals.  The role of design in driving marketing outcomesDifferences between art and design in business contextsPsychology and science behind effective visual communicationChoosing between professional and consumer-grade design toolsHow AI is reshaping design roles and responsibilitiesTime Stamps 00:40 - Introduction to the importance of design in marketing 04:15 - Jim MacLeod's background and career journey 10:30 - The science behind visual design and readability 18:45 - Art vs. design: understanding the business purpose25:00 - Tools: Pro software vs. consumer-grade platforms 36:20 - The Visual Marketer book and its purpose  Main Takeaways Design is not just about beauty—it's about guiding users to take specific actions.Art says something different to everyone; design says the same thing to everyone.Marketers must understand visual hierarchy and design principles to create effective content.Subscribe and share this episode to help others bridge the gap between design and marketing.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

    23 min
  7. 07/15/2025

    Winning LinkedIn Strategies for B2B Professionals with Neal Schaffer

    The episode explores how B2B professionals can strategically use LinkedIn to build authentic engagement, optimize their profiles, and leverage AI to enhance content creation and visibility. Lee Judge and guest Neal Schaffer dive into the nuances of LinkedIn's evolving features, including newsletters, carousels, and video, while emphasizing the importance of intentionality and audience alignment in content strategy.  Optimizing LinkedIn profiles for alignment with current goals and audienceUsing AI effectively for content creation and profile enhancementBest practices for LinkedIn newsletters and content formatsUnderstanding engagement trends and algorithmic behaviorGrowth hacking and ethical considerations in LinkedIn outreachTime Stamps 01:10 - Importance of LinkedIn for B2B professionals 05:45 - Optimizing your LinkedIn profile 4:30 - Using AI to improve LinkedIn content 33:00 - The good, bad, and ugly of AI on LinkedIn 46:20 - LinkedIn newsletters and content formats 01:05:00 - Video content and algorithmic trends 01:18:00 - Engagement decline and growth strategies 01:30:00 - Neal’s books and final thoughts  Main Takeaways AI should assist, not replace, your voice—context and training data are key to effective use.LinkedIn newsletters and carousels offer high engagement when content is platform-native and shareable.Engagement should be meaningful and aligned with your target audience, not driven by vanity metrics.Subscribe to the podcast and share it with your network to help others master LinkedIn marketing.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

    48 min
  8. 07/08/2025

    How to Build a Revenue Machine by Aligning Sales and Marketing with Bruce Scheer

    The episode explores how aligning sales, marketing, and product teams through a unified go-to-market narrative can drive better revenue outcomes and improve the customer experience. A. Lee Judge and Bruce Scheer discuss the importance of storytelling, internal alignment, and reducing friction in the buying journey to close more deals and retain customers.  Defining and aligning around a go-to-market strategyThe power of a unified sales and marketing narrativeChallenges in measuring marketing and sales effectivenessThe importance of buyer experience and reducing frictionBeing audacious and innovative in marketing leadershipTime Stamps 01:15 - Evolution of the podcast and guest introduction 04:20 - Defining go-to-market strategy 10:45 - Aligning internal teams through narrative 18:30 - Measuring success and revenue alignment 26:50 - The role of AI in research and decision-making 33:10 - The need for audacity in marketing 41:00 - The Value Pros mission and buyer experience  Main Takeaways A strong, unified narrative aligns teams and drives better go-to-market execution.59% of B2B buying decisions are influenced by the buying experience, not just the product.Pipeline equals permission—consistent results give marketers the freedom to innovate.Subscribe, share the episode, and connect with Bruce Scheer and Lee Judge on LinkedIn for more insights.  A. Lee Judge is the creator and host of The Business of Marketing podcast.Please follow the podcast on your favorite podcast listening platform. This podcast is produced by Content Monsta - A leading producer of B2B Content.

    44 min
5
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The Business of Marketing podcast discusses how to win in the current marketing landscape. Hosted by A. Lee Judge, Digital Marketing Consultant along with a Mastermind Group of professional marketers. Stay up to date and sharp on your marketing knowledge while learning from these experienced marketers.