The InDependent Spouse | The Military Spouse & Partner Podcast

Jess Sands : Podcast Host, Business Owner and military wife

Empowering UK Military Spouses: The InDependent Spouse Podcast. Looking for inspiration, deployment support, and community as a military spouse or partner? The InDependent Spouse podcast is your go-to space for real stories, practical tips, and a thriving network navigating modern UK armed forces family life. Host Jess Sands chats with incredible military spouses and UK military wives who are overcoming the unique challenges of the patch to achieve amazing things. Alongside the podcast, Jess is the founder of the Milspo® Network—a thriving community of over 2,000 spouses, partners, and "other halves" dedicated to military spouse entrepreneurship and building epic businesses that thrive. Milspo is a certified social enterprise built by military spouses, for military spouses. Whether you are looking for military family support, business inspiration, or just want to hear from others who truly understand military life, this podcast is here to empower you both personally and professionally. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. 4d ago ·  Video

    From Spare Room to Seven Figures | Lindsay Compton | Ep 86

    In 2019, Lindsay Compton started a business in her magnolia spare room, with a baby in tow and her husband about to deploy. Today, Canny Comms is a seven-figure company with a team of 14, translating complex science and engineering for clients across defence and security. Lindsay joins Jess Sands to share how she landed her first big contract the week of the first lockdown, why she's always hired military spouses (wherever in the world they're posted), doing an MBA through pregnancy and deployment, and keeping the business running through breast cancer treatment. Plus brilliant practical advice on outsourcing, building systems so your business can run without you, and getting your business noticed. As Lindsay says: "Sometimes out of more difficult situations, you do more brilliant things because you have to." 00:00 Welcome to Series 8 01:11 Meet Lindsay Compton, founder of Canny Comms 02:10 Starting a business with a baby and a deployment 04:54 Her first big contract, the week of lockdown 06:55 When to start outsourcing 09:54 Why she employs military spouses 14:36 "Out of difficult situations, you do more brilliant things" 16:01 The default parent and the guilt of going back to work 22:00 If your business idea keeps coming back 24:59 Why your network is the plan B that always works 27:37 Heropreneurs and an MBA at Warwick 31:32 Keeping the business going through cancer treatment 37:48 First steps to getting your business noticed 43:27 Why you're most valued by people who can't do what you do 45:35 Doing the brave thing 47:11 Reputation Masterclass 2027 and where to find Lindsay Find Lindsay on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cannycompton Got a business idea that keeps coming back to you? Come and tell us about it in the Milspo Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MILSPO About The InDependent Spouse Honest conversations with UK military spouses and partners, hosted by Jess Sands. Part of the Milspo® Network CIC, a volunteer-run social enterprise supporting over 2,000 military spouses, partners and other halves. Join the Milspo Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MILSPO Jess's book, Building Business Beyond the Magnolia Box: https://amzn.eu/d/bt1odyI Sign up for the newsletter: https://www.milspo.co.uk/newsletter More episodes: https://milspo.co.uk/podcast Support our work: https://milspo.co.uk/ Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  2. Oct 23 ·  Video

    Does the MOD Value Military Families? | Calvin Bailey MP Minister for Veterans & People | Ep 85

    For years you've asked me to get someone from the MOD on the podcast, so I'm chuffed to welcome Calvin Bailey MP, Minister for Veterans and People. I ask him the questions military families want answered: are we undervalued, are we part of the conversation as the world feels less stable, and why is there no day that celebrates military spouses and partners? Calvin draws on his 25 years in the RAF and his own family's experience, and opens up about what he wishes he'd known, from never talking to his wife Melanie about his pension to discovering his children's service child benefits after he'd left. He talks about transition for the whole family, not just the serving person, and why "you are always in the room". And when I ask for more recognition for military families, his answer is: challenge accepted. 00:00 Meet Calvin Bailey, Minister for Veterans and People 01:03 Cadets, serving and veterans: one journey 02:52 Why families need their own timeline 06:06 Are military families undervalued? 09:18 The benefits families don't hear about 12:11 Are families part of the security conversation? 15:10 Bringing his own family's experience into the job 18:25 What he wants to change, and transitioning the whole family 22:15 Could we have a Military Family Day? 24:42 Why service depends on families at home 26:32 Missing the RAF and why he went into politics Got a question you'd like me to put to the MOD next time? Share it in the Milspo Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MILSPO About The InDependent Spouse Honest conversations with UK military spouses and partners, hosted by Jess Sands. Part of the Milspo® Network CIC, a UK based social enterprise supporting over 2,000 military spouses, partners and other halves. Join the Milspo Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MILSPO Jess's book, Building Business Beyond the Magnolia Box: https://amzn.eu/d/bt1odyI Sign up for the newsletter: https://www.milspo.co.uk/newsletter More episodes: https://milspo.co.uk/podcast Support our work: https://milspo.co.uk/ Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  3. Oct 6 ·  Video

    Fast Jet Pilot to Business Owner | Helen Lunnon-Wood | Ep 84

    One of very few women flying fast jets in the late 90’s, Helen Lunnon-Wood spent 27 years in the RAF, married into it too, and now runs her own coaching business, High Flight. She joins Jess Sands to talk about life as a dual-serving couple, being both hypervisible and invisible as a woman in the cockpit, and why she proudly puts her maternity leave on her LinkedIn. Helen also shares what it was like working in career management, deciding who gets sent away on deployment while raising a young family herself, plus her work as a trustee of Icarus, a charity supporting veterans and their families with mental health. An honest, funny and thought-provoking listen for military spouses, partners and veterans thinking about what comes next. 00:00 Welcome to Series 8 01:10 Meet Helen: fast jet pilot, veteran, spouse and business owner 02:43 Joining the RAF, then marrying into it 05:15 Life as a dual-serving couple 09:51 Career management: deciding who deploys 16:00 Meeting her younger self from Cranwell, 1998 18:19 Hypervisible and invisible: a woman in a fast jet cockpit 26:45 Having children and taking a career break 28:51 Why her maternity leave is on her LinkedIn 35:52 "Have you found peace?" and finding your why 39:05 High Flight: coaching, leadership and teamwork 40:40 Icarus: support for veterans and their families 43:51 Spouse, veteran or business owner? 46:51 Her first-step advice for going self-employed 49:54 Finding her tribe in the Milspo community About The InDependent Spouse Honest conversations with UK military spouses and partners, hosted by Jess Sands. Part of the Milspo Network CIC, a social enterprise supporting over 2,000 military spouses, partners and other halves. Join the Milspo Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MILSPO Jess's book, Building Business Beyond the Magnolia Box: https://amzn.eu/d/bt1odyI Sign up for the newsletter: https://www.milspo.co.uk/newsletter More episodes: https://milspo.co.uk/podcast Support our work: https://milspo.co.uk/ Icarus Mental Health Support for Veterans https://www.icaruscharity.org/ Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  4. Sep 23 ·  Video

    Military Spouses: The Hidden Advantage | Heledd Kendrick | Ep 83

    Welcome back to The InDependent Spouse podcast and the start of series 8! In this episode, we're turning the clock back to look at where military spouse employment support really began, and just how far things have come since 2011 and 2018. Host Jess Sands sits down with Heledd Kendrick, founder of Recruit for Spouses, to talk about building a purpose-led organisation from scratch, challenging some seriously outdated stereotypes along the way, and why looking after military spouses isn't just good for families - it's good for workforces and defence too. Heledd shares how RFS grew from a simple idea into a foundation offering coaching, mentoring, wellbeing support and employer education. She's refreshingly honest about the lessons too: resilience, imposter syndrome, the power of networking, and how to keep going when business and military life collide. Key topics In this episode, Heledd explains how Recruit for Spouses began in 2011 after she searched for military spouse jobs and found almost nothing available.She shares how early assumptions about military spouses, especially that they would not work or could only do certain roles, shaped her motivation to create change.Jess and Heledd discuss how the pandemic accelerated remote working and helped shift perceptions of military spouses in the workplace.Heledd makes the case that military spouses bring adaptability, resilience, and commercial value to employers, from small businesses to large companies like Virgin.She explains the importance of moving beyond pity-based narratives and instead showing the contribution military families make to operational effectiveness and defence.Heledd reflects on imposter syndrome, including ice baths, stand-up comedy, and singing from Les Misérables as part of a confidence course.She shares a difficult financial moment when payroll was due and the business had only £2,000 in the bank, showing the reality behind growth.The conversation explores why a clear North Star matters, including having a big vision even when the first goal feels small.Heledd outlines RFS’s work supporting spouses into employment, including coaching and mentoring, wellbeing support, and work with foreign and Commonwealth spouses.Jess and Heledd talk about networking as a practical skill, with Heledd sharing how late-night events and simple follow-up habits have led to real opportunities. Timestamps 00:38 — Heledd returns as Jess’s first guest and introduces RFS 01:51 — Being the original military spouse employment advocate 02:37 — The Google search that found no spouse jobs 04:28 — Community support that sparked the mission 06:27 — How the military spouse stereotype has changed since COVID 08:25 — Why RFS pitches spouses as business assets 10:58 — Imposter syndrome and the ice bath challenge 13:41 — Has the landscape for spouses really changed? 14:26 — Keeping the drum beating through business uncertainty 15:07 — The £2,000 bank balance and payroll pressure 17:08 — Why Heledd did not give up 18:01 — The first RFS vision and the importance of a North Star 20:55 — Looking back on how much the military spouse space has shifted 21:52 — Changing policies and increasing awareness 23:35 — Stronger family, stronger workforce, stronger defence 25:18 — What RFS actually offers spouses today 28:53 — Building a core team and stepping into strategy 29:48 — Networking at the right rooms and the right time 32:25 — How early networking built trust and opportunity 37:40 — Why practice makes networking easier 38:46 — The bravest lesson: optimism, trust, and never giving up 40:51 — Why Jess’s community and platform matter to spouses 41:36 — Where to find RFS and its coaching and mentoring support Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  5. 11/06/2025

    082 : Scotty's Little Soldiers Re-Release for Remembrance with founder Nikki Scott

    Ahead of Remembrance Day, we are re-releasing one of the most poignant interviews ever recorded on The InDependent Spouse podcast. Host Jess Sands talks with the brilliant and inspirational founder, Nikki Scott, about the incredible journey that led her to create Scotty's Little Soldiers. Nikki shares the intensely personal and heartbreaking story of losing her husband, Lee Scott, who was killed in Afghanistan. She discusses the immediate aftermath, including the difficult decision of leaving the married quarter and the emotional weight of his repatriation. This conversation is a powerful exploration of grief, resilience, and the power of community, highlighting how Nikki transformed her pain into a mission to ensure bereaved British forces children can "smile again". We dive into the vital work of Scotty's Little Soldiers and how they support military children who have lost a parent, regardless of how they died. Key Takeaways & Discussion Points The Birth of Scotty's Little Soldiers: The idea was born on a family holiday nine months after Lee's death, when Nikki saw her 5-year-old son, Kai, smile and laugh again. This was her 'wake-up call' and the moment she realized she needed to help other children who had experienced the death of a parent who served. The Mission: Helping Them Smile: Scotty's Little Soldiers is dedicated to supporting all bereaved British forces children from the Armed Forces community. Support: An online bereavement service and resources to help families before they reach crisis points. Lee's Legacy: Nikki remembers Lee, who was killed at age 26, as the fun parent and "everybody's friend" . She believes he would be "100% behind" the charity. Resources and How to Connect Scotty's Little Soldiers Website: Find information, donate, fundraise, or get support - https://www.scottyslittlesoldiers.co.uk/ "Scotty's is something that we don't ever want to have to use, but to know that our children have that if they need it means so much." Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  6. 08/05/2025

    081 : Sewing a New Path: How a Business Course Changed Everything with Bekky from The Crafty Starfish

    Welcome to the final episode of Series 7! This week, I'm joined by Bekky, a Navy wife, mum of three, and a graduate from the Milspo Business Start-Up course. Bekky shares her incredible journey from feeling lost and lonely as a new military partner to building her own thriving business, The Crafty Starfish. We discuss the unique challenges military spouses face, such as frequent moves, deployments, and the general chaos of service life, and how she overcame them to create a business that is uniquely her own.Join us to hear Bekky share her inspiring story of overcoming the loneliness many new military partners experience to build her amazing business, The Crafty Starfish. Discover how she navigated these obstacles to create something truly special! Ready to start your own business? Are you a military spouse, partner or other-half with a brilliant idea, a hidden talent, or a burning desire for something of your own? Perhaps you've felt the loneliness of a new posting or the challenge of balancing your career with the demands of military life? Maybe you've put your dreams on hold, telling yourself there's "never a right time" to start? It's time to change that narrative. Our free Business Launch Accelerator course, funded by the Armed Forces Covenant Fund Trust and the Ministry of Defence, is designed specifically for you. It's the course Jess wished she had when she started. We will help you navigate the unique challenges of building a business around military life, from legal structures to managing deployments, to asking permissions, and sorting that mindset - giving you the best start to your business life! It's a real opportunity to connect with a community of like-minded people who understand exactly just what military and business life entails. It's your chance to do something for you, to build a career that moves with you, and to show your family how truly epic you are. Don't miss this chance to save your seat. The next cohort starts in September, after the summer chaos is over. Applications are open now until September 10th. All you have to do is take that first step, just like Bekky did. Find out more and apply at www.milspo.co.uk/course. We can't wait to welcome you! Episode Highlights: The Struggle for Belonging: Bekky opens up about the isolation she felt as a military partner and her search for a community that understood her experiences beyond just the military. The Genesis of an Idea: Discover how a personal love for sewing and a desire for a flexible career led Bekky to start her business, making beautiful, high-quality, and unique clothes for children. Overcoming the Odds: Hear how Bekky navigated the complexities of launching a business while pregnant, during a global pandemic, and with her husband deployed. She shares how the Milspo business course provided the crucial support she needed to succeed. Progress Over Perfection: Bekky reveals how she shifted her mindset from striving for perfection to embracing progress, a key lesson that helped her get her business off the ground. Finding Your 'Why': Learn about the deeply personal reasons behind Bekky's entrepreneurial journey—creating something for herself, setting an example for her children, and proving that it's possible to build a career you love while navigating military life. Connect with Bekky's Business, The Crafty Starfish: https://craftystarfish.co.uk/ Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  7. 07/29/2025

    080 : Juggling it All with Major Jo Vann

    Welcome back to The InDependent Spouse Podcast! In this episode, your host Jess Sands dives into the inspirational world of Major Jo Vann – a true multi-hyphenate who redefines what it means to juggle military life, motherhood, and a thriving business. Jo is not only working full-time in the British Army with a serving husband and two children, but she also runs a stunning boutique hotel in Amesbury called "A Little Place." Jess was lucky enough to visit this beautiful Georgian property, which she describes as something out of a Jane Austen novel. In this conversation, Jo shares how her military training, sporting background (including playing netball for England!), and a passion for people has equipped her to build an amazing business and team. Key Takeaways from Jo: Build an Amazing Team: Jo emphasizes that her number one priority when starting her business was growing an incredible team, allowing her to minimise her day-to-day contribution because of the people running it. Lessons from Military and Sport: The teamwork aspect, learned through both her army career and sport, has been crucial. She highlights how collaborating with others brings in broader skills and makes you stronger. The Drive to Give Back: After her successful sporting career, Jo developed a passion for coaching, becoming the head coach of the UK Armed Forces netball team, driven by a desire to give back. The Motivation Behind "A Little Place": Her love for people and bringing them together, combined with a desire for stability during a challenging period of army life with children, led her to open the hotel. She also aims to offer a safe and comfortable escape for the military community near Salisbury Plain. The Power of the Reserves: Jo sheds light on how Armed Forces Reserves offer flexible commitment levels, complementary income, personal development, teamwork, and unique training opportunities for those balancing civilian careers or businesses. Embracing Bravery and Curiosity: Jo encourages listeners to test new ideas and not be afraid to try "brave things," even if they feel like too much on their plate. She reminds us that regret often comes from not taking opportunities. This episode is a must-listen if you're feeling overwhelmed but need a powerful dose of inspiration to show you what's possible when you embrace challenges and build an incredible support system. Connect with Jo Vann and A Little Place: Website: a little place Instagram (A Little Place): https://www.instagram.com/alittleplace_uk/ LinkedIn (Jo Vann): You can find Jo on LinkedIn to learn more about her and the reserves - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanna-vann/ Connect with The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/milsponetwork/ Find a Milspo Directory: Showcase your military spouse-owned business! https://findamilspo.co.uk/ Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  8. 07/22/2025

    079 : Felicity Mercer – From Political Life to Award-Winning Business Owner

    Welcome back to The InDependent Spouse podcast! In this particularly exciting episode, Jess Sands sits down with the brilliant Felicity Mercer, wife to Johnny Mercer, who has navigated the unique challenges of armed forces life, the intense world of politics, and is now an award-winning business owner. We cover it all, from meeting Johnny Mercer (MP and former Minister for State for Veterans Affairs) as children, reconnecting as adults when he was serving in Afghanistan, to supporting him through a whirlwind political career. Felicity shares candid insights into the realities of being a political wife – far from glamorous – including dealing with public scrutiny, death threats, and the toll it takes on family life. She discusses the unexpected pivot from supporting her husband's public service to launching her own successful business, The Dress Barn, just six months ago. Discover how she's found pure joy in her new venture, applying years of experience to create a welcoming space for her clients, and even inspiring her own daughters to get involved. Felicity offers powerful advice for anyone in the military community looking to transition and start something new: "Don't overthink it. Just go for it!" This episode is a testament to resilience, adaptability, and finding your own path amidst the extraordinary demands of military and political life. Key Takeaways: The Unseen Side of Public Life: Felicity offers a raw and honest look at the lack of glamour and the intense public hatred and threats that can come with being a political spouse. Turning Challenges into Opportunities: Despite the difficulties of military and political life, Felicity emphasizes the importance of laughter and finding humor in tough situations. Empowerment Through Entrepreneurship: Learn how Felicity channelled her experiences and a small investment into a thriving and joyful business that empowers other women. The Power of "Don't Overthink It": Felicity's core advice for military spouses considering a new venture is to overcome self-doubt, have a plan, and back yourself. Inspiring the Next Generation: Felicity shares how her business journey is influencing her daughters, teaching them about hard work, independence, and the joy of helping others. The Dress Barn: Felicity Mercer's award-winning business, located near the Devon/Cornwall border - https://dress-barn.co.uk/ Join the Course! Are you a military spouse looking to start your own business? Join The InDependent Spouse's Business Launch Accelerator course! This fully funded, 8-week online course covers everything you need to know about entrepreneurship as a military spouse or partner. It's available for any partner or spouse of serving regular or reservist armed forces personnel and is funded by the Armed Forces Covenant Fund Trust and the Ministry of Defence. Learn more and sign up at milspo.co.uk/course. The course starts in September, and applications are open NOW! Connect with the Milspo Community: If you are a UK military spouse, partner, or "other half" running a business, join our thriving community of over 2,000+ members at milspo.co.uk. About The InDependent Spouse Podcast: Hosted by Jess Sands, this podcast is dedicated to modern military life, deployment support, and navigating life on the patch. We share real stories of UK military wives, RAF spouses, Army partners, and Navy families who are building epic businesses that thrive. Don't forget to hit follow or subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube to never miss an episode! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Empowering UK Military Spouses: The InDependent Spouse Podcast. Looking for inspiration, deployment support, and community as a military spouse or partner? The InDependent Spouse podcast is your go-to space for real stories, practical tips, and a thriving network navigating modern UK armed forces family life. Host Jess Sands chats with incredible military spouses and UK military wives who are overcoming the unique challenges of the patch to achieve amazing things. Alongside the podcast, Jess is the founder of the Milspo® Network—a thriving community of over 2,000 spouses, partners, and "other halves" dedicated to military spouse entrepreneurship and building epic businesses that thrive. Milspo is a certified social enterprise built by military spouses, for military spouses. Whether you are looking for military family support, business inspiration, or just want to hear from others who truly understand military life, this podcast is here to empower you both personally and professionally. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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