Growth Edge - A Leadership Podcast

Laurie Baedke

A leadership podcast sharing insights from peak performers and top leaders on stepping outside of your comfort zone, overcoming adversity, and growing personally and professionally in order to achieve success.

  1. Better Than Yesterday, Not as Good as Tomorrow: Leading with Hope in Healthcare, with Taya Gordon

    1d ago

    Better Than Yesterday, Not as Good as Tomorrow: Leading with Hope in Healthcare, with Taya Gordon

    Healthcare leaders are carrying more than ever. Staffing challenges, financial pressures, regulatory complexity, and constant change can leave even the most capable professionals feeling depleted. In this episode, Laurie sits down with healthcare executive, consultant, author, and podcast host Taya Gordon for a conversation about hope as a leadership practice. Together, they explore how leaders can create connection, celebrate progress, foster resilience, and help their teams navigate difficult seasons without resorting to toxic positivity. With equal parts wisdom and humor, Taya shares practical ways leaders can help others feel seen, supported, and reminded that they are not alone. In This Episode  - Why healthcare professionals often feel isolated despite being surrounded by people  - The difference between hope and toxic positivity  - How leaders can create hope during times of uncertainty  - The power of recognition, encouragement, and small wins  - Why listening may be one of the most important leadership skills  - The role humor plays in resilience and team culture  - Practical ways to help teams feel seen, valued, and supported  - Why "You're not alone" may be the leadership message people need most Memorable Quote "The hope that you're needing to receive today is the hope that you're able to give somebody else tomorrow." Connect with Taya Taya Gordon is CEO of Atlas & Perpetua Healthcare, LLC, a nationally recognized revenue cycle management expert, consultant, author, speaker, and podcast host. She is passionate about helping healthcare organizations navigate complexity while building stronger, more resilient teams. Taya Gordon on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tayagordon/ Final Thought Hope is not pretending things are fine. It is helping people believe they can move forward together. As Taya reminds us throughout this conversation, sometimes the most powerful thing a leader can say is, "You're not alone."

    29 min
  2. Courage, Composure, and Character: Leading at the Highest Level with Dr. Irma Becerra

    Jun 1

    Courage, Composure, and Character: Leading at the Highest Level with Dr. Irma Becerra

    In this episode of the Growth Edge Leadership Podcast, Laurie Baedke sits down with Dr. Irma Becerra, President of Marymount University, for a timely and thoughtful conversation on what it means to lead with courage, composure, and character in an era of relentless change. Drawing from her experience leading a rapidly innovating university through disruption, difficult decisions, and transformation, Dr. Becerra shares practical wisdom on courageous decision-making, navigating uncertainty, balancing decisiveness with discernment, and staying grounded in values when leadership pressure intensifies. Together, Laurie and Dr. Becerra explore the tensions leaders face today and the enduring principles that still matter most. In This Episode * Why the pace and volume of change feels fundamentally different today * How AI is reshaping education, leadership, and workforce preparation * The importance of developing both technical capability and human-centered leadership skills * Courageous leadership and making unpopular but necessary decisions * How leaders can navigate uncertainty without pretending to have all the answers * Psychological safety, humility, and surrounding yourself with wise counsel * Balancing decisiveness with thoughtful consideration of unintended consequences * The pressure leaders face in the age of social media and public scrutiny * Why values and a clear “North Star” matter in difficult moments * The importance of rest, renewal, and sustainable leadership * Leadership as stewardship, impact, and service to others Key Themes and Takeaways 1. The Pace of Change Requires a Different Kind of Leadership Dr. Becerra reflects on how leaders today are navigating not only more change, but faster change. From AI disruption to shifting societal expectations and policy changes, leaders are being asked to adapt constantly while still providing stability and clarity for their organizations. 2. Technical Excellence Alone Is Not Enough While Marymount is intentionally preparing students to be “AI fluent,” Dr. Becerra emphasizes that curiosity, courage, ethics, empathy, and perspective-taking remain equally essential. As she shares, the so-called “soft skills” are enduring leadership competencies that matter more than ever. 3. Courage Often Looks Like Making Unpopular Decisions One of the most compelling moments in the conversation centers around Marymount’s decision to close under-enrolled academic programs in order to invest in emerging, market-driven fields. Dr. Becerra discusses the reality that leaders cannot “be everything to everybody,” and that courageous leadership sometimes means disappointing people in service of long-term sustainability and mission alignment. 4. Leaders Do Not Need to Have All the Answers Dr. Becerra openly rejects the idea that strong leaders must always project certainty. Instead, she advocates for humility, vulnerability, and the willingness to say, “I don’t know, but I’ll look into it.” She also highlights the importance of building psychologically safe teams where trusted colleagues feel comfortable offering dissenting perspectives and honest feedback. 5. Every Leadership Decision Carries Tension Throughout the conversation, Laurie and Dr. Becerra return repeatedly to the tensions leaders navigate every day: decisiveness versus over-analysis, courage versus caution, confidence versus humility, and responsiveness versus overreacting to criticism. Leadership is rarely black and white, and thoughtful leaders must learn to navigate complexity rather than avoid it. 6. Your Values Must Anchor Your Leadership For Dr. Becerra, her “North Star” is always asking what is best for students and for the future sustainability of the institution. She emphasizes that leaders must know their values clearly and make decisions consistent with those convictions, even when criticism or uncertainty follows. 7. Sustainable Leadership Requires Renewal In one of the conversation’s most human moments, Dr. Becerra shares her own ongoing lessons around slowing down, resting, and intentionally renewing herself outside of work. Whether through family time, movies, hobbies, or simple downtime, leaders cannot continue pouring into others if they never replenish themselves. Final Thought Leadership today demands far more than expertise or authority. It requires the courage to make difficult decisions, the composure to navigate uncertainty without panic, and the character to remain grounded in values when pressure mounts. This conversation with Dr. Irma Becerra is a powerful reminder that while the world around us may continue changing rapidly, the leaders who endure are the ones who stay anchored in purpose, integrity, and service to others. Connect with Dr. Becerra - https://www.linkedin.com/in/irma-becerra-phd-8753a91/

    31 min
  3. Lifelong Learning in Leadership: Staying Relevant in a Rapidly Changing World with Andrew Wade

    May 4

    Lifelong Learning in Leadership: Staying Relevant in a Rapidly Changing World with Andrew Wade

    In today’s rapidly evolving healthcare landscape, leadership is not defined by what you know. It is defined by your willingness to keep learning. In this episode, Laurie Baedke sits down with Andrew Wade, DHA, FACHE, FACMPE, FACHDM, CEO of OrthoSC, for a grounded and insightful conversation on lifelong learning, adaptability, and the discipline of unlearning. Together, they explore what it truly means to lead in a world where yesterday’s playbook no longer applies. If you are navigating complexity, leading through change, or striving to stay relevant at the highest levels, this conversation will challenge and equip you.   In This Episode * Lifelong learning as a leadership discipline * The necessity of unlearning outdated assumptions * Curiosity as a strategic leadership advantage * Humility in high-performing leaders * The human side of leadership and relational impact * Navigating constant change in healthcare and beyond * Expanding perspective through diversity of thought * Leadership formation through experience and reflection * Developing the next generation of leaders   Key Themes and Takeaways 1. Lifelong Learning Is a Leadership Imperative The most effective leaders are not those who have arrived, but those who remain open. Andrew reframes learning as an ongoing opportunity, not a milestone. In dynamic industries like healthcare, curiosity is foundational to relevance and performance. Leadership Insight:
Learning fuels adaptability. Adaptability sustains leadership. 2. You Must Learn and Unlearn Growth is not only about adding knowledge. It requires letting go of what no longer serves you. The beliefs and strategies that once worked can quietly become limitations. The modern leader must continually iterate, rethink, and evolve. Leadership Insight:
Unlearning is not a weakness. It is evidence of awareness and maturity. 3. Curiosity and Humility Create Competitive Advantage In complex environments, no single perspective is enough. Curiosity expands awareness. Humility keeps leaders open to input, feedback, and challenge. Together, they create better decisions and stronger outcomes. This reflects a core leadership truth. Self-awareness and emotional intelligence are not optional. They are differentiators. 4. Leadership Is Deeply Human Amid strategy and performance, it is easy to lose sight of what matters most. Every decision impacts individuals with stories, relationships, and meaning. Leadership is not transactional. It is relational. Leadership Insight:
When leaders stay connected to the human impact of their work, performance and purpose align. 5. The Pace of Change Demands a New Kind of Leader The healthcare industry has fundamentally changed, and the pace continues to accelerate. What worked in the past will not sustain future success. Leaders must build new capacities, including agility, continuous learning, and cross-functional awareness. The leaders who will thrive are those who stay intellectually flexible, invest in development, and lead with both competence and empathy.   Final Thought Leadership is not a destination. It is a discipline. The leaders who remain relevant and trusted over time are those who stay open to learning, open to feedback, and open to growth. That is the work.   Connect with Andrew LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajwade85/

    37 min
  4. Apr 20

    From Adversity to Influence: Leadership Lessons with Nicole Jones-Gerbino

    Leadership today demands more than strategy. It requires alignment between vision and culture, expectations and behaviors, pressure and purpose. In this episode, Laurie sits down with Nicole Jones-Gerbino, President of PBS Radiology Business Experts, for a candid and energizing conversation about what it really takes to lead well in complex healthcare environments. Nicole brings both depth and lived experience. From an upbringing marked by instability and early responsibility to executive leadership in high-stakes organizations, her perspective is grounded, practical, and deeply human. Together, they explore a central truth: leadership begins long before the title, and it’s tested most under pressure. What You’ll Learn * How to intentionally align strategy and culture so your organization can execute with clarity, consistency, and trust * Why misalignment between leadership intent and team experience is one of the most common and costly barriers to performance * How early life experiences can shape a leader’s empathy, resilience, and ability to connect with and develop others * What it truly means to take ownership as a leader, especially in environments where conditions are uncertain or imperfect * How to build organizations where flexibility fuels creativity and innovation without creating confusion or chaos * Why people, not organizations, drive engagement, retention, and performance, and how leaders influence that daily * The role of emotional intelligence and perspective-taking in navigating high-pressure, high-stakes healthcare environments * How to lead through complexity by focusing on clarity, accountability, and human connection not just process Key Insights 1. Leadership begins when responsibility shows up
Leadership is not conferred by title, but it’s revealed in response. The leaders who rise are those who step forward when responsibility appears, especially when it’s unexpected or difficult. 2. You don’t choose your circumstances, but you choose your response
This principle is more than mindset, it’s a leadership discipline. Leaders who model ownership create cultures where accountability replaces excuse-making and forward motion replaces stagnation. 3. Culture is not separate from strategy, it is strategy
Execution lives in the day-to-day behaviors of people. If culture and strategy are misaligned, even the most well-designed plans will stall. Alignment is not aspirational, it’s operational. 4. People choose people
Engagement and retention are driven less by organizational brand and more by the lived experience of leadership. Trust, connection, and feeling valued are decisive factors in performance. 5. Flexibility requires clarity
Flexibility without structure creates ambiguity. But when anchored in clear expectations and shared purpose, flexibility becomes a powerful driver of creativity, ownership, and results. 6. Perspective is a leadership advantage
Leaders who can see beyond their own experience, who understand the unseen pressures and stories of others, lead with greater empathy, better judgment, and stronger influence. About Nicole Jones-Gerbino Nicole serves as President and co-owner of PBS Radiology Business Experts, leading a national organization supporting healthcare groups through complexity, growth, and change. Over more than two decahttps://nicolejonesgerbino.com/des, Nicole has built a career across the business of healthcare, leading physician practices, consulting environments, health systems, and value-based care. Her work has included partnering with some of the largest radiology practices in the country, leading enterprise initiatives across multiple specialties, and helping launch one of the largest Medicare ACO and clinically integrated networks in California, representing more than 1,500 physicians. Connect with Nicole LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/njonesgerbino/ Website - https://nicolejonesgerbino.com/ PBS Radiology Business Experts - https://pbsradiology.com/

    30 min
  5. Apr 13

    The Unspoken Side of Grief: What We Get Wrong, and How to Show Up Better with Dr. Joann Schaefer

    Grief is universal and yet so many of us feel completely unprepared to navigate it. In this episode of the Growth Edge Leadership Podcast, I sit down with returning guest Dr. Joann Schaefer to discuss her powerful new book, The Unspoken Side of Grief. Drawing from decades of experience as a physician, public health leader, and executive, Dr. Schaefer offers a deeply human and nuanced exploration of grief; what it looks like, how it differs across types of loss, and what people who are grieving truly wish others understood. Together, we unpack the misconceptions, discomfort, and silence that often surround grief and replace them with practical, compassionate ways to show up for others during life’s hardest moments. This is not just a conversation about loss. It’s a conversation about empathy, presence, and the kind of leadership that extends far beyond the workplace. In This Episode, We Discuss: * Why grief is both universal and deeply personal, and why that distinction matters * The different ways people experience loss (spouse, child, sibling, friend, pregnancy) and why nuance is critical * What people who are grieving wish others understood, but rarely say out loud * The most common misconceptions about grief * Why we feel uncomfortable around grief, and how to move past that discomfort * What not to say, and why common clichés can be harmful * Practical, actionable ways to support someone who is grieving without adding burden * How grief can shape perspective, purpose, and even leadership capacity over time Key Takeaways Grief is not a problem to solve, it’s an experience to be witnessed. As Dr. Schaefer shares, one of the most important truths is that grief is not linear, predictable, or uniform. Each person’s journey is uniquely their own, and it cannot be rushed or “fixed.” This conversation reinforces that: * Empathy is not about having the right words, it’s about being present * Avoidance is often more painful than imperfection; acknowledgment matters * Specific, tangible offers of help are far more meaningful than open-ended gestures * Grief doesn’t end, it evolves, becoming a quiet presence people learn to live alongside * Leadership, at its core, includes the ability to sit with others in their hardest moments About Dr. Joann Schaefer Dr. Joann Schaefer is a family physician, former tenured associate professor at Creighton University School of Medicine, and Nebraska’s longest-serving and first female Chief Medical Officer. She also previously served as Executive Vice President and Chief Medical Officer at Blue Cross Blue Shield of Nebraska. Today, she works as a healthcare consultant and executive coach, and is the author of The Unspoken Side of Grief, a book designed to deepen understanding and expand empathy around one of life’s most universal experiences. Connect with Dr. Schaefer Website: https://www.cirvhealthcareconsulting.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannschaefermd/ The Unspoken Side of Grief book - https://www.amazon.com/Unspoken-Side-Grief-Healing-Grieving/dp/B0GT6ZV5P8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1R55DIZQF0I3E&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.j4mqnhdaiZXsPJ3SobYL5g.o4wF4VrsQvX5NnAI3SbgSgGUmLfmxMh4OGknbxoij_A&dib_tag=se&keywords=joann+schaefer+grief&qid=1776019854&sprefix=joann+schaefer+grie%2Caps%2C148&sr=8-1

    29 min
  6. Apr 6

    Networking as a Leadership Competency with Paul Marini

    Most high-performing professionals resist networking. It feels transactional. Time-consuming. Even unnecessary. But here’s the reality:
 As your leadership grows, your success becomes less about what you know, and more about who you can connect, influence, and develop. In this episode, Laurie sits down with Paul Marini, Associate Chair for Administration in Orthopedic Surgery at UNC Chapel Hill, to reframe networking as a core leadership competency, not a career tactic. Together, they explore: * Why leaders avoid networking (and what it’s costing them) * How to shift from self-promotion to service and stewardship * The role of curiosity, generosity, and consistency in building authentic relationships * How senior leaders can leverage their network to elevate others, not just themselves If you’ve ever thought, “My work should speak for itself,” this conversation will challenge that belief, and equip you with a more effective, human-centered approach. Because networking, done well, isn’t about visibility. It’s about impact. The conversation highlights three leadership reframes: 1. From Transactional → Relational Networking is not about extracting value. It’s about building trust. 2. From Self-Focused → Others-Focused Curiosity replaces pressure. Generosity replaces performance. 3. From Personal Gain → Leadership Stewardship At higher levels, networking becomes less about you, and more about how you create access for others. KEY TAKEAWAYS * Networking is not optional, it’s a leadership responsibility * Relationships are the infrastructure behind execution and strategy * The best networkers are curious, generous, and consistent * Senior leaders multiply impact by sharing their network * Small, intentional interactions matter more than large, forced efforts CONNECT WITH PAUL Paul Marini LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/marinipaul/

    39 min
  7. Mar 30

    Rethinking Resilience: What Leaders Get Wrong About Burnout, with author Paula Davis

    Burnout is often framed as an individual failure. Push harder. Be more resilient. Manage your time better. But what if that narrative is incomplete, or worse, misleading? In this conversation, I sit down with Paula Davis, founder and CEO of the Stress and Resilience Institute, to unpack what burnout really is, where resilience fits, and why leaders must expand their lens beyond the individual. Drawing from her own experience with burnout as a practicing attorney, and her extensive work across healthcare, law, and the military, Paula offers a grounded, research-backed perspective on how we build sustainable performance in high-demand environments. This episode is both a reframe and a roadmap. In This Episode * A clear, research-informed definition of burnout, and why it cannot be solved at the individual level alone * The evolution of resilience science and how it applies to today’s high-intensity professional environments * Why language like “resilience” can create resistance, and how effective leaders reframe the conversation * The critical interplay between individual capacity, team dynamics, and organizational systems in driving sustainable performance * Lessons from military, healthcare, and legal settings on scaling resilience in complex, high-stakes environments * How leaders can engage skeptical or fatigued teams in meaningful, science-based dialogue about well-being * Practical considerations for integrating resilience into leadership practice without oversimplifying or overburdening individuals Key Takeaway Sustainable performance begins with personal responsibility for your energy and focus, and is amplified by leaders who intentionally build environments where people can do their best work. Connect with Paula Paula Davis LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauladavislaack/ Stress and Resilience Institute - https://stressandresilience.com Books - Beating Burnout at Work - https://www.amazon.com/Beating-Burnout-Work-Well-Being-Resilience/dp/B09SBX3FCQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NGG601UZ45KE&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bDOFBEzSVWtTsE-JGnrX9iwEO87WPJLqZWHzodJDCF9uhdenJD7GjEin5l4bk4BAUo1XeA3DPTM9PrCOGjqQ6K05zAiBW037o8iZYHUiQ_eK8q5DO1TMCRKS-_G5-6wEjq4NmlV-6HTBSkGC1lRZZzh_fy4rtC1x2KLbY9ygFu6hFliozYyUZ0BBpMZhqmDKS8_3DVgvXcG0hVwQiZWnN0eDidcDcqVhI2O4o8KsCAI.O8HEO3J7ZU10yUQL2YFp7R9vpeCzhXsylkorpYVrnyI&dib_tag=se&keywords=beating+burnout+at+work&qid=1774641756&sprefix=beating+burn%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-1 - Lead Well - https://www.amazon.com/Lead-Well-Mindsets-Engage-Inspire/dp/B0DSJSLM6X/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.p7tryNyX0qgcJqT49gz4e9-zxOIgr8m2KcvW5GyYsaks2h0qdg1wut1Yl0JkL1J0KsKzw-JCBoiPZ7wHshBPXuJIyl9ZtkiVw3koqIZcMax8hPEq_-nDdyktFeu8MYAuwAaJ9ObNyZP2sIz70Sy-bSHpuiOqNd9tSGCIKakO3JlwtZVmTPW5tMQBiECfYex-Nvc77d4Zw9pKHbx9x1ps7exbEtDwpWl2pPsO7EXzqZw.wW8Dimb1Krel8PJJHC4bGo0zaDS84YZNM_KCF_bgRuI&dib_tag=se&keywords=Paula+Davis&qid=1774641781&s=audible&sr=1-1

    38 min

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