🎙️ 33 CONVERSATIONS PODCAST

Michael Abney

33 Conversations is a podcast about who we have been, what changes us, and who we are becoming. Host Michael Abney sits down with founders, creators, and leaders whose stories are still unfolding. Each conversation moves beyond the polished biography and familiar success story to explore the experiences that shaped their authority, the identities they may be outgrowing, and the next chapter beginning to emerge. These are not performances or perfectly packaged lessons. They are honest conversations about uncertainty, reinvention, confidence, purpose, and the meaningful work of building a life from the inside out. For listeners, each episode offers a window into the messy middle and something useful, honest, or hopeful to carry into their own lives.

  1. Sep 22

    Stop Carrying the Business in Your Head — with Adi Klevit

    What happens when the knowledge keeping your business alive is also keeping it dependent on you? Adi Klevit helps founders turn the instincts, standards, relationships, and decisions living in their heads into processes their teams can actually carry. In this conversation, Michael and Adi explore why founder knowledge becomes a bottleneck, how systems create freedom rather than confinement, and how to use AI as a tool without allowing it to choose the direction. “When I’m driving—not when AI is driving.” — Adi Klevit In this episode: • Why “only I can do it” signals trapped knowledge • How to extract a founder’s instincts without flattening them • Why documented systems create freedom, continuity, and business value • Where human judgment belongs in AI-assisted work • The practical first question every founder should ask CHAPTERS 00:00 Stop Carrying the Business in Your Head 02:10 Why Founder Knowledge Gets Trapped 05:09 The Hidden Cost of “Only I Can Do It” 09:10 Turning Vision Into a Business That Can Continue 11:51 Using AI Without Letting AI Drive 16:14 What Founders Must Let Go Of 17:33 How Adi Built Her Process Consulting Work 20:47 Human Creativity in an AI World 22:17 From Vision to Playbooks and Action 24:46 Where to Start This Week 25:52 The Leadership Threshold CONNECT WITH ADI KLEVIT Business Success Consulting Group: https://www.bizsuccesscg.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adiklevit Systems Simplified podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/systems-simplified/id1561408008 EXPLORE 33 CONVERSATIONS https://33conversations.com What part of your business still lives only in your head?

    Stop Carrying the Business in Your Head — with Adi Klevit
  2. Sep 15

    Your Business OS: Why Your Business Can’t Outgrow You | Georges Hanna

    What if your business is simply reflecting the OS of the person leading it? Georges Hanna believes that many founders try to fix the visible problem first: sales, marketing, strategy, money, or team performance. But sometimes the real issue sits underneath all of it. In this conversation, Georges shares how his own business failures pushed him to examine what he calls the internal operating system of a leader: the beliefs, habits, emotional patterns, standards, and practices that shape how we make decisions and take action. We talk about why information alone rarely creates change, why repetition and practice matter, how founders become bottlenecks in their own companies, and why a business often cannot grow beyond the internal capacity of the person leading it. Georges also shares his framework around the four levels of profit and why profit is about more than money. This conversation explores: • The founder as the business OS • Why sales and marketing problems may be symptoms • The four levels of profit • Information vs. practice • How habits shape business outcomes • Why founders become the ceiling • Leadership before systems • Achievement vs. becoming • Collaboration instead of competition • Building a business that can grow beyond you • Why your business can become a mirror One idea sits at the center of the conversation: Your business can only grow as far as you are willing to grow. Guest bio Georges Hanna is the founder of Smart Income Lifestyle, a business coach, leadership architect, and mentor who helps founders and leaders strengthen the internal systems that shape how they lead, build, and grow. Host bio line Hosted by Michael Abney, 33 Conversations explores the honest conversations founders and leaders are having while building what comes next.

    Your Business OS: Why Your Business Can’t Outgrow You | Georges Hanna
  3. Jul 16

    Healing Is Voltage: Rethinking Fatigue and Hidden Stressors

    What do you do when your body feels wrong, but no one can clearly explain why? Persistent fatigue. Brain fog. Pressure in the jaw. Old injuries that never fully resolve. Symptoms that appear unrelated, yet continue asking for attention. In this special bonus episode of 33 Conversations, Michael Abney speaks with Stephen Heuer, B.S. Nutripath and founder of Synergistic Nutrition, about the personal health experiences that led him to question conventional assumptions about aging, energy, dental health, minerals, and the body’s electrical systems. Stephen shares the framework he describes as “healing is voltage,” along with his experience of jawbone infections, dental procedures, chronic physical pressure, mineral balance, alkalinity, nervous-system stress, and other potential hidden stressors. Michael also opens up about his own experience with failed root canals, jawbone loss, dizziness, fatigue, brain fog, and the frustration of trying to understand symptoms that did not come with clear answers. This is a conversation about curiosity, self-advocacy, and learning to ask deeper questions when something in the body does not feel right. In this episode: • Stephen’s personal experience with dental infections and chronic symptoms • Why he views the body as both biochemical and electrical • Michael’s experience with failed root canals and unexplained health changes • Questions to consider when seeking dental or medical support • Stephen’s perspective on minerals, energy, alkalinity, and structural health • The importance of listening to physical signals • Why aging does not have to mean accepting every symptom as inevitable • The role of curiosity and discernment in personal health decisions About Stephen Heuer Stephen Heuer is a B.S. Nutripath and the founder of Synergistic Nutrition. His work explores nutrition, mineral balance, structural health, and alternative approaches to personal wellness. Connect with Stephen: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-heuer-122535202/ Website: [ADD STEPHEN’S WEBSITE] Medical disclaimer: This episode presents personal experiences and the guest’s individual perspectives. It is provided for general informational and conversational purposes only and is not medical or dental advice. Some ideas discussed are non-mainstream, may not reflect established scientific consensus, and have not been independently verified by 33 Conversations. Do not use this episode to diagnose or treat a condition. Consult an appropriately licensed medical or dental professional before making decisions regarding symptoms, diagnoses, medications, supplements, tests, dental procedures, or treatment. 33 Conversations is hosted by Michael Abney and explores the inner experiences, difficult questions, and human transformations shaping founders, leaders, experts, and people building meaningful lives.

    Healing Is Voltage: Rethinking Fatigue and Hidden Stressors

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33 Conversations is a podcast about who we have been, what changes us, and who we are becoming. Host Michael Abney sits down with founders, creators, and leaders whose stories are still unfolding. Each conversation moves beyond the polished biography and familiar success story to explore the experiences that shaped their authority, the identities they may be outgrowing, and the next chapter beginning to emerge. These are not performances or perfectly packaged lessons. They are honest conversations about uncertainty, reinvention, confidence, purpose, and the meaningful work of building a life from the inside out. For listeners, each episode offers a window into the messy middle and something useful, honest, or hopeful to carry into their own lives.