Cliterally Speaking the Podcast

Michelle Dougherty and Emily Lane

Honest, long-form conversations among girlfriends over a notable bottle of wine. Real, topical, unafraid, empowering, silly to serious. Each episode includes an honest review of the bottle of wine Emily and Michelle are drinking. You hear what they REALLY think about it! Cliterally Speaking the Podcast.. .. we're so glad you found us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. Sep 4

    Don Reed: The Long Way to Exactly Where You’re Supposed to Be

    *We realize it is hotter than Hades right now in the Midwest. When we recorded the episode, it was a rare cool summer day. We are not crazy. ;-) * Six years after his first visit to Cliterally Speaking, award-winning comedian, actor, writer and master storyteller Don Reed is back—and somehow there’s even more to talk about. Don catches us up on the remarkable chain of events that grew out of one of the biggest disappointments of his career: being personally selected by Johnny Carson to appear on The Tonight Show, only to discover that his own manager had kept the opportunity from happening. Decades later, that unfinished story led Don to the National Comedy Center, where he finally performed the set Carson had approved and received a standing ovation. What once felt like a devastating missed opportunity ultimately became the inspiration for Don’s one-man show The Never Too Late Show and his forthcoming memoir, Here’s Donny: A Memoir of Hard Knocks from Pimp Town to Tinsel Town, scheduled for release in summer 2027 through Simon & Schuster. But this conversation is about much more than show business. Don takes us inside Redwood Nights: Storytelling Under the Stars, the extraordinary gathering he created beneath the redwoods in Marin County, where phones are put away, wine and food are shared, and people reconnect through what Don calls not artificial intelligence, but “authentic interaction.” We talk about why storytelling demands a different kind of vulnerability than stand-up comedy, and why sometimes the funniest people become even more compelling when they stop chasing the next laugh and simply tell the truth. And then there’s the love story. Don shares how a friendship of 35 years unexpectedly became something more, and why falling in love later in life felt less frightening and more certain than anything that had come before it. Emily shares a little of her own love story, and the conversation becomes a beautiful reminder that our capacity to dream, create, change, connect, and fall wildly in love doesn't come with an expiration date. Naturally, there is wine. Don introduces us to the remarkable story behind the McBride Sisters Collection, while Emily and Michelle open one of the last bottles in Emily’s cellar from a beloved Rhône winemaker. Along the way, we talk fathers, family, missed chances, homelessness, perseverance, storytelling, food, friendship, second acts, and the strange way the road you never intended to travel can sometimes take you exactly where you needed to go. Because maybe “too late” isn't really a thing. In this episode: The Tonight Show opportunity Don almost had—and the betrayal that kept it from happeningPerforming his Johnny Carson-approved set 30 years laterWhy Don now believes missing that original opportunity may have changed his career for the betterHis forthcoming memoir, Here’s Donny: A Memoir of Hard Knocks from Pimp Town to Tinsel TownThe creation and magic of Redwood Nights: Storytelling Under the StarsWhy vulnerability changes comedy and storytellingDon’s father, his childhood and the stories that shaped East 14thFinding love after 35 years of friendshipWhy dreams—and love—don't have expiration datesAnd, of course, the wine Follow Don Reed on Instagram: @donreedwow Thank you for listening and subscribing to Cliterally Speaking the Podcast. Visit our website: www.cliterallyspeakingpodcast.com Facebook: @cspeakpodcast Instagram: @cliterallyspeakingthepodcast Please call our comment line: 812-727-0794 Watch our youtube channel (Cliterally Speaking the Podcast) for all the behind the scenes discussions during our recording sessions. Our Patreon site is up - visit it here - http://bit.ly/32uOnVT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Don Reed: The Long Way to Exactly Where You’re Supposed to Be
  2. Aug 14

    The Man Behind the Fashion (and Emily's heart)

    Ever wondered what it takes to bring your favorite t-shirt from an idea to your closet? This week, Michelle and Emily welcome a very special guest: Emily's fiancé, Bret Schnitker—entrepreneur, global apparel expert, world traveler, and co-host of the Clothing Coulture podcast. Bret shares the unlikely path that led him from a California surfer kid and aspiring actor to becoming a leader in the international fashion industry. Along the way, he reveals how a mentor changed the trajectory of his career, what he's learned from manufacturing around the globe, and why relationships matter just as much as business strategy. The conversation also turns personal as Bret and Emily share how friendship, collaboration, and mutual respect slowly grew into love. It's an honest discussion about finding your person later in life, balancing work and romance, and why great conversation may be the sexiest quality of all. Of course, it wouldn't be Cliterally Speaking without a little laughter, plenty of relationship banter, and a bottle of excellent rosé. In this episode:How Bret accidentally found a career in fashionThe surprising journey from retail to international apparel manufacturingWhat really goes into making the clothes we wearManufacturing, politics, and the changing global economyWhy mentorship can change the course of your lifeHow Bret and Emily met—and why they kept their relationship quiet at firstFinding love after life's detoursWhy intellectual connection matters just as much as physical attractionWedding plans, future adventures, and a few laughs along the wayWine of the WeekBrook & Bull Rosé by winemaker Ashley Trout (Walla Walla, Washington) A refreshing summer rosé that even converted a self-proclaimed rosé skeptic. Emily and Michelle also reminisce about Ashley's previous appearance on the podcast and toast to friendship, great wine, and meaningful conversations. Connect with Bret & EmilyLearn more about Bret and Emily's work in the fashion industry through their podcast, Clothing Coulture, where they explore apparel manufacturing, global sourcing, design, and the ever-changing business of fashion. Thank you for listening and subscribing to Cliterally Speaking the Podcast. Visit our website: www.cliterallyspeakingpodcast.com Facebook: @cspeakpodcast Instagram: @cliterallyspeakingthepodcast Please call our comment line: 812-727-0794 Watch our youtube channel (Cliterally Speaking the Podcast) for behind the scenes discussions during our recording sessions. Our Patreon site is up - visit it here - http://bit.ly/32uOnVT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    The Man Behind the Fashion (and Emily's heart)
  3. Jul 31

    When the Batteries Died... We Kept Talking

    This episode, we're simply catching up—and somehow that turns into one of our favorite kinds of episodes. Michelle reflects on the incredible response to the second performance of Girlfriend Medicine and what's next.Why producing theater is equal parts magic, chaos, and troubleshooting.Emily shares stories from Cabo—including the tragic loss of another jar of honey to airport security.We dive into dynamic pricing, digital price tags, and whether retailers should know more about us than we know about ourselves.A preview of our upcoming Hot Flash episode breaking down Missouri's ballot issues.Wedding veils, traditions, and how history shapes the rituals we still follow today.Plus, plenty of laughs about lubrication, menopause, friendship, and the wonderfully random places a conversation can go after a glass (or two) of wine.And yes... About 20 minutes from the end, our recorder batteries quietly gave up. We didn't realize it until much later, so the final part of our conversation is lost to history. Consider it proof that sometimes the best conversations happen when no one's recording. Cheers! Thank you for listening and subscribing to Cliterally Speaking the Podcast. Visit our website: www.cliterallyspeakingpodcast.com Facebook: @cspeakpodcast Instagram: @cliterallyspeakingthepodcast Twitter: @cliterallyspea1 Please call our comment line: 812-727-0794 Watch our youtube channel (Cliterally Speaking the Podcast) for all the behind the scenes discussions during our recording sessions. Our Patreon site is up - visit it here - http://bit.ly/32uOnVT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    When the Batteries Died... We Kept Talking
  4. Jun 12

    Bodies, Bones, and Bordeaux

    Hi All! Michelle and Emily were joined by artist, scholar, and all-around fascinating human Patricia Olynyk for what was supposed to be a conversation over a bottle of wine. As it turns out, one bottle wasn't nearly enough. In this episode of Bodies, Bones, and Bordeaux, they talk art. They talk science. They talk friendship. They talk about the strange little coincidences that make you wonder if there's something more going on in the universe than we're meant to understand. Michelle shares updates on Girlfriend Medicine and the growing community that is taking shape around friendship and connection. Emily talks weddings, new beginnings, and the wisdom that comes with embracing life's next chapter. Together with Patricia, they wander into conversations about medical humanities, body modification, forgotten women in history, museums filled with human remains, the ethics of scientific discovery, and why some stories deserve to be told long after the people themselves have been forgotten. They talk about how history has shaped the way we see our bodies and each other. They talk about stigma, healing, archives, and the importance of asking uncomfortable questions. They also talk about ghosts. And witches. And whether good summer panties might actually qualify as a public service. The first bottle of the afternoon was a 2024 Brondelle Bordeaux Rosé—light, peachy, and apparently the perfect pairing for conversations about personhood, plague, ghosts, and whether spirits might still be hanging around old churches. Thank you for listening and subscribing to Cliterally Speaking the Podcast. Visit our website: www.cliterallyspeakingpodcast.com Facebook: @cspeakpodcast Instagram: @cliterallyspeakingthepodcast Please call our comment line: 812-727-0794 Watch our YouTube channel (Cliterally Speaking the Podcast) for behind-the-scenes moments from our recording sessions. Our Patreon site is up and running: http://bit.ly/32uOnVT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Bodies, Bones, and Bordeaux
  5. Apr 30

    Let's Talk About What's Happening Right Now

    ⚠️ Content Note: This episode includes discussion of sexual violence and online exploitation. Please take care while listening—and reading. Step away if you need to. We’ll be here when you get back. Hi All! Michelle and Emily start this episode the way all good things begin—catching up, sipping wine, and easing back into their rhythm together. There’s talk of tornadoes, travel, Emily's wedding (!!), and the continued excitement around Girlfriend Medicine (the world premiere SOLD OUT! But there's a second performance on May 30th, tickets on sale now!). The wine of the show? Seven Springs Pinot Noir (Oregon)—and let’s just say… she’s bold, she’s earthy, she’s got a little edge to her, and she absolutely kept up with this conversation. And then… the conversation turns. What starts light gets real—because there are some things happening right now that we can’t just scroll past. Michelle and Emily talk through the SAVE Act, what it could mean for voting access, and why something that sounds simple on paper (just “show your documents”) isn’t actually simple at all—especially for women. Name changes, life transitions, missing paperwork… it adds up quickly. They also get into the bigger picture—what happens when access to everyday systems (like voting… or even banking) starts requiring more and more proof. And because apparently we weren’t done being unsettled… they dive into a CNN investigation exposing online communities where violence against women isn’t just happening—it’s being taught, shared, and normalized. Yeah. That part. It’s not an easy conversation—but it’s an important one. They talk about fear. They talk about silence. They talk about why it feels harder than ever to just… talk about things. And they ask the question we’re all sitting with: What are we actually going to do about it? As always—thank you for being here, for listening, and for being part of this conversation. Thank you for listening and subscribing to Cliterally Speaking the Podcast. Visit our website: www.cliterallyspeakingpodcast.com Facebook: @cspeakpodcast Instagram: @cliterallyspeakingthepodcast Watch our YouTube channel (Cliterally Speaking the Podcast) for all the behind-the-scenes discussions during our recording sessions. Our Patreon site is up - visit it here - http://bit.ly/32uOnVT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Let's Talk About What's Happening Right Now
  6. 12/17/2025

    Good Humans

    On May 16, 2025, St. Louis was hit by an F3 tornado that left 4,500 households without shelter. It's been 7 months since the tornado hit, and still, so much is left to be done to get people back into their homes. Emily and Michelle welcome Ali Rand, the guiding force behind the St. Louis Street Angels, and one of her volunteers (and Michelle's son), Will Ratcliff. Ali was a stay-at-home mom of 5, living in the Central West End neighborhood of St. Louis, MO, enjoying that beautiful Friday afternoon before the tornado hit St Louis, including her own home. She has started Street Angels, a grassroots volunteer movement born of devastation but motivated by a love for her adopted hometown of St. Louis, Missouri. They talk about the effects of their continued efforts to rebuild, how to stay motivated in the face of adversity, the beautiful friendships made, and the stronger sense of community that is being created daily. They still need our help. The families and the neighborhoods still need our help. Do what you can, please share. Every little bit helps. Jeio Prosecco graced their glasses. Follow Ali on Instagram @alirand Listen to her on another podcast about her efforts. https://www.stlmag.com/podcasts/house-of-lou/episode-22/ Thank you for listening and subscribing to Cliterally Speaking the Podcast. Visit our website: www.cliterallyspeakingpodcast.com Facebook: @cspeakpodcast Instagram: @cliterallyspeakingthepodcast Watch our YouTube channel (Cliterally Speaking the Podcast) for all the behind-the-scenes discussions during our recording sessions. Our Patreon site is up - visit it here - http://bit.ly/32uOnVT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Good Humans
  7. 10/24/2025

    Aging Honestly

    Hi All! Emily and Michelle were enjoying a Saturday afternoon of wine tasting and catching up when, after one bottle of champagne, they were inspired to open another and record an episode. This is that episode! They talk art. They talk about connection. They talk about the changes in their lives since the last episode. Emily shares how much the loss of her dear Iggy Pup impacted her and how she has worked through her grief and recreated her four-legged family, growing it to THREE!!! Michelle revealed a new project she has been working on, Girlfriend Medicine, which will premiere in March of 2026. The delicious second bottle they are drinking is Champagne Godmé Sabine - Blanc de Blanc. They talk about Emily's upcoming 'big birthday' and how much our perspectives change as we get older. They mourn the loss of Diane Keaton. They talk about reshaping feminism. They talk about how we have been conditioned to assign value to our lives and ourselves. They laugh about reaching the age when "no one wants you." They muse on how to increase the frequency of good sex over bad sex. They laugh and celebrate all that is wonderful about being together and how much they appreciate the opportunity to share with you, their dedicated listeners. Thank you for listening and subscribing to Cliterally Speaking the Podcast. Visit our website: www.cliterallyspeakingpodcast.com Facebook: @cspeakpodcast Instagram: @cliterallyspeakingthepodcast Twitter: @cliterallyspea1 Please call our comment line: 812-727-0794 Watch our youtube channel (Cliterally Speaking the Podcast) for all the behind the scenes discussions during our recording sessions. Our Patreon site is up - visit it here - http://bit.ly/32uOnVT Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    Aging Honestly

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Honest, long-form conversations among girlfriends over a notable bottle of wine. Real, topical, unafraid, empowering, silly to serious. Each episode includes an honest review of the bottle of wine Emily and Michelle are drinking. You hear what they REALLY think about it! Cliterally Speaking the Podcast.. .. we're so glad you found us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.