Inside The Vatican

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Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.

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What’s on Pope Leo’s desk this fall

In this week’s episode of “Inside the Vatican,” Gerry and Colleen take the opportunity of Pope Leo’s 71st birthday on Monday, Sept. 14, to look back at what he has accomplished thus far in his papacy and what major items remain on his desk for the fall, including trips to France and Latin America, a series of high-profile appointments and the ongoing trials of Marko Rupnik and Angelo Becciu. The hosts also announce the launch of the newest America newsletter, Vatican Notebook! Subscribe here. Chapters: 0:00 Intro 3:21 Pope Leo celebrates his 71st birthday 5:50 A review of Pope Leo's first year 10:01 Pope Leo's effect on geopolitics 13:53 Pope Leo assembles a diverse new team 21:50 Leo's focus on peace, poverty and A.I. 28:10 Pope Leo is in no rush 29:10 The pope's preferences for bishops 35:11 Plans for filling bishop vacancies 37:03 Marko Rupnik trial updates 40:53 A new attitude on Vatican finances 44:30 Outro Links: How do popes celebrate their birthdays? Pizza, parties and puppies (from 2025) Is Pope Leo ‘Americanizing’ Vatican fundraising? Pope Leo: Catholics cannot be ‘unengaged spectators’ amid ‘injustice, discrimination and violence’ Pope Leo’s visit to France likely to attract a million people Peruvian city to unveil world’s tallest statue of Pope Leo for trip to South America A long-awaited reckoning: A timeline of the Father Marko Rupnik case Subscribe to Vatican Notebook Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle Support Inside the Vatican by becoming a subscriber to America Magazine! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 3

Pope Leo's message for the United States' 250th anniversary

Pope Leo today received the National Constitution Center’s liberty medal and gave an acceptance speech via livestream from the Vatican. Colleen Dulle recaps his message. Links from the show: Read: Pope Leo’s message to the United States on its 250th anniversary Subscribe to America Magazine (use promo code VATICAN for $10 off an annual digital subscription) Fill out our listener survey! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 3

Vatican excommunicates SSPX bishops, priests and others

Today, July 2, in response to the SSPX’s illicit ordinations of bishops, the Vatican announced that not only were the bishops involved in the ordination automatically excommunicated and in schism, but that any clergy of SSPX or lay members who “adhere” to the schism are also to be considered excommunicated. Links from the show: The Vatican and SSPX controversy, explained Vatican declares excommunicated SSPX bishops, warns priests and lay faithful of schism Analysis: SSPX excommunications show what Pope Leo means by church ‘unity’ Subscribe to America Magazine Fill out our listener survey! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 26

‘I doubt he will be diplomatic’: What Leo may say to the U.S. July 3

On this season finale of “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen and Gerry discuss the hectic weeks before Pope Leo’s summer vacation. First they recap the pope’s trip to Pavia to visit the remains of St. Augustine and the home of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, his speech to the World Food Program and the Vatican’s denial of the German bishops’ request to allow lay people to preach homilies. They also look ahead to this week’s consistory of cardinals, the illicit ordinations planned by SSPX, the pope’s address to Americans on July 3 and his trip to Lampedusa July 4, along with how Leo plans to spend his summer vacation. In this episode, Gerry also breaks the news of how many days Pope Leo will spend in Argentina, Peru and Uruguay this fall. 0:00 Intro 1:17 Pope Leo’s visit to Pavia and Cabrini’s hometown 4:52 Breaking News - Pope Leo’s agenda for Latin America 5:44 Pope Leo’s visit to the World Food Program 10:50 Vatican says no to lay homilies during Mass 11:35 Meeting of continental synod leaders at Vatican 16:38 Consistory of cardinals on war, AI and the synod 23:49 Cardinals could discuss SSPX at consistory 28:44 Pope Leo’s address to Americans July 3 34:06 Pope Leo’s July 4 visit to Lampedusa 34:53 What we know about Pope Leo’s summer plans 39:22 Please fill out our listener survey! Links: Pope Leo XIV exalts first American saint Cabrini as a model for Christians for her care of migrants Pope Leo: War is ‘fed more easily’ than the hungry Vatican to German bishops: No lay people preaching homilies at Mass SSPX stands firm against Vatican II in open letter to Pope Leo Extraordinary consistory signals Pope Leo’s push to work with cardinals on global challenges Fill out our Listener Survey! Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle Support Inside the Vatican by becoming a subscriber to America Magazine! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 19

‘Like I’ve rarely seen him’: Pope Leo’s visit to Spain

Pope Leo visited Spain from June 6-12, a visit that drew record-breaking crowds. This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Gerard O’Connell recaps for Colleen Dulle the highlights from the pope’s three stops: Madrid, Barcelona and the Canary Islands. On the last day, Gerry reports, Leo spoke out against those who take advantage of migrants “like I’ve rarely seen him,” shouting, “Stop! Repent!” After this episode was recorded, Pope Leo spoke to journalists outside Castel Gandolfo, saying “Thank God” for the U.S.-Iran memorandum of understanding and commenting on the upcoming illicit ordinations of bishops for the Society of St. Pius X. Regarding the latter, he said, ““If they make that choice, I am sorry, but we must move forward.” Interview: Madrid’s Cardinal Cobo says Pope Leo’s visit to Spain ‘is bringing out the best in people’ In Spain, Pope Leo denounces polarization and hails commitment to multilateralism More than one million attend Pope Leo’s Mass and procession in the heart of Madrid Pope Leo defends the unborn and migrants in historic speech to Spanish parliament Pope Leo meets with 6 clergy abuse survivors in Spain Pope Leo blesses 21 ambulances that an Argentine nun is taking to Ukraine Pope Leo tackles depression, domestic violence and the ‘cult of self-image’ in dialogue with young people Pope Leo visits famed Spanish monastery, entrusting his ministry to the Virgin of Montserrat Pope Leo XIV honors Antoni Gaudí and blesses the Sagrada Familia’s final tower ‘Human dignity has no passport’: Pope Leo visits Gran Canaria Pope Leo ends visit to Spain with a call to repent Pope Leo speaks out on SSPX ordinations and U.S.-Iran deal Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle Support Inside the Vatican by becoming a subscriber to America Magazine! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 11

Anna Rowlands on the ‘Magnifica Humanitas’ debates

Pope Leo’s encyclical ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ published May 25, has sparked debates in the worlds of technology and theology while galvanizing online creators opposed to artificial intelligence. Anna Rowlands, a theologian and co-presenter of the text with Pope Leo, joins Colleen Dulle to parse the encyclical’s reception, its contributions to Catholic teaching, and whether workers can use the encyclical to justify religious exemptions to using A.I. Links: Pope Leo’s trip to Spain: Background on Sagrada Familia, migrant advocacy and a changing Catholic landscape More than one million attend Pope Leo’s Mass and procession in the heart of Madrid Pope Leo meets with 6 clergy abuse survivors in Spain Pope Leo meets Bad Bunny in Madrid A.I. is the headline for ‘Magnifica Humanitas,’ but Catholic social teaching is its spine Why ‘Magnifica Humanitas’ is Pope Leo’s most important action on synodality yet Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle Support Inside the Vatican by becoming a subscriber to America Magazine! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jun 5

EWTN president named head of Vatican communications

This week on “Inside the Vatican,” Colleen Dulle and Gerard O’Connell discuss EWTN News President and COO Montserrat “Montse” Alvarado as prefect of the Vatican’s dicastery for communications. They unpack some of the challenges currently facing the dicastery and analyze the appointment in light of the Vatican’s previously strained relationship with EWTN. In the second half of the show, Gerry gives a preview of Pope Leo’s trip to Spain next week. 0:00 Intro 0:48 The dicastery for communications’ challenges 3:32 Montse Alvarado’s appointment and experience 6:38 First lay woman to head a Vatican dicastery 11:08 Significance of an American as head of communications 13:49 Alvarado steered EWTN away from conflict with Francis 17:19 Pope Leo’s vision for communications 21:38 Pope Leo to address Spanish parliament in Madrid 24:29 Pope Leo’s visit to the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona 26:20 Pope Leo to highlight migration in Canary Islands 28:04 Other possible events for pope’s Spain trip 31:34 Outro and credits Links: Pope Leo appoints president of EWTN News as head of Vatican communications Pope Francis responds to attacks from EWTN, other church critics: ‘They are the work of the devil.’ Explainer: The story behind Pope Francis’ beef with EWTN Pope Leo’s trip to Spain: Background on Sagrada Familia, migrant advocacy and a changing Catholic landscape Bad Bunny wants to meet Pope Leo XIV. In Madrid, a crossover event is in the works. Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle Support Inside the Vatican by becoming a subscriber to America Magazine! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
May 28

Pope Leo's A.I. encyclical: Top takeaways from “Magnifica Humanitas”

This week on a special “Inside the Vatican” roundtable, a discussion of “Magnifica Humanitas,” Pope Leo’s groundbreaking first encyclical on protecting the human person in the age of artificial intelligence. Host Colleen Dulle sits down with her co-host and senior Vatican correspondent, Gerard O’Connell, as well as America’s president and editor in chief, Sam Sawyer, S.J. They discuss the document’s key takeaways, how it is being received in Silicon Valley, Pope Leo’s challenge for every Catholic in the A.I. age and much more. Links: Read “Magnifica Humanitas” Pope Leo’s first encyclical tackles A.I., power and human dignity Pope Leo XIV makes historic apology for the Catholic Church’s role in legitimizing slavery Why Pope Leo’s new encyclical quotes Gandalf: Literary images of hope and faith in ‘Magnifica Humanitas’ A capitalist (priest) reads ‘Magnifica Humanitas’ Follow Gerry on X: @gerryorome Follow Colleen on Instagram: @colleendulle Support Inside the Vatican by becoming a subscriber to America Magazine! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Leo

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Ginagina Smith

Great podcast on Pope Leo: thanks
Excellent insight and engaging

11/13/2025

Cocogiggl35

This podcast is really educating me - I only ever heard the headlines about the Vatican and read articles from major news sources. This is giving a much needed perspective - a view from inside- hence the title... They aren't trying to present all viewpoints but are thoughtfully reflecting on the perspectives from Gerry’s experiences and Colleen’s wise questions. Love it and look forward to every episode. Thanks for the great work! I wish for more!
Women deacons

12/11/2025

kenhagen

Basically they keep asking the question until they get the answer they want.
Elise Allen interview

10/24/2025

Paul and Suzi D.

Excellent interview! My wife and I were very impressed with this segment. The questions asked and the responses of the author brought fresh insight to the personality of our new pope. What a blessings it is to have a podcast like this. Bravo and keep up the good work Colleen and Gerry!!!

Each week, Colleen Dulle goes behind the headlines of the biggest Vatican news stories with America’s Rome correspondent Gerard O’Connell. They'll break down complicated news stories that have a whole lot of history behind them in an understandable, engaging way. Colleen and Gerard will give you the inside scoop on what people inside the Vatican are thinking, saying—and planning.