"When guys have moral failure, I always ask them, 'What got you there?'" Helping pastors and ministry leaders avoid burnout is the topic of today's conversation as Phil Cooke https://philcooke.com sits down with Josh Turner, founder of the 10Ten Project. Josh has dedicated his life to helping Christian men flourish in their calling and in every area of life. If you're a pastor or ministry leader, the 10Ten project offers connection, coaching and care for spiritual, emotional and mental health as you serve the Lord. "We give pastors a safe place to say dangerous things — to be honest, open." —Josh Turner, Founder – 10Ten Project 👉 Watch now and find out if the 10Ten Project is for you! ⚡️Who do you know who needs to hear this episode? Please share this! Phil Cooke, Ph.D. — Strategic Advisor | Cultural Influence & Crisis Leadership Phil Cooke, Ph.D., is a strategic advisor to church, nonprofit, and media leaders navigating crisis, credibility, and cultural influence in a rapidly changing digital world. Founder of Cooke Media Group in Los Angeles and Nashville, he works with senior leadership teams globally to strengthen reputation and clarify mission. Author of "Church on Trial" and several other books on leadership and creativity, he has produced award winning media projects seen worldwide. 👉 Get weekly strategy and creative input delivered to your inbox: https://www.philcooke.com/subscribe/ ⚡️Join the conversation with Phil on social media: Twitter https://twitter.com/philcooke Facebook https://www.facebook.com/philcookepage/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/philcooke/ TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@philcookeofficial Find out about Cooke Media Group here: https://www.cookemediagroup.com 🔥 Masterclasses – Elevate your leadership and creative skills quickly! Church on Trial—Crisis Management with Phil Cooke https://philcooke.com/masterclass Ideas on a Deadline Masterclass with Phil Cooke https://philcooke.com/ideasonadeadline Subscribe to my YouTube Channel and Expand your Creative Leadership https://www.youtube.com/c/philcookeofficial?sub_confirmation=1 ⚡️ BOOK "Church on Trial – How to Protect Your Congregation, Mission, and Reputation During a Crisis" Get your copy here: https://philcooke.com/crisis **More About This Episode** No Burn Out! How Pastors Can Flourish in Ministry | Josh Turner, The 10Ten Project About Dr. Josh Turner With more than two decades of ministry experience, Josh has dedicated his life to helping leaders flourish — not just in their calling, but in every area of life. He holds a Doctorate of Ministry in Spiritual Formation from Southeastern University, where his work focused on leadership longevity, spiritual formation, and the practices that sustain healthy, impactful ministry over time. Throughout his career, Josh has served churches and ministries across the country, teaching, coaching, and walking alongside leaders as they navigate both the challenges and the calling of ministry. Josh is also the author of "Into the Storm," a book that weaves together personal story, biblical insight, and hope for those walking through life's hardest seasons. His passion is to see leaders stay grounded in their identity, connected in community, and deeply rooted in Christ — so they can lead with clarity, courage, and joy. He lives in Atlanta, Georgia, with his wife, Becca, and their two children, Ayden and Riley. Follow Josh: https://www.instagram.com/joshuaturner/ Find out more about The 10/Ten Project: https://www.10tenproject.com/ Get Josh's book, "Into the Storm: How to Face Down Any Crisis with Deep, Unshakeable Faith" here: https://amzn.to/3RMpSmC (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. Thank you for the support!) ⏰ Timecodes ⏰ 00:00 Meet Phil Cooke and this episode's topic: helping pastors avoid burnout and moral failure 02:35 Meet Josh Turner, founder of the 10Ten Project 05:08 A pastor's suicide and the beginnings of the 10Ten Project 09:46 The 10Ten Project's connection with Biola University and Notre Dame 16:28 Testimonies from Christian leaders and the impact of the 10Ten Project 22:50 How to connect with Josh Turner and the 10Ten Project 24:57 Josh's special needs daughter and his new book, "Into the Storm" 28:40 Phil shares about his book and masterclass for pastors and leaders: "Church on Trial"
