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Steffen Horst

Insider Secrets for Digitial Marketing Success

  1. 5d ago

    The B2B Marketing Framework That Replaces the Four Ps

    Most B2B teams still plan around the four Ps, but that B2B marketing framework explains what marketing does, not why a buyer picks one vendor over five others that sound the same. When buying committees grow and sales cycles stretch, more campaigns and more activity rarely close the gap. In this episode of Performance Delivered, host Steffen Horst is joined by Evan Goldberg, founder of Cyber CMO, a fractional marketing consultancy that helps cybersecurity and SaaS companies figure out what happens next when growth gets complicated. Evan argues that B2B growth depends on three things working together: a moat buyers can defend, a motivation that moves the purchase up the budget list, and memory that sticks with every member of the buying committee. In this episode, you'll learn:- Why heavy marketing activity can hide problems in your product, category, or go-to-market strategy- Why a real moat is rarely a feature, and what makes a product defensible- How external factors like regulation push a purchase into the next procurement cycle- The difference between being seen and being remembered by a buying committee- How the "actual customer profile" helps you map everyone who influences the deal- Why the framework matters more now that buyers research on ChatGPT and Claude Guest bio:Evan Goldberg has spent more than 20 years building marketing teams, transforming go-to-market strategies, creating categories, and launching products. He helped scale a technology marketing agency from startup through acquisition, has led marketing at companies including LastPass, ZeroFox, and BlackCloak, and has advised more than 60 cybersecurity and SaaS companies. Learn more about Symphonic Digital: https://symphonicdigital.com

  2. Aug 6

    Why Most Experimentation Programs Don't Drive Growth, with Shamir Duverseau

    Most marketing teams are testing. Headlines, creative, landing pages, CTAs the activity is there. So why do so few experimentation programs produce sustained, meaningful growth? According to Shamir Duverseau, Co-Founder and Managing Director at Smart Panda Labs, the problem usually isn't the volume of tests. It's the expectation behind them. Teams go into experimentation hoping to watch a conversion-rate line climb steadily up and to the right — and that graph is never coming. Experimentation is a decision-making framework, not a conversion dial. Its real output is better decisions across the organization over time. In this episode, Shamir joins host Steffen Horst to unpack what's actually happening inside a high-consideration buying journey — and why uncertainty, not price or competition, is the thing freezing your customers in place. In this episode, we cover: Why experimentation programs stall even when teams are running hundreds of testsThe decision hierarchy buyers move through: relevance, trust, motivation, orientationWhy uncertainty — not your competitor or your price point — is the real conversion killerOptimizing for clicks vs. optimizing for decisions, and why click quality changes everythingThe "traffic accident" approach to analysis: why one data source always tells the wrong storyWhere AI genuinely accelerates insight work — and why it makes experts better without making non-experts competentTrust, security, and stimulation: the three psychological barriers that stall high-ticket purchasesMining chat logs, support calls, and exit surveys for the objections analytics will never show youWhat a healthy experimentation culture looks like when marketing, product, and IT actually alignWhy a losing test can be worth more than a winning one — and how it saves real money"More than any competitor, more than any price point — uncertainty is the marketer's greatest enemy." — Shamir Duverseau

  3. Jul 30

    Building a Marketing Engine for Long Sales Cycles — with Caroline Ang Wright (AidKit)

    When your customers are governments, nonprofits, and humanitarian organizations, the traditional B2B playbook falls apart. Sales cycles stretch from six months to two years, buyers are complex, and trust is everything. In this episode, host Steffen Horst talks with Caroline Ang Wright, Vice President of Marketing at AidKit — a venture-backed public benefit corporation and certified B Corp that builds aid and benefits delivery infrastructure for governments and nonprofits at scale. Caroline has built marketing functions at early-stage startups working at the intersection of technology and public good. Before tech, she was a journalism fellow for the UN Environment Programme and a management consultant at Monitor Deloitte. She holds a BA in English literature from Brown University and master's degrees from the London School of Economics and the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine. In this conversation, Caroline shares how to build a high-touch marketing engine when you can't rely on capturing existing demand — and how she pairs relationship-building with scalable, data-driven systems. In this episode: Why the "capture demand" SaaS playbook breaks in B2G — and what to do insteadThe real length of a government sales cycle (and one deal that took 78 touches to close)How AidKit vets conferences: ICP, seniority, themes, speaking slots, and geographyWhy events are AidKit's strongest channel — and how digital works best as an amplifier, not a standaloneMeasuring ROI when deals take 18 months: leading indicators, MQLs, and pipeline createdThe anatomy of their best-ever webinar (250 live attendees, ~50 of 60 minutes average watch time) with former FEMA Administrator Deanne CriswellUsing AI honestly — the "PhD intern" that still needs taste, QA, and directionAdvice for small marketing teams deciding between high-touch events and scalable digital

  4. Jul 9

    AI in Marketing: Deciding Better, Not Just Producing More (with Ashley Bowlin)

    Most marketing teams are using AI to produce more: more content, more campaigns, more output. But the marketers pulling ahead are using it to decide better. In this episode, host Steffen Horst talks with Ashley Bowlin, a marketing and growth executive with nearly 20 years of experience helping SaaS and professional services companies grow through smarter go-to-market strategy, about what that shift actually looks like. Ashley specializes in the "glue functions" that connect brand, product, sales, and partnerships — and she's here to talk about using AI to think more clearly, not generate more noise. In this episode: [02:05] Why teams default to using AI for output instead of better decisions[04:38] Pressure-testing brand positioning and differentiation with AI[08:07] How AI search is changing buyer behavior — and why there are now 20-70 touchpoints in a B2B buying journey[11:40] Closing the gap between data insight and action[12:48] Using AI to align brand, product, sales, and partnerships without adding fragmentation[14:14] Why LLMs are "notorious for pleasing" — and how to train them not to[15:23] The "post-mortem" technique: asking AI to critique its own recommendation[16:49] Holding the line against content for content's sake[21:45] Where AI helps executive-level decisions — and where human judgment has to lead[24:58] Preserving the human element in an AI-driven marketing orgAbout Ashley Bowlin: Ashley Bowlin is a marketing and growth executive with nearly 20 years of experience across SaaS and professional services. She currently works at Top Echelon, a staffing and recruiting technology company with an ATS, CRM, and split-placement recruiter network. Connect with her on LinkedIn: Ashley Bowlin. Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe to Performance Delivered and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app: https://lovethepodcast.com/65692bc40e90de09ac168689

  5. Jan 15

    AI Personas Explained: The Secret to Better SaaS Messaging

    AI has made content creation faster than ever — but for most B2B SaaS teams, it has also made messaging more generic, not more effective. In this episode of Performance Delivered: Insider Secrets to Marketing Success, host Steffen Horst is joined by Christopher Silvestri, Founder of Conversion Alchemy, to break down how SaaS companies can use AI personas, synthetic research, and AI-assisted workflows without losing clarity, differentiation, or brand voice. They explore why most messaging problems are not copy problems, but clarity problems, and why AI should be treated as an input system rather than an output shortcut. The conversation covers how to ground AI personas in real customer research, how to structure messaging frameworks that scale across teams, and where human judgment remains essential. This episode is especially relevant for B2B SaaS marketers, founders, product leaders, and growth teams navigating the intersection of AI, positioning, and go-to-market strategy. Key Topics Covered: Why AI tools do not fix messaging problemsThe difference between prompting and context engineeringHow to build AI personas based on real customer dataCommon mistakes SaaS teams make with AI-generated copyWhat a real AI-assisted messaging system looks likeHow to scale brand-consistent messaging without losing nuanceThe future of synthetic research in SaaS go-to-market teams 🔗 Learn more about Christopher Silvestri: https://conversionalchemy.net 🔗 Learn more about Symphonic Digital: https://www.symphonicdigital.com Subscribe to Performance Delivered for weekly conversations on performance marketing, AI strategy, and scalable growth.

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