Two-age Sojourner

Michael Beck
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Informal and lighthearted, yet rigorous and unabashedly nerdy, conversation between Reformed Baptist pastors working from a distinctly Klinean theological framework. Our central conviction is that Scripture is best understood through the eschatological intrusion of the age to come into the present age, and we delight in exploring the implications of that vision for theology, the church, and the Christian life. Two-Age Sojourner is a conversation in biblical theology: covenant and kingdom, type and fulfilment, the church living as a pilgrim people in the overlap of this age and the age to come.

  1. 5d ago

    Meredith Kline, the two realms, and why we're back

    Awesome music by Jeremy Casella. Two Age Sojourner is back. After a long break, Mike, André and Nick pull three chairs back up to the kitchen table for an unhurried, unpolished conversation about theology, the kind you would overhear in a big dining hall. This relaunch episode is partly a "why are we doing this" reset and partly a map of where the show is going: a Reformed Baptist, Klinean conversation that does not pretend to have it all worked out. Along the way they talk about why Meredith Kline's reading of Scripture still matters (church and state, how to read the Bible, and how Kline unexpectedly prepared them to read the church fathers), the two-register cosmology of the visible and invisible realms, and why spirituality is booming on every side at once, from a revival of conservative Christianity to the rise of paganism, shamanism and DMT "other realm" experiences. They lay out the "study hall" idea, an in-person and online alternative to the conference and the struggling seminary pipeline, and make the case for honest conversation that concedes points to the other side instead of chasing the gotcha moment. It closes with Nick's upcoming Kennedy Creed conference, a look at the Christian nationalism debate, and a teaser for a future conversation on paganism as pre-Christian preparation, C.S. Lewis and Tolkien, and the retrieval questions around Islam and nationalism. HOSTS Michael Beck, Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand - https://www.gracenet.co.nz André Beck, Bethesda Baptist Church, Felixstowe, UK - https://www.bethesdafelixstowe.com Nick Clevely, Covenant Grace Baptist Church, Timaru, New Zealand - https://www.covenantgracebaptist.church CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 00:25 We're back 02:33 How podcasting changed 07:59 Why Kline still matters 10:32 Kline brings everyone to the table 14:12 Andre's PhD and the invisible realms 15:23 Spirituality is booming 17:51 The name: Two Age Sojourner 19:59 Upping the game (and YouTube) 23:40 The study hall idea 30:17 Greystone (and a He-Man detour) 32:29 The seminary pipeline problem 39:11 After truth, not winning 42:50 Nick's conference and Christian nationalism 48:02 Paganism, C.S. Lewis, and Islam (next time) Website: https://www.gracenet.co.nz Subscribe: [DRAFT: hosts to confirm the YouTube channel handle] #reformedtheology #meredithkline #christianpodcast

    Meredith Kline, the two realms, and why we're back

  2. 11/19/2025

    The Feast of Cover-Over

    Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. The article being discussed can be found here: https://meredithkline.com/files/articles/The-Feast-of-Cover-Over.pdf

  3. 10/24/2025

    Reformed Covenant Theology with Harrison Perkins

    Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts. Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church). André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace. You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music." For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. The book being discussed can be found here: https://www.amazon.com.au/Reformed-Covenant-Theology-Systematic-Introduction/dp/1683597338

  4. 09/05/2025

    Death, Leviathan, and Martyrs

    Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com. The article being discussed can be found here: https://meredithkline.com/klines-works/articles-and-essays/death-leviathan-and-martyrs-isaiah-24/

  5. 08/06/2025

    Images of the Spirit, Part 4

    Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

  6. 07/21/2025

    Images of the Spirit, Part 3

    Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

  7. 06/18/2025

    Images of the Spirit, Part 2

    Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

  8. 06/09/2025

    Images of the Spirit, Part 1

    Two-age Sojourner is hosted by Michael Beck, the pastor of Gracenet Community Church, Wellington, New Zealand (www.gracenet.co.nz). Each week (well, most weeks), Mike is joined on his pilgrimage by three co-hosts.  Nick Clevely is the pastor of Covenant Grace Baptist Church in Timaru, New Zealand (www.covenantgracebaptist.church).  André Beck (yes, he’s Mike’s brother) is pastor of Bethesda Baptist Church in Felixstowe, UK (www.bethesdafelixstowe.com). Music on this podcast was written by Jeremy Casella and performed by Indelible Grace.  You can listen to more from Indelible Grace and Jeremy Casella by searching on Spotify or Apple Music."   For more info, check out www.twoagesojourner.com.

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Informal and lighthearted, yet rigorous and unabashedly nerdy, conversation between Reformed Baptist pastors working from a distinctly Klinean theological framework. Our central conviction is that Scripture is best understood through the eschatological intrusion of the age to come into the present age, and we delight in exploring the implications of that vision for theology, the church, and the Christian life. Two-Age Sojourner is a conversation in biblical theology: covenant and kingdom, type and fulfilment, the church living as a pilgrim people in the overlap of this age and the age to come.

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  • Creator
    Michael Beck
  • Years Active
    2018 - 2026
  • Episodes
    450
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Michael Beck
  • Show Website
    Two-age Sojourner

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